Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Mike Moncrief · October 31st, 2004, 10:03 AM

Hi all,

I am going to be putting together a looping video to play in a high end nightclub/lounge, that has a bunch of Plasma screens.. It will have logos, drink specials, special events, private party announcements.. etc.. And I want to make it on a DVD (I am using DVD Architect 2 of course) but I know i am limited in time on the DVD.. I do not want the employees to have to run in the back to the DVD player every hour or even 2 hours to restart the promo dvd.. Of course I have thought of using a VHS tape (6 hours) but was hoping to use the DVD to keep the video quality high..

Any ideas on how to get a long loop ??

Thanks in advance..
mike m.

Don Bloom · October 31st, 2004, 10:28 AM

This sounds like you're going to run a single play movie with no menu so set your "end action" to 'most recent menu' and it should loop until you stop it.

Hope that's what you're looking for.

Don B

Peter Sieben · October 31st, 2004, 11:35 AM

Well guys, DTS encoding isn't that far away. Check the link down below, they offer 2 DTS software encoders. The most expensive one of the two is 499 dollar, which I consider as a prosumer price. Just render 6 WAV tracks from your 5.1 mix...
http://www.minnetonkaaudio.com/products/products.html

I'm not sure how to build a dvd with a DTS audiotrack, can you use DVD-A for that purpose?

Peter

Rob Lohman · October 31st, 2004, 12:42 PM

The problem usually seems to be authoring (not encoding). DVDA
does not support dts tracks at this moment.

Phillip Jackson · October 31st, 2004, 03:46 PM

Thanks for all your help.

Its not too important at the moment just would be cool to have a dts soundtrack on the dvd for my next short film,
guess i'll just have to keep the dts files and wait till i get some software that will allow me to use it, or just stick it on as a dts wav as i tried and hope some dts decoders will decode it.

which is what i hoped would work cause like with some ac3 and dts wav files i downloaded once when i played on the computer they were just the noise, but when put in my dvd player they were decoded properly,

but my dts wav files i make just play the noise on both my computer and dvd player.

Philippe Gosselin · October 31st, 2004, 03:56 PM

Hi all,

Quick question here , is it possible to go beyond the 300% limit for the velocity enveloppe , 300% is wayyyy too slow for what I want.

thx guys

Phil

Edward Troxel · October 31st, 2004, 03:59 PM

Setting the end action to itself should be all that is necessary. Note that if you already have it on DVD, most DVD players also have the ability to repeat a track as well.

To make things 100% simple on the end user (i.e. stick it in and walk away), I would do as Don suggested - Single Move project and set the end action to itself.

Mike Moncrief · October 31st, 2004, 04:34 PM

Hello,

OK, cool.. Did not know you could set the end action to itself.. And I was not even sure you could set an end action in a non-menu based DVD..

Thanks guys..

Mike M.

Dan Crandall · October 31st, 2004, 04:47 PM

The velocity envelope will give you 300% and a "CNTRL+Drag of the clip will give you an additional 400% for a total of 1200% (or 12x)

Edward Troxel · October 31st, 2004, 08:10 PM

If you need more than 12x, you have a couple of options:

1) Render out at 12x, put the new file on the timline, and then speed that up again (up to 12x). Repeat as needed.

2) Use the velocity tool in Veggie Toolkit. (There's a link to it at the link under my name)

Philippe Gosselin · October 31st, 2004, 08:28 PM

Thanks guys ,

Edward, I actually thought about that but after posting my question HIHIHIHI :)

Greatly appreciated guys

Phil

Jonathan Gentry · November 1st, 2004, 12:02 PM

I have recorded my video in 30p using a DVX100a. I want to perserve 30p from recording to final production as a DVD. Are there any specific things to keep in mind in rendering or burning the DVD using Vegas 5 + DVD software or can I run defaults accross the board?

Thanks,

-Jonathan Gentry

Rob Lohman · November 2nd, 2004, 03:20 AM

Yes, make sure that everything is set to 29.97 fps PROGRESSIVE,
that INCLUDES your project settings AND your export settings
(which default to interlaced!!). Also make sure your authoring
programs has everything set to progressive.

Bob Safay · November 2nd, 2004, 05:05 AM

I wanted to send my project to a dv tape so I can show it on vhs. So, I went into Tools, Print video to dv tape. All went well except, I now have 52 files that say "Vegas prerendered video file. 0001 (through 52). Question, can I delete these files without deleteing up my project? bob

Mark McCarthy · November 2nd, 2004, 06:09 AM

hello all
I can render MPEG 2's no problem but when I try to render MPEG1's, it just freezes a little way through.

I believe this is a common problem with VEGAS 5.

Any ideas? For the meantime I might just have to render them in Vegas 4! Not ideal though is it...

AND, what's news in version 5.2 b(?!)

love the program though. runs a treat on a laptop

thanks..Mark

October 31st, 2004, 10:03 AM	#1321
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	looping video ideas? Hi all, I am going to be putting together a looping video to play in a high end nightclub/lounge, that has a bunch of Plasma screens.. It will have logos, drink specials, special events, private party announcements.. etc.. And I want to make it on a DVD (I am using DVD Architect 2 of course) but I know i am limited in time on the DVD.. I do not want the employees to have to run in the back to the DVD player every hour or even 2 hours to restart the promo dvd.. Of course I have thought of using a VHS tape (6 hours) but was hoping to use the DVD to keep the video quality high.. Any ideas on how to get a long loop ?? Thanks in advance.. mike m. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

October 31st, 2004, 11:35 AM	#1323
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	Well guys, DTS encoding isn't that far away. Check the link down below, they offer 2 DTS software encoders. The most expensive one of the two is 499 dollar, which I consider as a prosumer price. Just render 6 WAV tracks from your 5.1 mix... http://www.minnetonkaaudio.com/products/products.html I'm not sure how to build a dvd with a DTS audiotrack, can you use DVD-A for that purpose? Peter __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

October 31st, 2004, 12:42 PM	#1324
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	The problem usually seems to be authoring (not encoding). DVDA does not support dts tracks at this moment. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 31st, 2004, 03:56 PM	#1326
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	pushing the velocity enveloppe Hi all, Quick question here , is it possible to go beyond the 300% limit for the velocity enveloppe , 300% is wayyyy too slow for what I want. thx guys Phil

October 31st, 2004, 03:59 PM	#1327
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Setting the end action to itself should be all that is necessary. Note that if you already have it on DVD, most DVD players also have the ability to repeat a track as well. To make things 100% simple on the end user (i.e. stick it in and walk away), I would do as Don suggested - Single Move project and set the end action to itself. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 31st, 2004, 10:28 AM	#1322
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	This sounds like you're going to run a single play movie with no menu so set your "end action" to 'most recent menu' and it should loop until you stop it. Hope that's what you're looking for. Don B

October 31st, 2004, 03:46 PM	#1325
Phillip Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 56	Thanks for all your help. Its not too important at the moment just would be cool to have a dts soundtrack on the dvd for my next short film, guess i'll just have to keep the dts files and wait till i get some software that will allow me to use it, or just stick it on as a dts wav as i tried and hope some dts decoders will decode it. which is what i hoped would work cause like with some ac3 and dts wav files i downloaded once when i played on the computer they were just the noise, but when put in my dvd player they were decoded properly, but my dts wav files i make just play the noise on both my computer and dvd player.

October 31st, 2004, 04:34 PM	#1328
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, OK, cool.. Did not know you could set the end action to itself.. And I was not even sure you could set an end action in a non-menu based DVD.. Thanks guys.. Mike M. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

October 31st, 2004, 04:47 PM	#1329
Dan Crandall New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 13	The velocity envelope will give you 300% and a "CNTRL+Drag of the clip will give you an additional 400% for a total of 1200% (or 12x) __________________ -Dan

October 31st, 2004, 08:10 PM	#1330
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you need more than 12x, you have a couple of options: 1) Render out at 12x, put the new file on the timline, and then speed that up again (up to 12x). Repeat as needed. 2) Use the velocity tool in Veggie Toolkit. (There's a link to it at the link under my name) __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 31st, 2004, 08:28 PM	#1331
Philippe Gosselin Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal , Canada Posts: 197	Thanks guys , Edward, I actually thought about that but after posting my question HIHIHIHI :) Greatly appreciated guys Phil

November 1st, 2004, 12:02 PM	#1332
Jonathan Gentry Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 183	30p I have recorded my video in 30p using a DVX100a. I want to perserve 30p from recording to final production as a DVD. Are there any specific things to keep in mind in rendering or burning the DVD using Vegas 5 + DVD software or can I run defaults accross the board? Thanks, -Jonathan Gentry

November 2nd, 2004, 03:20 AM	#1333
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Yes, make sure that everything is set to 29.97 fps PROGRESSIVE, that INCLUDES your project settings AND your export settings (which default to interlaced!!). Also make sure your authoring programs has everything set to progressive. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 2nd, 2004, 05:05 AM	#1334
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Printing to dv tape I wanted to send my project to a dv tape so I can show it on vhs. So, I went into Tools, Print video to dv tape. All went well except, I now have 52 files that say "Vegas prerendered video file. 0001 (through 52). Question, can I delete these files without deleteing up my project? bob

November 2nd, 2004, 06:09 AM	#1335
Mark McCarthy Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Westcliff-On-Sea, Essex, England Posts: 154	Vegas 5 won't render MPEG 1's hello all I can render MPEG 2's no problem but when I try to render MPEG1's, it just freezes a little way through. I believe this is a common problem with VEGAS 5. Any ideas? For the meantime I might just have to render them in Vegas 4! Not ideal though is it... AND, what's news in version 5.2 b(?!) love the program though. runs a treat on a laptop thanks..Mark