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Tom Johnson · March 6th, 2006, 08:38 PM

if i wanted to incorporate a 3d model into my project how do i do that..

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 6th, 2006, 10:24 PM

Just render it out in your 3D modeling program as an uncompressed avi (for best quality), as a sequential PNG or TGA, or even as just plain ole' vanilla HDV, and drop it on the Vegas timeline.

Tom Johnson · March 6th, 2006, 10:53 PM

any recommendations on programs...thanks for the response too

Boyd Ostroff · March 6th, 2006, 11:27 PM

See the following:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=10609
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58022

Threads on this topic are not very frequent around here. There are a lot of sites devoted to 3d modeling, but I don't have time to follow them anymore. One of the better ones is http://highend3d.com/

Tom Johnson · March 6th, 2006, 11:39 PM

hmm thanks boyd...i have been investigating and looks as it is a career in itself for a peice that is impressive...i probably will farm it out if i need it done. do you or anyone here use pre made models in a project. like say i want to incorporate a model of a car. is there a place i can go and download lets say a model of a truck and then incorporate it in my project. have the 3d model spinning and overlay it on my vid track. thats basically what i am trying to do

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 6th, 2006, 11:41 PM

There are LOTS of 3ds models for download. Problem is, they're just shells/frames. You need an app to which you can import them and finish them off. On the cheap side, there is Ulead Cool 3D, which is incredibly powerful, but not fast. Especially not when rendering to HD.

Boyd Ostroff · March 6th, 2006, 11:54 PM

Yes, there are a lot of sources for models. For some reason, Poser has attracted quite a following. And aside for modeling people, it has been used for a lot of other things. I did a project last summer where they wanted Apache helicopters flying in formation like "Apocalypse Now". I found an inexpensive but very real looking poser model and imported it into Vue Infinite after animating the rotors in Poser. It looked real enough to fool people.

Check out DAZ: http://www.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=catmain&cat=1
And Renderosity: http://market.renderosity.com/

Tom Johnson · March 7th, 2006, 12:06 AM

ok i am dl ing poser right now am and going to give it a shot. i really just want to find a 3d animation i like make it an avi then bring it into my project...well see how this works

Robin Davies-Rollinson · March 7th, 2006, 06:14 AM

Tim,
I've created a simple 3D car model as an AVI with Sketchup.
It's only about 5Mb.
Would you like me to try to email it to you?

Robin.

Tom Johnson · March 7th, 2006, 12:32 PM

yeah send it to me. i'd love to see it

turbotommmy@yahoo.com

Tom Johnson · March 7th, 2006, 12:33 PM

wow poser is really quite involved. seems like it'll take a little time to grasp this one.. mabye more involved than i am looking for. but isn't that another word for 3d, "involved"?

Boyd Ostroff · March 7th, 2006, 04:31 PM

Any of the more powerful programs will have steep learning curves. But Poser, Bryce and Carrarra all were originally introduced by a company called "MetaCreations" which no longer exists. Since then the programs have changed hands through multiple companies. But they all still share the same strange user interface which looks like it might be part of technology developed from an alien spacecraft at Area 51 ;-)

John Rofrano · March 8th, 2006, 09:27 AM

If you just want to spin a car like a logo, Ulead Cool 3D Production Studio has the lowest learning curve and it will import 3DS files (from 3D Studio Max). You can find a model of a car from places like 3DCafe.com and then import it into Ulead and spin it. This is very simple to do.

I use Cinema 4D because it does not have as steep a learning curve as 3D Max and Maya. C4D gives you way more control than a simple program like Ulead Cool 3D. Spinning it is easy, but what’s even better is flying a camera around it. Cinema 4D allows you to draw a spline curve, attach a camera to it, and then the camera flies the curve with perfect movements. You can even target the car so no matter where you move the camera, it will keep facing the car. Very powerful and easy to use if you invest a few nights (no more than a week) going through the tutorials.

~jr

Tom Johnson · March 8th, 2006, 09:57 AM

thanks for the avi robin it played and looked cool. thanks guys for the suggestions i will keep trying these programs and see which one works best for me. I am not trying to create shrek movie but just something very very simple

Tom Johnson · March 8th, 2006, 10:30 AM

nice!!!! ulead was easy an is gonna work perfect for me. perfect...thanks a bunch

March 6th, 2006, 08:38 PM	#1
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	3d modeling if i wanted to incorporate a 3d model into my project how do i do that..

March 6th, 2006, 10:24 PM	#2
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Just render it out in your 3D modeling program as an uncompressed avi (for best quality), as a sequential PNG or TGA, or even as just plain ole' vanilla HDV, and drop it on the Vegas timeline. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

March 6th, 2006, 11:41 PM	#6
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	There are LOTS of 3ds models for download. Problem is, they're just shells/frames. You need an app to which you can import them and finish them off. On the cheap side, there is Ulead Cool 3D, which is incredibly powerful, but not fast. Especially not when rendering to HD. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

March 8th, 2006, 09:27 AM	#13
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	If you just want to spin a car like a logo, Ulead Cool 3D Production Studio has the lowest learning curve and it will import 3DS files (from 3D Studio Max). You can find a model of a car from places like 3DCafe.com and then import it into Ulead and spin it. This is very simple to do. I use Cinema 4D because it does not have as steep a learning curve as 3D Max and Maya. C4D gives you way more control than a simple program like Ulead Cool 3D. Spinning it is easy, but what’s even better is flying a camera around it. Cinema 4D allows you to draw a spline curve, attach a camera to it, and then the camera flies the curve with perfect movements. You can even target the car so no matter where you move the camera, it will keep facing the car. Very powerful and easy to use if you invest a few nights (no more than a week) going through the tutorials. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

March 6th, 2006, 10:53 PM	#3
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	any recommendations on programs...thanks for the response too

March 6th, 2006, 11:27 PM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	See the following: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=10609 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58022 Threads on this topic are not very frequent around here. There are a lot of sites devoted to 3d modeling, but I don't have time to follow them anymore. One of the better ones is http://highend3d.com/

March 6th, 2006, 11:39 PM	#5
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	hmm thanks boyd...i have been investigating and looks as it is a career in itself for a peice that is impressive...i probably will farm it out if i need it done. do you or anyone here use pre made models in a project. like say i want to incorporate a model of a car. is there a place i can go and download lets say a model of a truck and then incorporate it in my project. have the 3d model spinning and overlay it on my vid track. thats basically what i am trying to do

March 6th, 2006, 11:54 PM	#7
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Yes, there are a lot of sources for models. For some reason, Poser has attracted quite a following. And aside for modeling people, it has been used for a lot of other things. I did a project last summer where they wanted Apache helicopters flying in formation like "Apocalypse Now". I found an inexpensive but very real looking poser model and imported it into Vue Infinite after animating the rotors in Poser. It looked real enough to fool people. Check out DAZ: http://www.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=catmain&cat=1 And Renderosity: http://market.renderosity.com/

March 7th, 2006, 12:06 AM	#8
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	ok i am dl ing poser right now am and going to give it a shot. i really just want to find a 3d animation i like make it an avi then bring it into my project...well see how this works

March 7th, 2006, 06:14 AM	#9
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Tim, I've created a simple 3D car model as an AVI with Sketchup. It's only about 5Mb. Would you like me to try to email it to you? Robin.

March 7th, 2006, 12:32 PM	#10
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	yeah send it to me. i'd love to see it turbotommmy@yahoo.com

March 7th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#11
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	wow poser is really quite involved. seems like it'll take a little time to grasp this one.. mabye more involved than i am looking for. but isn't that another word for 3d, "involved"?

March 7th, 2006, 04:31 PM	#12
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Any of the more powerful programs will have steep learning curves. But Poser, Bryce and Carrarra all were originally introduced by a company called "MetaCreations" which no longer exists. Since then the programs have changed hands through multiple companies. But they all still share the same strange user interface which looks like it might be part of technology developed from an alien spacecraft at Area 51 ;-)

March 8th, 2006, 09:57 AM	#14
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	thanks for the avi robin it played and looked cool. thanks guys for the suggestions i will keep trying these programs and see which one works best for me. I am not trying to create shrek movie but just something very very simple

March 8th, 2006, 10:30 AM	#15
Tom Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82	nice!!!! ulead was easy an is gonna work perfect for me. perfect...thanks a bunch