Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Dave Largent · July 12th, 2004, 10:43 AM

Occasionally this will happen. The audio track will be
missing after the render, and the only way I can get
Vegas to render audio is to re-boot the system.
Anyone else ever notice this? Seems to occur more
as Vegas has been running for a while without a re-boot.

Edward Troxel · July 12th, 2004, 10:58 AM

I have not noticed this. What format were you rendering to? What preset did you use? Did you go into custom and change the preset?

Rob Lohman · July 12th, 2004, 11:12 AM

And which EXACT (including a, b, etc.) version of Vegas are you using?

Andre Andreev · July 12th, 2004, 11:50 AM

Does Scenalyzer capture the DVX100 24p, 24p Advanced and 30p modes correctly? (personal experience please).

I checked their website but could not find any info on this.

Also, in my experience with the Vegas caprure, the cause for dropped frames has always (4 out of 4 times) fragmented hard drive and / or running process in the background.

-- Andre

Michael Best · July 12th, 2004, 12:35 PM

Kevin, did you ever get this solved? I know exactly what you're talking about and find it's frustrating. There is an obvious jump in
and jump out, it also depends of the type of effect and what you're resolving to or from. Did you figure anything out? I can't
imagine repeating multiple layers at different levels.

Dave Largent · July 12th, 2004, 12:39 PM

Version 4d, Rob. Was d the last 4 version?
No change to custom presets, Edward, just standard
DV AVI. Happens one out of ten to twenty renders.
Actually, the audio track is not *missing*, it will be there
but with just no audio. Maybe I need to re-install the
program. Just wondering if anyone else had this.

Edward Troxel · July 12th, 2004, 12:42 PM

4.0e was the last "4" version.

I've not seen this happen unless I had muted my audio.

Kevin Kimmell · July 12th, 2004, 12:50 PM

Well... making sure that the effect is ON before you fade into that video clip and then making sure that you fade back to the non-effect laden clip BEFORE the effect is finished seems to be the easiest way. The more gradual your fades, the smoother it will look.

Now if you are using effects on both (or multiple) video streams then you would need to make a copy of at least one (or have at least one with no effect) so that you can fade back into a "normal" scene before the effects end.

You could also layer the clip endings so that the effects end on one clip first, then you fade to it from the still effected clip and then once your completely onto the non-effected clip you're back in "normal" mode.

Hope this helps,
Kevin

Rob Lohman · July 12th, 2004, 01:57 PM

What operating system are you running this on, Dave?

Josh Bass · July 12th, 2004, 02:53 PM

I'm working with Vegas 4.0 e.

A few questions:

Are there any FREE additional FX plugins available for download somewhere? I know about the Satish plug-ins, but all he's got are 3d plugin pac, Wax, morph, and maybe a few others?

Also, I'm trying to do some things with titles, like making each letter a different color. . .no luck. When I try to color a single letter by selecting it, then going to "properties" and picking a color, it colors the whole title. . .even if I composite enough copies of the title to color each one differently and have only one letter of each copy show up in the final comp, I still can't figure out a way to do this. Isn't there some relatively simple way to accomplish this?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 12th, 2004, 03:27 PM

on the new Sound Forge book.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...3A3920%3A105315

Thought you guys might like to know.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 12th, 2004, 03:31 PM

http://www.panopticum.com has some fun plugs, albeit very slow.
In terms of freebies on the video side, there isn't much.

To get the letters to be each different colors, you'll need to insert a new track for each color. The way I do this is to create the title, then duplicate it to separate tracks, then cut out, or erase the letters I don't want, leaving spaces where they were. Sometimes, depending on the font set, I need to use Track Motion to exactly place a letter. By keeping the full, original title in there, you can see exactly how letters overlay.

Dave Largent · July 12th, 2004, 04:30 PM

Yep, it's just like Edward said: the same as if the audio
were muted, but it's not. If I close down Vegas and re-boot,
and then bring Vegas up again, with no changes, the
audio will render. But once it starts not rendering, it
won't render again till I re-boot.
The operating system is Windows XP Home.

David Jasany · July 12th, 2004, 06:16 PM

DSE, Good to see you hanging out here a bit.

Paul Jason · July 12th, 2004, 06:56 PM

Went to look at the link and I got this message:

Sorry! The page you're looking for is either temporarily unavailable or no longer exists.

July 12th, 2004, 10:43 AM	#121
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Audio Doesn't Render Occasionally this will happen. The audio track will be missing after the render, and the only way I can get Vegas to render audio is to re-boot the system. Anyone else ever notice this? Seems to occur more as Vegas has been running for a while without a re-boot.

July 12th, 2004, 11:12 AM	#123
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	And which EXACT (including a, b, etc.) version of Vegas are you using? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 12th, 2004, 11:50 AM	#124
Andre Andreev Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 98	24p? 24p adv.? Does Scenalyzer capture the DVX100 24p, 24p Advanced and 30p modes correctly? (personal experience please). I checked their website but could not find any info on this. Also, in my experience with the Vegas caprure, the cause for dropped frames has always (4 out of 4 times) fragmented hard drive and / or running process in the background. -- Andre

July 12th, 2004, 01:57 PM	#129
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	What operating system are you running this on, Dave? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 12th, 2004, 02:53 PM	#130
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Some basic vegas quesitons. I'm working with Vegas 4.0 e. A few questions: Are there any FREE additional FX plugins available for download somewhere? I know about the Satish plug-ins, but all he's got are 3d plugin pac, Wax, morph, and maybe a few others? Also, I'm trying to do some things with titles, like making each letter a different color. . .no luck. When I try to color a single letter by selecting it, then going to "properties" and picking a color, it colors the whole title. . .even if I composite enough copies of the title to color each one differently and have only one letter of each copy show up in the final comp, I still can't figure out a way to do this. Isn't there some relatively simple way to accomplish this? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

July 12th, 2004, 10:58 AM	#122
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I have not noticed this. What format were you rendering to? What preset did you use? Did you go into custom and change the preset?

July 12th, 2004, 12:35 PM	#125
Michael Best Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oceanside Harbor, CA Posts: 446	Kevin, did you ever get this solved? I know exactly what you're talking about and find it's frustrating. There is an obvious jump in and jump out, it also depends of the type of effect and what you're resolving to or from. Did you figure anything out? I can't imagine repeating multiple layers at different levels.

July 12th, 2004, 12:39 PM	#126
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Version 4d, Rob. Was d the last 4 version? No change to custom presets, Edward, just standard DV AVI. Happens one out of ten to twenty renders. Actually, the audio track is not missing, it will be there but with just no audio. Maybe I need to re-install the program. Just wondering if anyone else had this.

July 12th, 2004, 12:42 PM	#127
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	4.0e was the last "4" version. I've not seen this happen unless I had muted my audio.

July 12th, 2004, 12:50 PM	#128
Kevin Kimmell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 209	Well... making sure that the effect is ON before you fade into that video clip and then making sure that you fade back to the non-effect laden clip BEFORE the effect is finished seems to be the easiest way. The more gradual your fades, the smoother it will look. Now if you are using effects on both (or multiple) video streams then you would need to make a copy of at least one (or have at least one with no effect) so that you can fade back into a "normal" scene before the effects end. You could also layer the clip endings so that the effects end on one clip first, then you fade to it from the still effected clip and then once your completely onto the non-effected clip you're back in "normal" mode. Hope this helps, Kevin

July 12th, 2004, 03:27 PM	#131
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Walmart has a great price... on the new Sound Forge book. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...3A3920%3A105315 Thought you guys might like to know. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

July 12th, 2004, 03:31 PM	#132
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	http://www.panopticum.com has some fun plugs, albeit very slow. In terms of freebies on the video side, there isn't much. To get the letters to be each different colors, you'll need to insert a new track for each color. The way I do this is to create the title, then duplicate it to separate tracks, then cut out, or erase the letters I don't want, leaving spaces where they were. Sometimes, depending on the font set, I need to use Track Motion to exactly place a letter. By keeping the full, original title in there, you can see exactly how letters overlay. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

July 12th, 2004, 04:30 PM	#133
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Yep, it's just like Edward said: the same as if the audio were muted, but it's not. If I close down Vegas and re-boot, and then bring Vegas up again, with no changes, the audio will render. But once it starts not rendering, it won't render again till I re-boot. The operating system is Windows XP Home.

July 12th, 2004, 06:16 PM	#134
David Jasany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 313	DSE, Good to see you hanging out here a bit.

July 12th, 2004, 06:56 PM	#135
Paul Jason Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 163	Went to look at the link and I got this message: Sorry! The page you're looking for is either temporarily unavailable or no longer exists.