Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Steven Galvano · December 19th, 2003, 10:37 AM

Good idea - but tons of source is my problem.
I have close to 100 hours of footage of this project, so I'll need to render in stages, then clean up the drives. Sort of complicates your process. I suppose I can also re-connect in stages.
I guess the best solution is Cineform's new one - so I can capture in my destination's codec. But I can't wait till 1/19! I have a deadline, so i need to be editing as we speak!

Steve

Paul St. Denis · December 19th, 2003, 11:02 AM

Steven, how about using original m2ts in step 2 of Alex's process, that way you would have the advantage of quicker editing together with space saving? HUFFYUV might be needed in Premiere because it does not handle m2ts directly.

Adam VanScoyoc · December 19th, 2003, 09:23 PM

Hello,
I was putting together a short video using a lens flare across the title text. Everything worked well until I restarted the program later. The lens flare was not working. Then I tried to place a cookie cutter over a video track and it wouldn't show up. What gives? I must have hit something by accident but I can't figure out what.

Please help me!!

Thanks in advance,
Adam

Adam VanScoyoc · December 19th, 2003, 09:51 PM

Never mind, I figured it out.
I must have hit that split screen button down on the preview window. Once I clicked on that the video effects started working again. It must just bypass those effects in the preview window.

Thanks anyway!

Dylan Couper · December 19th, 2003, 10:12 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel :
Seriously, the method for "tearing" the windows from the bottom area is to click on the thin line to the left of the window. When you click there and drag, you will get a free floating window. If you hold down the control key while dragging a window, it will prevent it from snapping into the bottom area.
-->>>

You know, I'd been wondering how to get my windows back to the free floating state for the better part of a year, but never got around to asking. Thanks Edward!

Edward Troxel · December 19th, 2003, 11:03 PM

The Split Screen button is there so you can compare a "before effect/after effect" or two different shots with each other. When you have it turned on, you can click and drag the mouse on the preview window to determine what areas show the before footage and what areas show the after footage. Most of the time when someone says their effects are not working or are working only on PART of the screen, this is the cause.

It's a powerful feature when used correctly.

Scott Brickert · December 20th, 2003, 11:20 PM

Newbie question.

so I capture a couple hundred clips, and create bins in the Clip Explorer of Video Capture. Then I want to use all these clips and the bins already created in a Vegas 4.0 project. But I can't find the bins. I see all the clips as files in WinXP Explorer and Explorer in Vegas, but not the bins and the organisation I've already created. Do Video Capture and Vegas set up completely separate and unrelated bin structures?

thanks,
Scott

Edward Troxel · December 21st, 2003, 12:58 PM

While I have not tried that particular feature, my understanding is that they WOULD transfer.

Gordon Lupien Jr. · December 23rd, 2003, 12:14 AM

New to this and I just ordered Vegas 4.0+DVD (to beat the supposed price increase... gosh I'm a sucker...).

I've wanted to encode Dolby 5.1 for a while now to create a few trailers for my home theater and for other interesting experiments.

Can someone briefly describe the interface to the encoder and whether you can synchronize 6 channels of, say, .wav files and then encode them?

How does it work?

Thanks!

- GLupien

Peter Sieben · December 23rd, 2003, 01:41 AM

You can mix in 5.1 surround on the timeline of Vegas. Just change the project Audio settings (File - Properties) to 5.1.

If you have a soundcard with seperate outputs for all 6 speakers, you will be able to monitor during mixing. Otherwise, you can monitor via your normal L+R speakers (which I do and after some trial and error you learn how to do that).

If you want produce a surround audio file (.AC3), you need the software Dolby Digital encoder which is installed with DVDA and will be available in the Render window of Vegas. So all your audiotracks will be mixed to 1 AC3 file, which can be added to a dvd project in DVDA.

Gordon Lupien Jr. · December 23rd, 2003, 08:35 AM

Thanks Peter!

So, since I have purchased the "+DVD" version, I should have the software encoder.

- GLupien

Edward Troxel · December 23rd, 2003, 09:11 AM

Yes. Since you purchased the +DVD version you will have the 5.1 AC-3 encoder.

Peter Sieben · December 23rd, 2003, 11:44 AM

What I also do is creating Windows Media 9 files which can have 5.1 digital surround sound. The WM 9 encoder that came with the 4b update of Vegas gives you the possibilty to render for webformat including surround sound. You can hear this for example in the HQ version of the short movie ZZZAP I did earlier this year (check the website below in my footer).

Brian Standing · December 23rd, 2003, 03:56 PM

Well, in my experience, yes and no.

IF you start in Vegas, open up a bin and click the "capture" icon button to launch Video Capture, you can capture directly into the selected Media Pool Bin.

However, I have not found a way of transferring the entire Capture bin structure into Vegas Media Pool.

Michael Wisniewski · December 23rd, 2003, 09:46 PM

Right-click any bin in Video Capture - you'll see the command to Add to Media Pool.

* The command won't be available if Vegas isn't open.

In contrast to Explorer, the bins act as pointers to the original files, letting you organize your media without affecting the original files. The bins in Video Capture are separate from the bins in Vegas. Bins are saved with each Vegas project file and with each Video Capture file.

December 19th, 2003, 09:23 PM	#1743
Adam VanScoyoc Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Oxford, PA Posts: 44	video effects stopped working Hello, I was putting together a short video using a lens flare across the title text. Everything worked well until I restarted the program later. The lens flare was not working. Then I tried to place a cookie cutter over a video track and it wouldn't show up. What gives? I must have hit something by accident but I can't figure out what. Please help me!! Thanks in advance, Adam

December 19th, 2003, 10:12 PM	#1745
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Edward Troxel : Seriously, the method for "tearing" the windows from the bottom area is to click on the thin line to the left of the window. When you click there and drag, you will get a free floating window. If you hold down the control key while dragging a window, it will prevent it from snapping into the bottom area. -->>> You know, I'd been wondering how to get my windows back to the free floating state for the better part of a year, but never got around to asking. Thanks Edward! __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

December 20th, 2003, 11:20 PM	#1747
Scott Brickert Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Crested Butte, CO Posts: 576	Video Capture bins vs Vegas bins Newbie question. so I capture a couple hundred clips, and create bins in the Clip Explorer of Video Capture. Then I want to use all these clips and the bins already created in a Vegas 4.0 project. But I can't find the bins. I see all the clips as files in WinXP Explorer and Explorer in Vegas, but not the bins and the organisation I've already created. Do Video Capture and Vegas set up completely separate and unrelated bin structures? thanks, Scott

December 23rd, 2003, 12:14 AM	#1749
Gordon Lupien Jr. Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 30	Dolby Digital 5.1 Encoding New to this and I just ordered Vegas 4.0+DVD (to beat the supposed price increase... gosh I'm a sucker...). I've wanted to encode Dolby 5.1 for a while now to create a few trailers for my home theater and for other interesting experiments. Can someone briefly describe the interface to the encoder and whether you can synchronize 6 channels of, say, .wav files and then encode them? How does it work? Thanks! - GLupien

December 23rd, 2003, 01:41 AM	#1750
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	You can mix in 5.1 surround on the timeline of Vegas. Just change the project Audio settings (File - Properties) to 5.1. If you have a soundcard with seperate outputs for all 6 speakers, you will be able to monitor during mixing. Otherwise, you can monitor via your normal L+R speakers (which I do and after some trial and error you learn how to do that). If you want produce a surround audio file (.AC3), you need the software Dolby Digital encoder which is installed with DVDA and will be available in the Render window of Vegas. So all your audiotracks will be mixed to 1 AC3 file, which can be added to a dvd project in DVDA. __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

December 19th, 2003, 10:37 AM	#1741
Steven Galvano Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 109	Good idea - but tons of source is my problem. I have close to 100 hours of footage of this project, so I'll need to render in stages, then clean up the drives. Sort of complicates your process. I suppose I can also re-connect in stages. I guess the best solution is Cineform's new one - so I can capture in my destination's codec. But I can't wait till 1/19! I have a deadline, so i need to be editing as we speak! Steve

December 19th, 2003, 11:02 AM	#1742
Paul St. Denis Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Stony Brook NY Posts: 169	Steven, how about using original m2ts in step 2 of Alex's process, that way you would have the advantage of quicker editing together with space saving? HUFFYUV might be needed in Premiere because it does not handle m2ts directly.

December 19th, 2003, 09:51 PM	#1744
Adam VanScoyoc Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Oxford, PA Posts: 44	Never mind, I figured it out. I must have hit that split screen button down on the preview window. Once I clicked on that the video effects started working again. It must just bypass those effects in the preview window. Thanks anyway!

December 19th, 2003, 11:03 PM	#1746
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The Split Screen button is there so you can compare a "before effect/after effect" or two different shots with each other. When you have it turned on, you can click and drag the mouse on the preview window to determine what areas show the before footage and what areas show the after footage. Most of the time when someone says their effects are not working or are working only on PART of the screen, this is the cause. It's a powerful feature when used correctly.

December 21st, 2003, 12:58 PM	#1748
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	While I have not tried that particular feature, my understanding is that they WOULD transfer.

December 23rd, 2003, 08:35 AM	#1751
Gordon Lupien Jr. Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 30	Thanks Peter! So, since I have purchased the "+DVD" version, I should have the software encoder. - GLupien

December 23rd, 2003, 09:11 AM	#1752
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes. Since you purchased the +DVD version you will have the 5.1 AC-3 encoder.

December 23rd, 2003, 11:44 AM	#1753
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	What I also do is creating Windows Media 9 files which can have 5.1 digital surround sound. The WM 9 encoder that came with the 4b update of Vegas gives you the possibilty to render for webformat including surround sound. You can hear this for example in the HQ version of the short movie ZZZAP I did earlier this year (check the website below in my footer). __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

December 23rd, 2003, 03:56 PM	#1754
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	Well, in my experience, yes and no. IF you start in Vegas, open up a bin and click the "capture" icon button to launch Video Capture, you can capture directly into the selected Media Pool Bin. However, I have not found a way of transferring the entire Capture bin structure into Vegas Media Pool.

December 23rd, 2003, 09:46 PM	#1755
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Right-click any bin in Video Capture - you'll see the command to Add to Media Pool. * The command won't be available if Vegas isn't open. In contrast to Explorer, the bins act as pointers to the original files, letting you organize your media without affecting the original files. The bins in Video Capture are separate from the bins in Vegas. Bins are saved with each Vegas project file and with each Video Capture file.