Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Edward Troxel · October 29th, 2004, 03:05 PM

First of all, you don't have to split (like you did in Premiere).

If you WANT to split, simply split on the proper frame, add a velocity envelope to the clip on the right, right-click the default first node, choose "Set To..." and type in 0.

If you DON'T want to split, just add a velocity envelope to the clip, go to where you want the speed to stop, add a new node there set at 100%, move right 1 frame and add a new node there, right-click it, choose "Set To..." and type in 0.

You might want to click on the link under my name and check out the newsletters. I have velocity changes well covered in one of the issues.

Vance Osborne · October 29th, 2004, 03:21 PM

Thank you Edward...I've just realized that Vegas approaches this totally different the Premiere...
And I just went to your site. Holy cow! Lots of info... thank you :)

Happy halloween guys!

Peter Jefferson · October 29th, 2004, 08:59 PM

one thing which hasnt been mentioned is the deinterlacing of the still frame..

vegas has a tendency to be a lil too accurate with the fields, and sometimes has the tendency to "flicker" that still image..
It could just be me, with my settings, but i havent set anything to deinterlace.

what i do, is export the precise frame i need... then reimport it as an image file.
When you export, u just make sure that the frame itself isnt a blended field, else youll get flickering due to the high resolution. even selecting the option to reduce the interlace flickering doesnt do all that much to assist.

other times i use the velocity method, one i hit zero, i then drag the clip fo ras long as i need the still to go for.

Another trick which doing that is to use teh pan/crop tool to add motion to the still... makes for a nice Matrix esque feel.. ehehehe

Scott Brickert · October 29th, 2004, 11:29 PM

i bought a new Adaptec 3 port firewire card with NEC chipset and installed it. This is a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with built in firewire port, so theoretically I have 4 ports on two adapters.

Using the PCMCIA Adaptec card, the hard drive installed and read OK. Plugged in the camera, and, after a delay, it came online. Was able to capture from the cam to the firewire hard drive with no dropped frames.

Attempting PTT failed. There were huge numbers of dropped frames and blue frames, the frame on the camera's LCD was jumping all over the place, so I cancelled it.

I tried connecting the camera via the built-in port, but it does not get recognized.

Both devices are using IRQ 11. Maybe that's why they don't operate simultaneously. anyone know how to change the IRQ assigned to a device? Or other ideas?

Help.

Scott

Terry Thompson · October 30th, 2004, 12:08 AM

Thanks Edward,

I'm always learning new things in Vegas that make editing less grusome. Sometime even fun.

Terry

Edward Troxel · October 30th, 2004, 07:03 AM

The frame on which you freeze definitely makes a difference. There's always the "reduce interlace flicker" option. However, the best bet is to pick a frame that doesn't flicker to begin with.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · October 30th, 2004, 09:04 AM

The VASST Veg contest is nearly over, get your submissions in before Tuesday if you want a shot at winning. Don't forget to vote.
Thanks for the support on the sharing site, we moved to a new server with additional bandwidth, and had our biggest download day ever yesterday. Amazing where everyone is coming in from!
http://www.vasst.com/login.htm

Bob Safay · October 30th, 2004, 09:25 AM

Hello all. I am doing an educational video for the communities living around the Oak Ridge Reservation in TN. Remember, this is where they built the atomic bomb. One of the shots I need is an aireal of the entire area and, overlaying arrows indicating wind direction. So the question is, can I create annimated arrows on Vegas 5, or do I need another program? Bob

Tor Salomonsen · October 30th, 2004, 01:00 PM

You can find many arrows in a font called Wingdings 3. Use them with the text genetrator and you can move them with the placement function (keyframes) or pan/crop.

Edward Troxel · October 30th, 2004, 06:51 PM

Pan/Crop can also be used to change the direction of the arrows as well as the position.

Milt Lee · October 30th, 2004, 09:47 PM

Just that easy! Thanks!!
Milt

Tor Salomonsen · October 31st, 2004, 05:03 AM

If you are using shadow effect (in text gen) rotating in pan/crop will change the direction of the shadow as well, which can look odd. Shadow in track motion will keep its position in relation to the frame, even when the image is rotated in pan/crop.

Rob Lohman · October 31st, 2004, 07:51 AM

I'm still not sure what you are trying to do Ray. What does
"that might come out to 24fps and widescreen" mean??

There is a format "called" miniDVD that allows you to put a DVD
structure on a CD. HOWEVER, this will NOT be playable in 99% of
the players out there and will store a very short clip only.

It is far better to go with a DVD burner which are cheap these days!

Bob Safay · October 31st, 2004, 09:24 AM

WOW, thanks guys. Not only do I have the arrows I need but by doing a series of arrows and using overlaps I get the annimation also. What a great program. Thanks again. Bob

Rob Lohman · October 31st, 2004, 09:43 AM

No consumer/prosumer application will do dts. Only the highend
stuff. If you do this for a personal project I would just encode
the WAV file to Dolby Digital AC3 and be done with it.

October 29th, 2004, 03:05 PM	#1306
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	First of all, you don't have to split (like you did in Premiere). If you WANT to split, simply split on the proper frame, add a velocity envelope to the clip on the right, right-click the default first node, choose "Set To..." and type in 0. If you DON'T want to split, just add a velocity envelope to the clip, go to where you want the speed to stop, add a new node there set at 100%, move right 1 frame and add a new node there, right-click it, choose "Set To..." and type in 0. You might want to click on the link under my name and check out the newsletters. I have velocity changes well covered in one of the issues. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 30th, 2004, 12:08 AM	#1310
Terry Thompson Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 578	Thanks Edward, I'm always learning new things in Vegas that make editing less grusome. Sometime even fun. Terry __________________ He's only mostly sDEADy. sort of from "The Princess Bride" www.indicam.com

October 30th, 2004, 07:03 AM	#1311
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The frame on which you freeze definitely makes a difference. There's always the "reduce interlace flicker" option. However, the best bet is to pick a frame that doesn't flicker to begin with. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 30th, 2004, 09:04 AM	#1312
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Contest almost over The VASST Veg contest is nearly over, get your submissions in before Tuesday if you want a shot at winning. Don't forget to vote. Thanks for the support on the sharing site, we moved to a new server with additional bandwidth, and had our biggest download day ever yesterday. Amazing where everyone is coming in from! http://www.vasst.com/login.htm __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

October 30th, 2004, 09:25 AM	#1313
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Question about Graphics on Vegas 5. Hello all. I am doing an educational video for the communities living around the Oak Ridge Reservation in TN. Remember, this is where they built the atomic bomb. One of the shots I need is an aireal of the entire area and, overlaying arrows indicating wind direction. So the question is, can I create annimated arrows on Vegas 5, or do I need another program? Bob

October 29th, 2004, 03:21 PM	#1307
Vance Osborne New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 19	Thank you Edward...I've just realized that Vegas approaches this totally different the Premiere... And I just went to your site. Holy cow! Lots of info... thank you :) Happy halloween guys!

October 29th, 2004, 08:59 PM	#1308
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	one thing which hasnt been mentioned is the deinterlacing of the still frame.. vegas has a tendency to be a lil too accurate with the fields, and sometimes has the tendency to "flicker" that still image.. It could just be me, with my settings, but i havent set anything to deinterlace. what i do, is export the precise frame i need... then reimport it as an image file. When you export, u just make sure that the frame itself isnt a blended field, else youll get flickering due to the high resolution. even selecting the option to reduce the interlace flickering doesnt do all that much to assist. other times i use the velocity method, one i hit zero, i then drag the clip fo ras long as i need the still to go for. Another trick which doing that is to use teh pan/crop tool to add motion to the still... makes for a nice Matrix esque feel.. ehehehe

October 29th, 2004, 11:29 PM	#1309
Scott Brickert Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Crested Butte, CO Posts: 576	i bought a new Adaptec 3 port firewire card with NEC chipset and installed it. This is a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with built in firewire port, so theoretically I have 4 ports on two adapters. Using the PCMCIA Adaptec card, the hard drive installed and read OK. Plugged in the camera, and, after a delay, it came online. Was able to capture from the cam to the firewire hard drive with no dropped frames. Attempting PTT failed. There were huge numbers of dropped frames and blue frames, the frame on the camera's LCD was jumping all over the place, so I cancelled it. I tried connecting the camera via the built-in port, but it does not get recognized. Both devices are using IRQ 11. Maybe that's why they don't operate simultaneously. anyone know how to change the IRQ assigned to a device? Or other ideas? Help. Scott

October 30th, 2004, 01:00 PM	#1314
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	You can find many arrows in a font called Wingdings 3. Use them with the text genetrator and you can move them with the placement function (keyframes) or pan/crop.

October 30th, 2004, 06:51 PM	#1315
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Pan/Crop can also be used to change the direction of the arrows as well as the position. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 30th, 2004, 09:47 PM	#1316
Milt Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cass Lake MN Posts: 221	Just that easy! Thanks!! Milt __________________ Professional website - http://manykites.com Personal - http://mrdogsblog.com

October 31st, 2004, 05:03 AM	#1317
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	If you are using shadow effect (in text gen) rotating in pan/crop will change the direction of the shadow as well, which can look odd. Shadow in track motion will keep its position in relation to the frame, even when the image is rotated in pan/crop.

October 31st, 2004, 07:51 AM	#1318
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I'm still not sure what you are trying to do Ray. What does "that might come out to 24fps and widescreen" mean?? There is a format "called" miniDVD that allows you to put a DVD structure on a CD. HOWEVER, this will NOT be playable in 99% of the players out there and will store a very short clip only. It is far better to go with a DVD burner which are cheap these days! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 31st, 2004, 09:24 AM	#1319
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	WOW, thanks guys. Not only do I have the arrows I need but by doing a series of arrows and using overlaps I get the annimation also. What a great program. Thanks again. Bob

October 31st, 2004, 09:43 AM	#1320
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	No consumer/prosumer application will do dts. Only the highend stuff. If you do this for a personal project I would just encode the WAV file to Dolby Digital AC3 and be done with it. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors