Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q3Q4)

Dave Largent · December 16th, 2004, 11:31 PM

Same here ... and at the beginning, too.

Mark Paschke · December 17th, 2004, 01:20 AM

thank you so much Im off to try it !!!

Edward Troxel · December 17th, 2004, 08:07 AM

The AC3 encoder in Vegas does come with DVDA - not Vegas - so it is needed in order to encode AC3 audio.

Bob Costa · December 17th, 2004, 09:14 AM

I am likely buying an HD camera next year. I know they will output DV, which makes it an easier decision. But now what I would like ot know is:

If I record in HDV, capture it as DV, and edit it with Vegas, Can I recapture the video a year from now, and just run the project file against the new captures to get the same project in HD format? Or will I have to tweak or redo the project timeline later on?

David Ennis · December 17th, 2004, 12:09 PM

Many People perusing ths board prior to buying Vegas are probably interested in what to expect for rendering times. I thought I'd post my own experience thus far and see if anyone else cares to follow suit.

Processer: 2.4 Ghz Pentium IV
Memory: 750 Mb DDR (2700) RAM
Video: 34 MB NVidia
Hard drives (2) WD 7200 RPM w/cache
OS: XP Pro

Material:
a 98 minute first act of a stage play. Recorded with two cameras. Edited in Vegas using Excalibur to place 190 clips selected from the two videos onto the master track.

Rendering times (ratios):
6.3:1--MPEG II, NTSC DV template, rendering set to "good", video set to best (31), all other defaults
6.3:1--AVI, NTSC DV template, rendering set to good, all other defaults
10.4:1--same as either of above, rendering set to "best"

Note: I don't perceive any difference between "good" and "best" rendering for this kind of work.

Michael Estepp · December 17th, 2004, 12:42 PM

Hey Folks,

I want to hook up a small TV to my computer so that I can preview the look of things. Are there any recommendations on how to do this? I want to try and avoid two things, confusing the computer and having the TV magnets interferre with my computer monitors.

Thanks Folks

Michael Estepp

Edward Troxel · December 17th, 2004, 01:05 PM

Computer -> firewire -> Camera/Convertor/Deck -> S-Video or RCA -> TV

Van Lam · December 17th, 2004, 04:07 PM

Here's a good converter (cheap too, esp compared to the canopus advc-100):

Link to

Barry Rivadue · December 17th, 2004, 08:38 PM

Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but since it indirectly involves Vegas 5, here we are!

I've been capturing clips into Vegas, making compilations on DVD. Sometimes the files add up to alot per project (i.e. 50 GB). After I'm done with a compilation I send all the files to the recycle bin. Zap. But each time I check my hard drive contents as to reclaimed space (that is, I capture 50 GB and then delete it after the project is done, expecting to be back where I started), I never seem to entirely recover the space previously used up. It's like I'm getting diminishing returns of reclaimed space on my hard drive after deleting each project. For every recycle bin session there seems to be a residual amount of GBs I never get back. I usually delete files from My Documents, since that's where the files are, but are there hidden, undeleted "shadow files" somewhere else? This is really baffling to me, but I hope it isn't to any of you!

Michael Wisniewski · December 17th, 2004, 10:21 PM

Are you emptying the recycle bin too? The hard disk space is not allocated back until you do that. (Right-click - Empty Recycle Bin)

Also are you deleting the DVD files? They might be the culprit. I usually keep those though, just in case I need to re-create the DVD.

Barry Rivadue · December 17th, 2004, 10:26 PM

Yes, as to the Recycle Bin--and it goes "scrunch!" I also delete the DVD files after awhile. Could there be such a thing though as "phantom files?"

Glenn Chan · December 17th, 2004, 10:28 PM

You can try the utility "treesize" to help you out. I prefer the freeware version over the pro one.

http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

David Ennis · December 17th, 2004, 10:33 PM

I agree with Glenn-- "Treesize" is a great little utility. You probably have a directory somewhere that is having intermediate media files added to it, and Treesize will point it out.

Edward Troxel · December 17th, 2004, 10:36 PM

Do you have Norton Utilities installed? Is IT'S Recycle Bin empty?

Barry Rivadue · December 18th, 2004, 12:16 PM

Thanks for the tips but I hit upon a solution right under my nose. I found "Disk Cleanup" in the XP software. I opted for eliminating "unnecessary" compressed files (which I never actually saw listed anywhere). Once done I regained 60 GB of free space!! Anyway, I do appreciate all your input.

December 17th, 2004, 08:07 AM	#1758
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The AC3 encoder in Vegas does come with DVDA - not Vegas - so it is needed in order to encode AC3 audio. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 17th, 2004, 09:14 AM	#1759
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	HD migration I am likely buying an HD camera next year. I know they will output DV, which makes it an easier decision. But now what I would like ot know is: If I record in HDV, capture it as DV, and edit it with Vegas, Can I recapture the video a year from now, and just run the project file against the new captures to get the same project in HD format? Or will I have to tweak or redo the project timeline later on? __________________ You are either growing or dying.

December 17th, 2004, 12:09 PM	#1760
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	Vegas Rendering Time Examples Many People perusing ths board prior to buying Vegas are probably interested in what to expect for rendering times. I thought I'd post my own experience thus far and see if anyone else cares to follow suit. Processer: 2.4 Ghz Pentium IV Memory: 750 Mb DDR (2700) RAM Video: 34 MB NVidia Hard drives (2) WD 7200 RPM w/cache OS: XP Pro Material: a 98 minute first act of a stage play. Recorded with two cameras. Edited in Vegas using Excalibur to place 190 clips selected from the two videos onto the master track. Rendering times (ratios): 6.3:1--MPEG II, NTSC DV template, rendering set to "good", video set to best (31), all other defaults 6.3:1--AVI, NTSC DV template, rendering set to good, all other defaults 10.4:1--same as either of above, rendering set to "best" Note: I don't perceive any difference between "good" and "best" rendering for this kind of work. __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me

December 17th, 2004, 12:42 PM	#1761
Michael Estepp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 95	Connecting a TV Hey Folks, I want to hook up a small TV to my computer so that I can preview the look of things. Are there any recommendations on how to do this? I want to try and avoid two things, confusing the computer and having the TV magnets interferre with my computer monitors. Thanks Folks Michael Estepp

December 17th, 2004, 01:05 PM	#1762
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Computer -> firewire -> Camera/Convertor/Deck -> S-Video or RCA -> TV __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 16th, 2004, 11:31 PM	#1756
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Same here ... and at the beginning, too.

December 17th, 2004, 01:20 AM	#1757
Mark Paschke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Willamette Valley OR Posts: 90	thank you so much Im off to try it !!!

December 17th, 2004, 04:07 PM	#1763
Van Lam Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 35	Here's a good converter (cheap too, esp compared to the canopus advc-100): Link to __________________ "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." -Mark Twain

December 17th, 2004, 08:38 PM	#1764
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	Reclaiming Hard Drive Space: A Mystery Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but since it indirectly involves Vegas 5, here we are! I've been capturing clips into Vegas, making compilations on DVD. Sometimes the files add up to alot per project (i.e. 50 GB). After I'm done with a compilation I send all the files to the recycle bin. Zap. But each time I check my hard drive contents as to reclaimed space (that is, I capture 50 GB and then delete it after the project is done, expecting to be back where I started), I never seem to entirely recover the space previously used up. It's like I'm getting diminishing returns of reclaimed space on my hard drive after deleting each project. For every recycle bin session there seems to be a residual amount of GBs I never get back. I usually delete files from My Documents, since that's where the files are, but are there hidden, undeleted "shadow files" somewhere else? This is really baffling to me, but I hope it isn't to any of you!

December 17th, 2004, 10:21 PM	#1765
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Are you emptying the recycle bin too? The hard disk space is not allocated back until you do that. (Right-click - Empty Recycle Bin) Also are you deleting the DVD files? They might be the culprit. I usually keep those though, just in case I need to re-create the DVD.

December 17th, 2004, 10:26 PM	#1766
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	Yes, as to the Recycle Bin--and it goes "scrunch!" I also delete the DVD files after awhile. Could there be such a thing though as "phantom files?"

December 17th, 2004, 10:28 PM	#1767
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	You can try the utility "treesize" to help you out. I prefer the freeware version over the pro one. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

December 17th, 2004, 10:33 PM	#1768
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	I agree with Glenn-- "Treesize" is a great little utility. You probably have a directory somewhere that is having intermediate media files added to it, and Treesize will point it out. __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me

December 17th, 2004, 10:36 PM	#1769
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Do you have Norton Utilities installed? Is IT'S Recycle Bin empty? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 18th, 2004, 12:16 PM	#1770
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	Thanks for the tips but I hit upon a solution right under my nose. I found "Disk Cleanup" in the XP software. I opted for eliminating "unnecessary" compressed files (which I never actually saw listed anywhere). Once done I regained 60 GB of free space!! Anyway, I do appreciate all your input.