Capturing from my TV using the XL1s and Vegas at DVinfo.net

Oliver Darden · February 12th, 2007, 09:13 PM

I know I can use my XL1s to preview a project I am working on in Vegas (5.0) on a TV via firewire and the a/v outs, BUT how do I capture a DVD playing from my TV into Vegas?

Thanks!

p.s. I tried going to FILE then CAPTURE VIDEO but all it does is look at the tape inside the camera.

Vince Curtis · February 12th, 2007, 09:37 PM

DVD -> tape -> Vegas

Oliver Darden · February 12th, 2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince Curtis

DVD -> tape -> Vegas

Not sure what you mean by "tape". Do you mean I have to record the clip I want from my TV to a MiniDV tape then capture it like normal?

Edward Troxel · February 12th, 2007, 10:07 PM

You could go to tape as an intermediate or you could turn off device control and just use the camera as a convertor.

Oliver Darden · February 12th, 2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

just use the camera as a convertor.

Thats what I would like to do. How would I go about doing this?

When I look through my eye piece on the xl1 it says "a/v in" so I guess I have it hooked up correctly. I just need to know the steps to capture what my TV is playing using my xl1 as a convertor and Vegas.

Oliver Darden · February 15th, 2007, 03:15 AM

64 people looked at this post and know one knows?!?! =)

Oh well thanks for trying, if I figure it out I will post how I did it.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · February 15th, 2007, 08:18 AM

Patience, Oliver.....:-)

Connect your television to the analog inputs of the XL
Connect your XL to the Firewire card on your computer
Put your XL in VTR mode.
Enable the capture utility on the computer/Vegas.

Done.

Many, many people use their camcorder as pass-thru/converter devices, it's very easy, I'm thinking that maybe folks are under the impression you wanted to do something more complicated. That's what I was thinking.

Edward Troxel · February 15th, 2007, 08:26 AM

One more thing to make sure that I mentioned in the previous post: turn OFF device control in the capture program. Otherwise it will try to capture from a tape instead of the pass-thru.

Graham Bernard · February 16th, 2007, 02:49 AM

Oliver, I have XM2s. The lowlier XL Canon. When I first started out, I HAVE done exactly this. Use the Camera as a Pass Thru' device.

If I had seen this thread, I wouldn't wanted to reply as I don't have the more PRO XL series - yeah? Meaning, maybe the PRo-er version wouldn't allow for pass thru'? I could quite easily confused the thread here.

Now we HAVE got this far, I can also say that when I did do this, I needed to set the XM2 to ALLOW for Pass Thru.

There are some caveats to this process. Least of which is the copy protect signal that can stop the signal in its tracks. Neither can I have a tape in the camera.

Oliver Darden · February 16th, 2007, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

One more thing to make sure that I mentioned in the previous post: turn OFF device control in the capture program. Otherwise it will try to capture from a tape instead of the pass-thru.

This is the only thing that I cant seem to find, I did a google search and it seems you have to goto: Options / Preferences / General and remove the checkbox from "Enable DV device control", BUT that box is nowhere to be found for me to uncheck.

I am using Vegas 5.0.

Thanks a lot for the info Douglas & Edward, I feel like I am getting closer. =)

p.s. Graham, I have no idea what your talking about....

Oliver Darden · February 16th, 2007, 03:23 AM

whoops (I'm dumb), the box to uncheck has to be done in the window that comes up when you click capture video. So you: click capture video / options / preferences / its the 1st box.

But I still don't get a picture, it stopped looking for a tape after I turned the DV Device Control off and the screen went from blue to black but I'm not getting a preview / input to capture anything.

Maybe Graham knows something we don't about the "copy protect signal"? BUT like I said on my 1st post I CAN use the XL1s to preview on an external monitor when I am working on a project in Vegas so shouldn't it work the other way?

Thanks Guys.

Kyle Ringin · February 16th, 2007, 05:51 PM

Why would you not put the DVD into your computer and rip the contents to an .avi file? that'd avoid unnecessary digital->analog (composite or svideo)->digital conversion.

Just a thought.
Kyle

Mike Kujbida · February 16th, 2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle Ringin

Why would you not put the DVD into your computer and rip the contents to an .avi file?

Great idea but, unfortunately, Oliver's only running Vegas 5 and that feature didn't get added until 6.0c :-(
You could use the various ripping tools available but I prefer doing it the easy way myself :-)

David Hobbs · February 16th, 2007, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Ringin

Why would you not put the DVD into your computer and rip the contents to an .avi file? that'd avoid unnecessary digital->analog (composite or svideo)->digital conversion.

Just a thought.
Kyle

I have some footage on DVD that I'd like to edit with Vegas Movie Studio 7 and I've tried this approach. I've ripping the DVD to several formats and they each seem to work. Which format is better for this application - MPEG2, DivX or AVI? Or another?

Brian Luce · February 16th, 2007, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Ringin

Why would you not put the DVD into your computer and rip the contents to an .avi file? that'd avoid unnecessary digital->analog (composite or svideo)->digital conversion.

Just a thought.
Kyle

Aren't there anti piracy features in a dvd to prevent this?

February 12th, 2007, 09:13 PM	#1
Oliver Darden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 522	Capturing from my TV using the XL1s and Vegas I know I can use my XL1s to preview a project I am working on in Vegas (5.0) on a TV via firewire and the a/v outs, BUT how do I capture a DVD playing from my TV into Vegas? Thanks! p.s. I tried going to FILE then CAPTURE VIDEO but all it does is look at the tape inside the camera.

February 12th, 2007, 10:07 PM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You could go to tape as an intermediate or you could turn off device control and just use the camera as a convertor. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 15th, 2007, 08:18 AM	#7
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Patience, Oliver.....:-) Connect your television to the analog inputs of the XL Connect your XL to the Firewire card on your computer Put your XL in VTR mode. Enable the capture utility on the computer/Vegas. Done. Many, many people use their camcorder as pass-thru/converter devices, it's very easy, I'm thinking that maybe folks are under the impression you wanted to do something more complicated. That's what I was thinking. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

February 15th, 2007, 08:26 AM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	One more thing to make sure that I mentioned in the previous post: turn OFF device control in the capture program. Otherwise it will try to capture from a tape instead of the pass-thru. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 12th, 2007, 09:37 PM	#2
Vince Curtis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 69	DVD -> tape -> Vegas

February 15th, 2007, 03:15 AM	#6
Oliver Darden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 522	64 people looked at this post and know one knows?!?! =) Oh well thanks for trying, if I figure it out I will post how I did it.

February 16th, 2007, 02:49 AM	#9
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Oliver, I have XM2s. The lowlier XL Canon. When I first started out, I HAVE done exactly this. Use the Camera as a Pass Thru' device. If I had seen this thread, I wouldn't wanted to reply as I don't have the more PRO XL series - yeah? Meaning, maybe the PRo-er version wouldn't allow for pass thru'? I could quite easily confused the thread here. Now we HAVE got this far, I can also say that when I did do this, I needed to set the XM2 to ALLOW for Pass Thru. There are some caveats to this process. Least of which is the copy protect signal that can stop the signal in its tracks. Neither can I have a tape in the camera.

February 16th, 2007, 03:23 AM	#11
Oliver Darden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 522	whoops (I'm dumb), the box to uncheck has to be done in the window that comes up when you click capture video. So you: click capture video / options / preferences / its the 1st box. But I still don't get a picture, it stopped looking for a tape after I turned the DV Device Control off and the screen went from blue to black but I'm not getting a preview / input to capture anything. Maybe Graham knows something we don't about the "copy protect signal"? BUT like I said on my 1st post I CAN use the XL1s to preview on an external monitor when I am working on a project in Vegas so shouldn't it work the other way? Thanks Guys.

February 16th, 2007, 05:51 PM	#12
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	Why would you not put the DVD into your computer and rip the contents to an .avi file? that'd avoid unnecessary digital->analog (composite or svideo)->digital conversion. Just a thought. Kyle