Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Rob Lohman · November 16th, 2004, 04:46 AM

Lorinda: if you want serious MPEG2 quality you should look into
TMPGEnc or Canopus ProCoder, both are better than the coupled
Cinemacraft encoders that come with Vegas and Premiere Pro
(although it certainly is not bad in a good VBR mode!)

Rob Lohman · November 16th, 2004, 06:22 AM

Everything can be sliced, just place the "line" over the place to
slice and hit the 's' key on your keyboard. This splices everything
underneath the line (including ALL tracks with media). If you just
want to splice one event (media on a track) click on the event
first so that it is blue (selected) then move the line with the cursor
keys to the right place and hit the 's' key.

There are all sort of ways to solve your problem from cutting to
masks or keyframing.

Edward Troxel · November 16th, 2004, 08:25 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Andy Dufrain : Funny, i looked for the "slice" feature but i couldn't find it. -->>>

Search for "Split" instead.

Gary Kleiner · November 16th, 2004, 10:37 AM

>cAN'T find the "s" key <

Those buttons on your keyboard with the letters on them are also called keys (hence the name "keyboard").

The s is located in the middle-left area between a and d.

Gary

Lorinda Norton · November 16th, 2004, 11:09 AM

Rob: Serious MPEG2 quality...Yes, that's what I want!! I'll have a look at those others. Thank you.

And thanks to you, Edward, for always explaining things so well.

Simon Wyndham · November 16th, 2004, 11:16 AM

For ages I've been wanting a deartifact filter for Vegas to solve problems such as stair stepping in reds etc as well as other problems with DV footage.

I then stumbled upon a filter that for some reason I haven't noticed in Vegas 5 before! The Chroma Blur Filter. As per always when I discover such a thing I haven't got much in the way of footage on the hard drive that has any problem colours on it to try it out properly on!

Does anyone know how this filter differs from the deartifact filter in the AE Magic Bullet Suite, or the one from Digital Film Tools?

Tim Kay · November 16th, 2004, 01:26 PM

Gary, thanks for the literal interpetations of the meaning.

To the others, thanks i got it to work. My vegas calls it split.

This is a cool feature and i wanted to know other times this feature comes in handy, how others in this group have used it? Having this board room really makes vegas a) more fun b)more powerful then simple cuts!

Albert Rodgers · November 17th, 2004, 01:37 AM

Hi,
I was using the multicam feature in the Excal. Demo and was wondering if you could apply the multicam script to only a highlighted segment? The reason I asked this question is because I was editing a project and used the script on a previous segment and w/o deleting the markers, I prepared another part of the file for this script. Well, needless to say, when I ran the script again I had problems with the prior segment.

I also considered moving just that segment to a new .veg file, but after copying the highlighted segment over, I lost the markers. Is there anyway to copy higlighted markers and clips over to a new file?

Thank You

Rob Lohman · November 17th, 2004, 05:10 AM

I don't know if or how it differs, but I can tell you that it works.
I've tried it on some footage with red in it and it definitely
smoothed out the stair-stepping in the red colors!

Rob Lohman · November 17th, 2004, 05:23 AM

I mainly use it to cut clips to size (trimming) before I put them
back-to-back to create a movie <g>

Edward Troxel · November 17th, 2004, 08:43 AM

Multi-cam can be set to work in a small area of the timeline. In Excalibur 3 it is very easy, just check to option to only work in the selected area after selecting the small area in which you want it used. Manually you can set up a command marker and "end" marker but the option in Excalibur 3 makes that automatic.

Joris Beverloo · November 17th, 2004, 02:37 PM

I was using the search but I have not seen this problem there so I decided to make a new thread.
Today I was making a small clip and I noticed that was a little spot on my lens during filming, unfortunatly on top of the lens so it shows very clearly on the blue skies.
Well, I had good luck with tke cookei cutter and placing a small circle on top of that spot and making that the same color as the background.
I have captured 2 clips. I cut a scene to the right length from clip A and put it in the time line. There I applied the cookie cutter. Now when I cut a scene from clip B in the timeline I have no problem. But when I put a piece of clip A in the timeline it has this spot from the cookie cutter, but it does not show as an FX event in the timeline so there is no way I can remove it.
Strange thing is that when I look at the clip in the trimmer window, nothiongs shows, but as soon as I drop somethnig on the timeline from that clip, is has the cutter effect while I did not select it for that piece. What am I doing wrong?

Edward Troxel · November 17th, 2004, 03:12 PM

Sounds like you put the cookie cutter effect on the TRACK instead of that one EVENT. If it was applied to the track, everything on the track will be affected.

Joris Beverloo · November 17th, 2004, 03:21 PM

hmmm, when I put a scene from another capture on that same track, there is no effect on that scene, and it does not show any FX event on the track. But I will take a deeper look on your suggestion. Thanks so far

Joris Beverloo · November 17th, 2004, 03:25 PM

Thanks for the hint Edward, I just found it..guess what, I applied the effect to the whole clip. I could see the eventFX option when I right click on the clip in the media pool and there was the cookie cutter set as well, so I removed that and nos all is fine again :)
Might have been from fatigue working late last night that I was clicking and setting weird things, better go sleep earlier today lol

November 16th, 2004, 04:46 AM	#1426
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Lorinda: if you want serious MPEG2 quality you should look into TMPGEnc or Canopus ProCoder, both are better than the coupled Cinemacraft encoders that come with Vegas and Premiere Pro (although it certainly is not bad in a good VBR mode!) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 16th, 2004, 06:22 AM	#1427
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Everything can be sliced, just place the "line" over the place to slice and hit the 's' key on your keyboard. This splices everything underneath the line (including ALL tracks with media). If you just want to splice one event (media on a track) click on the event first so that it is blue (selected) then move the line with the cursor keys to the right place and hit the 's' key. There are all sort of ways to solve your problem from cutting to masks or keyframing. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 16th, 2004, 08:25 AM	#1428
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Re: cAN'T find the "s" key <<<-- Originally posted by Andy Dufrain : Funny, i looked for the "slice" feature but i couldn't find it. -->>> Search for "Split" instead. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 16th, 2004, 11:09 AM	#1430
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Rob: Serious MPEG2 quality...Yes, that's what I want!! I'll have a look at those others. Thank you. And thanks to you, Edward, for always explaining things so well. __________________ Lorinda

November 16th, 2004, 11:16 AM	#1431
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Doh! Sony Chroma Blur filter For ages I've been wanting a deartifact filter for Vegas to solve problems such as stair stepping in reds etc as well as other problems with DV footage. I then stumbled upon a filter that for some reason I haven't noticed in Vegas 5 before! The Chroma Blur Filter. As per always when I discover such a thing I haven't got much in the way of footage on the hard drive that has any problem colours on it to try it out properly on! Does anyone know how this filter differs from the deartifact filter in the AE Magic Bullet Suite, or the one from Digital Film Tools?

November 16th, 2004, 10:37 AM	#1429
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	>cAN'T find the "s" key < Those buttons on your keyboard with the letters on them are also called keys (hence the name "keyboard"). The s is located in the middle-left area between a and d. Gary

November 16th, 2004, 01:26 PM	#1432
Tim Kay Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF & LA Posts: 195	Gary, thanks for the literal interpetations of the meaning. To the others, thanks i got it to work. My vegas calls it split. This is a cool feature and i wanted to know other times this feature comes in handy, how others in this group have used it? Having this board room really makes vegas a) more fun b)more powerful then simple cuts! __________________ Event Production Services \| Video Production San Francisco

November 17th, 2004, 01:37 AM	#1433
Albert Rodgers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Posts: 87	Excalibur Question -Multicam Hi, I was using the multicam feature in the Excal. Demo and was wondering if you could apply the multicam script to only a highlighted segment? The reason I asked this question is because I was editing a project and used the script on a previous segment and w/o deleting the markers, I prepared another part of the file for this script. Well, needless to say, when I ran the script again I had problems with the prior segment. I also considered moving just that segment to a new .veg file, but after copying the highlighted segment over, I lost the markers. Is there anyway to copy higlighted markers and clips over to a new file? Thank You __________________ Jack-of-all-trades trying to master one (Videography) www.sdfvideo.com

November 17th, 2004, 05:10 AM	#1434
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I don't know if or how it differs, but I can tell you that it works. I've tried it on some footage with red in it and it definitely smoothed out the stair-stepping in the red colors! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 17th, 2004, 05:23 AM	#1435
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I mainly use it to cut clips to size (trimming) before I put them back-to-back to create a movie <g> __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 17th, 2004, 08:43 AM	#1436
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Multi-cam can be set to work in a small area of the timeline. In Excalibur 3 it is very easy, just check to option to only work in the selected area after selecting the small area in which you want it used. Manually you can set up a command marker and "end" marker but the option in Excalibur 3 makes that automatic. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 17th, 2004, 02:37 PM	#1437
Joris Beverloo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands Posts: 29	Problem with cookie cutter I was using the search but I have not seen this problem there so I decided to make a new thread. Today I was making a small clip and I noticed that was a little spot on my lens during filming, unfortunatly on top of the lens so it shows very clearly on the blue skies. Well, I had good luck with tke cookei cutter and placing a small circle on top of that spot and making that the same color as the background. I have captured 2 clips. I cut a scene to the right length from clip A and put it in the time line. There I applied the cookie cutter. Now when I cut a scene from clip B in the timeline I have no problem. But when I put a piece of clip A in the timeline it has this spot from the cookie cutter, but it does not show as an FX event in the timeline so there is no way I can remove it. Strange thing is that when I look at the clip in the trimmer window, nothiongs shows, but as soon as I drop somethnig on the timeline from that clip, is has the cutter effect while I did not select it for that piece. What am I doing wrong?

November 17th, 2004, 03:12 PM	#1438
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Sounds like you put the cookie cutter effect on the TRACK instead of that one EVENT. If it was applied to the track, everything on the track will be affected. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 17th, 2004, 03:21 PM	#1439
Joris Beverloo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands Posts: 29	hmmm, when I put a scene from another capture on that same track, there is no effect on that scene, and it does not show any FX event on the track. But I will take a deeper look on your suggestion. Thanks so far

November 17th, 2004, 03:25 PM	#1440
Joris Beverloo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands Posts: 29	Thanks for the hint Edward, I just found it..guess what, I applied the effect to the whole clip. I could see the eventFX option when I right click on the clip in the media pool and there was the cookie cutter set as well, so I removed that and nos all is fine again :) Might have been from fatigue working late last night that I was clicking and setting weird things, better go sleep earlier today lol