What can 7.0 do with HDV that 6.0 can't?

Guy Bruner · May 8th, 2007, 06:05 PM

Ok, I have defragged C:, moved swap file from C: to another drive, optimized my bios, rendered to different drives and I still can't render the original rendertest.veg in less than 27 seconds. However, I can render John Cline's new rendertest-hdv.veg in 155 seconds. Go figure (shrug).

Ok, thanks, John. I had the wrong output file format. Duh! Original rendertest.veg now renders in 12 sec. That's more like it.

Glenn Gipson · May 19th, 2007, 10:03 AM

I have a P4 @ 2.8 ghz, will this be enough to run HDV (HV20 footage) smoothly with Vegas 7.0? As it stands right now, the footage can't run smoothly with Vegas 5.0 (my current system) so I'm hoping this is related to the version of Vegas that I have, and not my CPU.

Guy Bruner · May 19th, 2007, 10:51 AM

Glen,
Vegas 7 handles HDV better than v.5, but I doubt you will be able to see enough improvement to make the experience better. My core 2 duo would edit it but not at full framerate in preview unless I went to draft mode. Putting it in Full (Best) would drag it to less than 10 fps. My quad core zips right through it with a single video track.

Glenn Gipson · May 20th, 2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Guy Bruner

Glen,
Vegas 7 handles HDV better than v.5, but I doubt you will be able to see enough improvement to make the experience better. My core 2 duo would edit it but not at full framerate in preview unless I went to draft mode. Putting it in Full (Best) would drag it to less than 10 fps. My quad core zips right through it with a single video track.

So in other words, I'm going to need a Quad Core machine to edit HV20-1080-24f footage the way I use to edit SD?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · May 20th, 2007, 12:02 PM

Editing four streams of HDV mixed with XDCAM quite regularly with full/usually full frame playback at Preview/Auto, sized to half rez. This setting has always been the recommended playback in previous versions of Vegas, and still is.
You can edit HDV quite easily on any dual core machine, assuming you're not running antivirus or other background apps. Dual 270 machine (dual dual core) is a great way to work, we've got 5 of these machines running, and all are HDV or XDCAM on the timeline, all the time.
Faster is better, but not necessary. If you've got a dual core system, you should always be able to achieve full framerate playback at Preview/Auto

Glenn Gipson · May 20th, 2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle

Editing four streams of HDV mixed with XDCAM quite regularly with full/usually full frame playback at Preview/Auto, sized to half rez. This setting has always been the recommended playback in previous versions of Vegas, and still is.
You can edit HDV quite easily on any dual core machine, assuming you're not running antivirus or other background apps. Dual 270 machine (dual dual core) is a great way to work, we've got 5 of these machines running, and all are HDV or XDCAM on the timeline, all the time.
Faster is better, but not necessary. If you've got a dual core system, you should always be able to achieve full framerate playback at Preview/Auto

Thanks Douglas, that's good to know. I'm only looking to have one HDV track on my time line at once, along with six to eight other audio tracks. I'm only going to be performing simple cuts, fades, dissolves and some color correction.

Glenn Gipson · May 30th, 2007, 11:55 AM

Well, I just put Vegas 7.0 on my system before upgrading my hardware, and wow, what a difference! The HDV actually plays smoothly without the need for a new processor!

Glenn Gipson · May 30th, 2007, 11:57 AM

Well, it actually only plays smoothly in a small preview window. Where as before it wouldn't play at all.

Marcus Marchesseault · May 30th, 2007, 01:37 PM

It's nice when you get a big boost just from software. Save your money and there will be some fancy new quadcore processors late this year. They may even be affordable early next year. The best news for me is that the new quadcore chips (Penryn?) will be the same socket as my Core2Duo and much faster.

May 8th, 2007, 06:05 PM	#16
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Ok, I have defragged C:, moved swap file from C: to another drive, optimized my bios, rendered to different drives and I still can't render the original rendertest.veg in less than 27 seconds. However, I can render John Cline's new rendertest-hdv.veg in 155 seconds. Go figure (shrug). Ok, thanks, John. I had the wrong output file format. Duh! Original rendertest.veg now renders in 12 sec. That's more like it. Last edited by Guy Bruner; May 8th, 2007 at 08:57 PM.

May 20th, 2007, 12:02 PM	#20
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Editing four streams of HDV mixed with XDCAM quite regularly with full/usually full frame playback at Preview/Auto, sized to half rez. This setting has always been the recommended playback in previous versions of Vegas, and still is. You can edit HDV quite easily on any dual core machine, assuming you're not running antivirus or other background apps. Dual 270 machine (dual dual core) is a great way to work, we've got 5 of these machines running, and all are HDV or XDCAM on the timeline, all the time. Faster is better, but not necessary. If you've got a dual core system, you should always be able to achieve full framerate playback at Preview/Auto __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

May 19th, 2007, 10:03 AM	#17
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	I have a P4 @ 2.8 ghz, will this be enough to run HDV (HV20 footage) smoothly with Vegas 7.0? As it stands right now, the footage can't run smoothly with Vegas 5.0 (my current system) so I'm hoping this is related to the version of Vegas that I have, and not my CPU.

May 19th, 2007, 10:51 AM	#18
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Glen, Vegas 7 handles HDV better than v.5, but I doubt you will be able to see enough improvement to make the experience better. My core 2 duo would edit it but not at full framerate in preview unless I went to draft mode. Putting it in Full (Best) would drag it to less than 10 fps. My quad core zips right through it with a single video track.

May 30th, 2007, 11:55 AM	#22
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Well, I just put Vegas 7.0 on my system before upgrading my hardware, and wow, what a difference! The HDV actually plays smoothly without the need for a new processor!

May 30th, 2007, 11:57 AM	#23
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	Well, it actually only plays smoothly in a small preview window. Where as before it wouldn't play at all.

May 30th, 2007, 01:37 PM	#24
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	It's nice when you get a big boost just from software. Save your money and there will be some fancy new quadcore processors late this year. They may even be affordable early next year. The best news for me is that the new quadcore chips (Penryn?) will be the same socket as my Core2Duo and much faster.