Vegas Video discussions from 2003 at DVinfo.net

Dylan Couper · January 16th, 2003, 05:55 PM

Is the best way to shrink something down in resolution in Vegas, simply to go to File -> Properties (project properties) and alter the width/height to whatever I want? I'm going smaller for web delivery.
I need to know asap if possible.
Thanks

Brian M. Dickman · January 16th, 2003, 06:02 PM

The least painful (i.e. best way to avoid weird scaling issues) is to render it straight to the new resolution. File->Render As and pick your output resolution there. Changing the project properties does bad things to your currently loaded media, you're only interested in affecting the output.

Dylan Couper · January 16th, 2003, 06:10 PM

Perfect!
Thanks!

Wow, 7 minutes to get the answer I needed. This forum once again is awsome.

Dylan Couper · January 16th, 2003, 08:32 PM

Just to be sure...
Under "Render As", I assume I go to "Custom" then "Video". Then I have to change the Template to "uncompressed" in order to change the res. to a custom setting. Right?

I rendered out after doing this, but my file size was 2.5x bigger rendering a 320x240 file than when I rendered to NTSC DV 720x480.
Is this just the way it has to be, or am I doing it wrong?

Edward Troxel · January 16th, 2003, 10:19 PM

No, you do NOT want uncompressed - it's what it says - uncompressed which is extremely large.

Instead, pick File - Render As, and pick the desired output format such as .wmv. THEN choose "Custom" and change to the desired size/quality settings. You should then see files that are MUCH smaller.

Dylan Couper · January 16th, 2003, 11:28 PM

It worked, but delivered a file 1.5 the size of the original. I've got to be doing something wrong.

Dylan Couper · January 17th, 2003, 12:56 AM

Fixed it. Thanks gents!

Don Parrish · January 19th, 2003, 07:08 AM

Under project properties, video, frame rate, what is the effect of selecting 24 FPS. Is the for incoming video or rendering? if it is for rendering, does this have a positive effect on viewing.

David Mintzer · January 20th, 2003, 01:19 PM

That would before incoming video---

Don Parrish · January 20th, 2003, 04:40 PM

Thanks David

Dan Holly · January 28th, 2003, 03:19 PM

Ok, this is weird......need some info so I don't scratch out the last of my hair <;~)
I've been waiting on my new video card to show up for my home editing box, and have yet to pick up the Pioneer A-05 DVD burner.
(otherwise I wouldn't of had the issue below).

Last night my partner and I were editing the footage over at my house that we shot last weekend for a 30 second broadcast commercial. After hours of messing with the footage, we got it where we wanted......for a rev.0 to the customer.

He had a 10:30 meeting with them today, so we decided that for the rev. 0 we would "print to tape" in VV 3.0, and go on our merry way after their critique, and edit/publish on our editing box in our quasi office/studio in the next day or so.

During the "print to tape" I couldn't get the XL1s to "record" the edited footage back to tape.
(the same tape I pulled down some of the footage earlier in the process).
Since it was late, I plugged in my GL1 and there was no issue in "printing to tape"......mission accomplished....sort of.

I looked at all my settings to make sure everything was good to go, and literally changed nothing.

My home XP editing box "knows" both of these cameras very well, but we've never used the "print to tape" function since we have VCR and DVD capabilities in our office/studio.

In effect I can "pull" from both cameras, but can only "push" to the GL1.
Any ideas?

XP Pro (updates as recent as 1-25-03)
P4 1.8ghz
1 gig Corsair PC2100 DDR
~200 gig in all Seagate 7200 spin HD's
VV 3.0
Compliant firewire card
(more info if needed)

Edward Troxel · January 28th, 2003, 04:08 PM

Were you trying to use device control? If so, what would happen if you chose manual control and manually pressed the record button? I've printed to an XL-1 but think I've only done it manually.

Dan Holly · January 28th, 2003, 05:40 PM

For some reason when I plug in the XL1s that option does not give you the ability to "check it".

If I plug in my GL1, it is available.

I haven't plowed through the VV manual yet, since it was late last night when it happened..........

Nathan Gifford · January 28th, 2003, 07:43 PM

You might check the driver set used by XP. Many of the NLEs are rather picky about about which driver set you use.

Another thing to check is to be sure the S can be printed to. Try copying a tape from your GL1 to the S via a firewire cable. If that works you at least have a work around until you resolve the issue with Vegas.

Tor Salomonsen · January 29th, 2003, 01:43 AM

It might not be a Vegas issue. I had something similar going on. (Vegas 3.c and Win98SE. Capture was OK, but Vegas reported the camera (under options -> preferences -> video device) unavailable for device control. The Vegas forum at Sonic Foundry could not help (uncharacteristically). I re-installed Vegas, tried different 1394 cards - nothing. After a total clean out (Format c:\) and re-install of everything (except the clutter), the problem wasn't there anymore. I still don't know what it was.

January 16th, 2003, 05:55 PM	#1
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Vegas Video discussions from 2003 Is the best way to shrink something down in resolution in Vegas, simply to go to File -> Properties (project properties) and alter the width/height to whatever I want? I'm going smaller for web delivery. I need to know asap if possible. Thanks

January 19th, 2003, 07:08 AM	#8
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	Vegas video questions Under project properties, video, frame rate, what is the effect of selecting 24 FPS. Is the for incoming video or rendering? if it is for rendering, does this have a positive effect on viewing.

January 28th, 2003, 03:19 PM	#11
Dan Holly Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 336	Weird problem with VV 3.0 and XL1s Ok, this is weird......need some info so I don't scratch out the last of my hair <;~) I've been waiting on my new video card to show up for my home editing box, and have yet to pick up the Pioneer A-05 DVD burner. (otherwise I wouldn't of had the issue below). Last night my partner and I were editing the footage over at my house that we shot last weekend for a 30 second broadcast commercial. After hours of messing with the footage, we got it where we wanted......for a rev.0 to the customer. He had a 10:30 meeting with them today, so we decided that for the rev. 0 we would "print to tape" in VV 3.0, and go on our merry way after their critique, and edit/publish on our editing box in our quasi office/studio in the next day or so. During the "print to tape" I couldn't get the XL1s to "record" the edited footage back to tape. (the same tape I pulled down some of the footage earlier in the process). Since it was late, I plugged in my GL1 and there was no issue in "printing to tape"......mission accomplished....sort of. I looked at all my settings to make sure everything was good to go, and literally changed nothing. My home XP editing box "knows" both of these cameras very well, but we've never used the "print to tape" function since we have VCR and DVD capabilities in our office/studio. In effect I can "pull" from both cameras, but can only "push" to the GL1. Any ideas? XP Pro (updates as recent as 1-25-03) P4 1.8ghz 1 gig Corsair PC2100 DDR ~200 gig in all Seagate 7200 spin HD's VV 3.0 Compliant firewire card (more info if needed) __________________ Dan Holly Anchorage, Alaska

January 28th, 2003, 05:40 PM	#13
Dan Holly Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 336	hmmm...... For some reason when I plug in the XL1s that option does not give you the ability to "check it". If I plug in my GL1, it is available. I haven't plowed through the VV manual yet, since it was late last night when it happened.......... __________________ Dan Holly Anchorage, Alaska

January 28th, 2003, 07:43 PM	#14
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	You might check the driver set used by XP. Many of the NLEs are rather picky about about which driver set you use. Another thing to check is to be sure the S can be printed to. Try copying a tape from your GL1 to the S via a firewire cable. If that works you at least have a work around until you resolve the issue with Vegas. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

January 16th, 2003, 06:02 PM	#2
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	The least painful (i.e. best way to avoid weird scaling issues) is to render it straight to the new resolution. File->Render As and pick your output resolution there. Changing the project properties does bad things to your currently loaded media, you're only interested in affecting the output.

January 16th, 2003, 06:10 PM	#3
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Perfect! Thanks! Wow, 7 minutes to get the answer I needed. This forum once again is awsome.

January 16th, 2003, 08:32 PM	#4
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Just to be sure... Under "Render As", I assume I go to "Custom" then "Video". Then I have to change the Template to "uncompressed" in order to change the res. to a custom setting. Right? I rendered out after doing this, but my file size was 2.5x bigger rendering a 320x240 file than when I rendered to NTSC DV 720x480. Is this just the way it has to be, or am I doing it wrong?

January 16th, 2003, 10:19 PM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	No, you do NOT want uncompressed - it's what it says - uncompressed which is extremely large. Instead, pick File - Render As, and pick the desired output format such as .wmv. THEN choose "Custom" and change to the desired size/quality settings. You should then see files that are MUCH smaller.

January 16th, 2003, 11:28 PM	#6
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	It worked, but delivered a file 1.5 the size of the original. I've got to be doing something wrong.

January 17th, 2003, 12:56 AM	#7
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Fixed it. Thanks gents!

January 20th, 2003, 01:19 PM	#9
David Mintzer Rextilleon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 520	That would before incoming video---

January 20th, 2003, 04:40 PM	#10
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	Thanks David

January 28th, 2003, 04:08 PM	#12
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Were you trying to use device control? If so, what would happen if you chose manual control and manually pressed the record button? I've printed to an XL-1 but think I've only done it manually.

January 29th, 2003, 01:43 AM	#15
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	It might not be a Vegas issue. I had something similar going on. (Vegas 3.c and Win98SE. Capture was OK, but Vegas reported the camera (under options -> preferences -> video device) unavailable for device control. The Vegas forum at Sonic Foundry could not help (uncharacteristically). I re-installed Vegas, tried different 1394 cards - nothing. After a total clean out (Format c:\) and re-install of everything (except the clutter), the problem wasn't there anymore. I still don't know what it was.