Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Edward Troxel · September 23rd, 2003, 05:33 PM

Even if you got it to work, the colors wouldn't be accurate. Preview via firewire to see exactly what you will be sending to tape.

Yow Siang · September 23rd, 2003, 07:52 PM

Thanks for the advice, but i di not seems to find the tool button to allow me to do a freeform maskout for vegas like photoshop.
Wondering if vegas has such function at all?

Stephen van Vuuren · September 23rd, 2003, 08:33 PM

Suppposedly, the Parhelia does calibrate it's NTSC output (has full controls), but if it's not an option, I will stick with the firewire output.

Thanks for the info.

Tor Salomonsen · September 24th, 2003, 12:52 AM

If you want people to see the commercial, do not put much information at the bottom. Put a web address, add shadow and let it stand still. That looks professional. The postal address and whatever will be at the web address anyway, and if they don't pick up on that, they won't pick up on your postal address and whatnot.

Dave Largent · September 24th, 2003, 04:33 AM

I've read the other threads. I have Vegas 4.0d (not the +DVD version). I've renamed the .m2t files from this site to .mpg and
was able to play in Media Player 9 but get the following message
when I try to import to Vegas: "An error occured while opening one or more files, the file format plugin for the specified file was not properly initialized." Any thoughts would be appreciated.

John Eriksson · September 24th, 2003, 05:00 AM

did you do a conversion from transport stream to program stream (demuxing) on the m2t files first?

Do this using the HDTVtoMPEG2 app v1.09

VEGAS:
have you download the mailconcept HD codec?

Edward Troxel · September 24th, 2003, 07:39 AM

You have to do the masking by using other tools such as the secondary color correction tool. This will allow you to create a mask based on a color.

Dave Largent · September 24th, 2003, 08:07 AM

John,
Thanks. No, I haven't done either of these. Are both these required prior to editing in Vegas?
If you could describe the workflow (for example "first do this,
second do this", etc.) this would be helpful.
At any rate, do you know where to get the Mainconcept HD codec?
Dave

Steve Mullen · September 24th, 2003, 08:22 AM

I've been told Vegas v4 reads TS files directly.

Peter Jefferson · September 24th, 2003, 08:50 AM

thanx for the response,
i tried doing it to dv avi, however it came up with the same unknown error.

its not an urgent or extremely important project, however it eventually worked and aretefacts were actualy very minimal, which surprised me...

usually i work in raw formats as much as posible, but this jsut baffled the hell out of me...

i thought it was heat also.. but the system was running extrmely cool consideirng the environmental temps

Barry Green · September 24th, 2003, 11:58 AM

Vegas 4 does read the transport streams directly. You have to have registered the program and it should then download the mainconcept codec, and after that you should be able to directly edit the transport streams.

John Hartney · September 24th, 2003, 01:34 PM

Does Vegas4 use YUV or RGB?

thanks,

John

Edward Troxel · September 24th, 2003, 01:45 PM

My understanding is that it is RGB.

Yow Siang · September 24th, 2003, 06:35 PM

I have seen many videos with just certain human with colours and the rest are all b/w. is there anyway to do that with vegas?

yowsiang

George Brackett III · September 24th, 2003, 07:19 PM

Not specifically. You can use the cookie cutter fx for a rough effect, using keyframes. I'm trying a demo of Adobe After Effects using the "vector paint" tool to make a moving mask. The process is called "rotoscoping" and there's apparently no easy war to accomplish it. Basically, you have to "paint" virtually every frame to achieve a satisfactory effect.

September 23rd, 2003, 08:33 PM	#1143
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Suppposedly, the Parhelia does calibrate it's NTSC output (has full controls), but if it's not an option, I will stick with the firewire output. Thanks for the info. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

September 24th, 2003, 04:33 AM	#1145
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Am I The Only One Who Can't Import Into Vegas? I've read the other threads. I have Vegas 4.0d (not the +DVD version). I've renamed the .m2t files from this site to .mpg and was able to play in Media Player 9 but get the following message when I try to import to Vegas: "An error occured while opening one or more files, the file format plugin for the specified file was not properly initialized." Any thoughts would be appreciated.

September 24th, 2003, 05:00 AM	#1146
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	trix did you do a conversion from transport stream to program stream (demuxing) on the m2t files first? Do this using the HDTVtoMPEG2 app v1.09 VEGAS: have you download the mailconcept HD codec?

September 24th, 2003, 08:22 AM	#1149
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	I've been told Vegas v4 reads TS files directly. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

September 24th, 2003, 01:34 PM	#1152
John Hartney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Elgin, Illinois Posts: 206	color space Does Vegas4 use YUV or RGB? thanks, John

September 23rd, 2003, 05:33 PM	#1141
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Even if you got it to work, the colors wouldn't be accurate. Preview via firewire to see exactly what you will be sending to tape.

September 23rd, 2003, 07:52 PM	#1142
Yow Siang Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 153	Thanks for the advice, but i di not seems to find the tool button to allow me to do a freeform maskout for vegas like photoshop. Wondering if vegas has such function at all?

September 24th, 2003, 12:52 AM	#1144
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	If you want people to see the commercial, do not put much information at the bottom. Put a web address, add shadow and let it stand still. That looks professional. The postal address and whatever will be at the web address anyway, and if they don't pick up on that, they won't pick up on your postal address and whatnot.

September 24th, 2003, 07:39 AM	#1147
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You have to do the masking by using other tools such as the secondary color correction tool. This will allow you to create a mask based on a color.

September 24th, 2003, 08:07 AM	#1148
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	John, Thanks. No, I haven't done either of these. Are both these required prior to editing in Vegas? If you could describe the workflow (for example "first do this, second do this", etc.) this would be helpful. At any rate, do you know where to get the Mainconcept HD codec? Dave

September 24th, 2003, 08:50 AM	#1150
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	thanx for the response, i tried doing it to dv avi, however it came up with the same unknown error. its not an urgent or extremely important project, however it eventually worked and aretefacts were actualy very minimal, which surprised me... usually i work in raw formats as much as posible, but this jsut baffled the hell out of me... i thought it was heat also.. but the system was running extrmely cool consideirng the environmental temps

September 24th, 2003, 11:58 AM	#1151
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Vegas 4 does read the transport streams directly. You have to have registered the program and it should then download the mainconcept codec, and after that you should be able to directly edit the transport streams.

September 24th, 2003, 01:45 PM	#1153
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	My understanding is that it is RGB.

September 24th, 2003, 06:35 PM	#1154
Yow Siang Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 153	subject masking I have seen many videos with just certain human with colours and the rest are all b/w. is there anyway to do that with vegas? yowsiang

September 24th, 2003, 07:19 PM	#1155
George Brackett III Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Waterville, NY USA Posts: 83	Not specifically. You can use the cookie cutter fx for a rough effect, using keyframes. I'm trying a demo of Adobe After Effects using the "vector paint" tool to make a moving mask. The process is called "rotoscoping" and there's apparently no easy war to accomplish it. Basically, you have to "paint" virtually every frame to achieve a satisfactory effect.