Render question at DVinfo.net

Richard Bender · May 2nd, 2006, 08:05 AM

Do you render and save to AVI or a Mpf format when your getting ready to burn a DVD in DVD Architect 3?

John Rofrano · May 2nd, 2006, 08:13 AM

You can do either but you will get slightly better results if you render an MPEG video stream and AC3 audio stream directly from Vegas. Use the DVD Architect MPEG2 templates that Vegas provides.

~jr

Jason Robinson · May 3rd, 2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Bender

Do you render and save to AVI or a Mpf format when your getting ready to burn a DVD in DVD Architect 3?

I haven't used anything BUT the DVDA render of MPEG2. The result is great quality and no re-rendering from inside DVDA. Granted, the MPEG2 render from Vegas will take a long time if the project is of any complexity or size and you won't be able to network render (still haven't been able to get that working).

But you shouldn't accept the quality hit by using any other format.

jason

Alex Thames · May 3rd, 2006, 06:20 PM

Could someone explain what DVDA is?

Ken Pike · May 3rd, 2006, 06:27 PM

Alex,
DVDA = (Sony) DVD Architect...at least I hope it does as that's how I've been interpreting it over the last couple of years.

Edward Troxel · May 3rd, 2006, 07:58 PM

It's simply much easier to type DVDA instead of the full "DVD Architect". (Plus, you don't need to know how to spell "Architect" :-) )

Douglas Spotted Eagle · May 3rd, 2006, 11:27 PM

Just bear in mind that it's also a porn-industry reference, hence the reason many are loathe to use the "DVDA" moniker. Makes some folks snigger a bit. I tend to use "DVD A" instead, FWIW.

Aaron Koolen · May 4th, 2006, 04:25 AM

Yes a very bad choice of acronyms I think.

Aaron

Peter Jefferson · May 4th, 2006, 07:32 PM

whats wrong wth porn?? ;)

Edward Troxel · May 4th, 2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Jefferson

whats wrong wth porn?? ;)

Too much to get into here... and also the reason I have never heard of any sort of alternate meanings and, I'm sure, I do NOT want to know.

p.s. I think this thread has gone far enough now.

Eric Pontbriand · May 4th, 2006, 11:23 PM

I've been rendering TV :30's to uncompressed AVI's and then re-rendering out again in DVD architect. This yields a razor sharp output so far as I can tell.

The MPEG streams are compressed and result in less data on the DVD then when I re-render from AVI, so I'm convinced there is more compression if you go straight to MPEG.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · May 5th, 2006, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Pontbriand

The MPEG streams are compressed and result in less data on the DVD then when I re-render from AVI, so I'm convinced there is more compression if you go straight to MPEG.

Of course there is. You render to DVavi first, you're going to a 4:1:1 sample, and then you render to MPEG from that, and you've got 4:2:0, which means it's really 4:1:0 because it's so starved at encode input.
Always render from the timeline to MPEG if you can.

May 2nd, 2006, 08:05 AM	#1
Richard Bender Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 40	Render question Do you render and save to AVI or a Mpf format when your getting ready to burn a DVD in DVD Architect 3?

May 2nd, 2006, 08:13 AM	#2
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	You can do either but you will get slightly better results if you render an MPEG video stream and AC3 audio stream directly from Vegas. Use the DVD Architect MPEG2 templates that Vegas provides. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

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Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	It's simply much easier to type DVDA instead of the full "DVD Architect". (Plus, you don't need to know how to spell "Architect" :-) ) __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 3rd, 2006, 11:27 PM	#7
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Just bear in mind that it's also a porn-industry reference, hence the reason many are loathe to use the "DVDA" moniker. Makes some folks snigger a bit. I tend to use "DVD A" instead, FWIW. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

May 4th, 2006, 04:25 AM	#8
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Yes a very bad choice of acronyms I think. Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

May 3rd, 2006, 06:20 PM	#4
Alex Thames Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 508	Could someone explain what DVDA is?

May 3rd, 2006, 06:27 PM	#5
Ken Pike New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 16	Alex, DVDA = (Sony) DVD Architect...at least I hope it does as that's how I've been interpreting it over the last couple of years.

May 4th, 2006, 07:32 PM	#9
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	whats wrong wth porn?? ;)

May 4th, 2006, 11:23 PM	#11
Eric Pontbriand Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Watertown, CT Posts: 29	I use uncompressed AVI I've been rendering TV :30's to uncompressed AVI's and then re-rendering out again in DVD architect. This yields a razor sharp output so far as I can tell. The MPEG streams are compressed and result in less data on the DVD then when I re-render from AVI, so I'm convinced there is more compression if you go straight to MPEG.