Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Edward Troxel · December 9th, 2003, 08:21 AM

Take a look at Issue #12 of my newsletter http://www.jetdv.com/tts

I put the blur on the BOTTOM track and use the cookie cutter to cut a hole in the top track. One advantage of doing it this way is that you can apply multiple cookie cutters to blur multiple areas.

Joe Sacher · December 9th, 2003, 10:23 AM

If you are using blur, then the track being above or below is a matter of preference. I prefer to use pixelation, which works better on the top layer. If you cookie cut after the pixelization, you get a perfectly cut section, which looks strange. So you want to cookie cut before you apply the pixelization. This makes the edges get the same effect and obscures the division between the two layers.

Tom Voigt · December 9th, 2003, 06:05 PM

Hi, I'm a newbie to DVD Architect.

Here's what I want to do. I have a dance concert with multiple pieces which so far have been rendered as individual MPEG's. I want a DVD that either allows a selection of individual pieces or plays the entire concert from start to finish including start and end credits.

Does DVD Architect have a play after function to link the mpeg's, or do I have to generate a humongous 80 minute single MPEG with markers for the individual pieces that I do scene selections for?

I looked for linking but didn't find it, which appears to put DVD Architect one down on Dazzle DVD Complete!!

Related question: Is there any quality hit from re-rendering an MPEG file if the bit rates, etc are unchanged? I will use my previous renders to make my humongous MPEG if needed. This is also useful to avoid a complete re-render if you correct a mispelled a name in the closing credits, etc.

Thanks!

-Tom-

Edward Troxel · December 9th, 2003, 09:48 PM

Right now, you MUST create a single MPG file consisting of the entire program. That is the only way to play the entire program straight through.

However, within that program you can specify chapters that have starting and ending points meaning you can create buttons that play an individual segment.

Fernando Vidal · December 9th, 2003, 11:08 PM

What are the settings people use in Vegas to edit 16:9 shot with the anamorphic converter? How to print to tape letterboxed (I get heavy smearing). Thanks for your help!

Tom Voigt · December 10th, 2003, 01:06 AM

Thanks. I am in the midst of building that big mpeg now.

So DVD Architect doesn't have a feature that I took for granted in Movie Factory 2 and Dazzle DVD Complete? But then neither of them have widescreen or AC3 sound......

Edward Troxel · December 10th, 2003, 08:17 AM

No. DVDA does NOT have end actions. I look for this to be remedied in the next version but have no guarantees that will happen.

As Sony posted a while back: They would rather release a solid product that doesn't crash instead of trying to cram in all kinds of features without the time to make those features solid. As Vegas has increased in power with each release, I would expect the same with DVDA.

Rob Lohman · December 10th, 2003, 08:53 AM

To the best of my knowledge your project aspect settings should
match your output aspect settings. So if you output for 16:9
set project to 16:9 as well (you can change this while in the middle
of a project).

The aspect ratio on the footage is to let Vegas know what aspect
the footage is IN. Not what it should go to. Pictures have an
aspect of 1.0.

Fernando Vidal · December 10th, 2003, 11:38 AM

http://supersorteos.com/b.htm

Rob Lohman · December 10th, 2003, 03:20 PM

Did you shoot the footage in interlaced or progressive? What
project and output settings are you using? I'm pretty sure you
have either of these two wrong and they are definitely not using
the same settings. If your footage is progressive you should
have the project and export settings as progressive as well!

Joe Sacher · December 10th, 2003, 03:43 PM

It looks like an interlacing issue to me as well. Make sure that you right-click on the media in Vegas and tell it that the aspect ratio is widescreen (1.2121). If it was shot with an adaptor, Vegas most likely thinks it is 4:3. Then you need to make sure it deinterlaces when converting to 4:3 letterboxed. It looks like the project settings are set to no deinterlacing when rendering.

Fernando Vidal · December 10th, 2003, 04:11 PM

Thanks for your replies. All the settings are set to progressive: in the project properties, in the clip on the timeline and in the output.
I have tried, with rendering with and without the pulldown, widescreen and all the settings, but always leaving the progressive on...I also changed the deinterlacing to the three available options, and the same results...
I don't know what else to do at this point...thanks again

Rob Lohman · December 10th, 2003, 04:14 PM

And you also did shoot progressive? With what camera?

Fernando Vidal · December 10th, 2003, 04:15 PM

With the dvx100, 24 progressive advanced

Fernando Vidal · December 10th, 2003, 04:39 PM

Rob, I think the mistery is resolved...I was shooting using the scene file F5 which is were I have storaged 24 progressive. But I have just realized that when I access the settings, it does not show the setting for the F5, but for the F1 which is interlaced! So I shot everything interlaced although the setting was set in F5! which still has the progressive mode...anyway, thanks so much for making me sure that I was shooting progressive!

December 9th, 2003, 06:05 PM	#1683
Tom Voigt Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 92	Play After Function to Link MPEG's in DVD Architect? Hi, I'm a newbie to DVD Architect. Here's what I want to do. I have a dance concert with multiple pieces which so far have been rendered as individual MPEG's. I want a DVD that either allows a selection of individual pieces or plays the entire concert from start to finish including start and end credits. Does DVD Architect have a play after function to link the mpeg's, or do I have to generate a humongous 80 minute single MPEG with markers for the individual pieces that I do scene selections for? I looked for linking but didn't find it, which appears to put DVD Architect one down on Dazzle DVD Complete!! Related question: Is there any quality hit from re-rendering an MPEG file if the bit rates, etc are unchanged? I will use my previous renders to make my humongous MPEG if needed. This is also useful to avoid a complete re-render if you correct a mispelled a name in the closing credits, etc. Thanks! -Tom-

December 9th, 2003, 11:08 PM	#1685
Fernando Vidal New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 11	Please help editing 16:9 What are the settings people use in Vegas to edit 16:9 shot with the anamorphic converter? How to print to tape letterboxed (I get heavy smearing). Thanks for your help!

December 10th, 2003, 01:06 AM	#1686
Tom Voigt Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 92	Oops! Thanks. I am in the midst of building that big mpeg now. So DVD Architect doesn't have a feature that I took for granted in Movie Factory 2 and Dazzle DVD Complete? But then neither of them have widescreen or AC3 sound......

December 10th, 2003, 08:53 AM	#1688
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	To the best of my knowledge your project aspect settings should match your output aspect settings. So if you output for 16:9 set project to 16:9 as well (you can change this while in the middle of a project). The aspect ratio on the footage is to let Vegas know what aspect the footage is IN. Not what it should go to. Pictures have an aspect of 1.0. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 10th, 2003, 11:38 AM	#1689
Fernando Vidal New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 11	Here are some examples. http://supersorteos.com/b.htm

December 9th, 2003, 08:21 AM	#1681
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Take a look at Issue #12 of my newsletter http://www.jetdv.com/tts I put the blur on the BOTTOM track and use the cookie cutter to cut a hole in the top track. One advantage of doing it this way is that you can apply multiple cookie cutters to blur multiple areas.

December 9th, 2003, 10:23 AM	#1682
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	If you are using blur, then the track being above or below is a matter of preference. I prefer to use pixelation, which works better on the top layer. If you cookie cut after the pixelization, you get a perfectly cut section, which looks strange. So you want to cookie cut before you apply the pixelization. This makes the edges get the same effect and obscures the division between the two layers.

December 9th, 2003, 09:48 PM	#1684
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Right now, you MUST create a single MPG file consisting of the entire program. That is the only way to play the entire program straight through. However, within that program you can specify chapters that have starting and ending points meaning you can create buttons that play an individual segment.

December 10th, 2003, 08:17 AM	#1687
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	No. DVDA does NOT have end actions. I look for this to be remedied in the next version but have no guarantees that will happen. As Sony posted a while back: They would rather release a solid product that doesn't crash instead of trying to cram in all kinds of features without the time to make those features solid. As Vegas has increased in power with each release, I would expect the same with DVDA.

December 10th, 2003, 03:20 PM	#1690
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Did you shoot the footage in interlaced or progressive? What project and output settings are you using? I'm pretty sure you have either of these two wrong and they are definitely not using the same settings. If your footage is progressive you should have the project and export settings as progressive as well! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 10th, 2003, 03:43 PM	#1691
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	It looks like an interlacing issue to me as well. Make sure that you right-click on the media in Vegas and tell it that the aspect ratio is widescreen (1.2121). If it was shot with an adaptor, Vegas most likely thinks it is 4:3. Then you need to make sure it deinterlaces when converting to 4:3 letterboxed. It looks like the project settings are set to no deinterlacing when rendering.

December 10th, 2003, 04:11 PM	#1692
Fernando Vidal New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 11	Thanks for your replies. All the settings are set to progressive: in the project properties, in the clip on the timeline and in the output. I have tried, with rendering with and without the pulldown, widescreen and all the settings, but always leaving the progressive on...I also changed the deinterlacing to the three available options, and the same results... I don't know what else to do at this point...thanks again

December 10th, 2003, 04:14 PM	#1693
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	And you also did shoot progressive? With what camera? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 10th, 2003, 04:15 PM	#1694
Fernando Vidal New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 11	With the dvx100, 24 progressive advanced

December 10th, 2003, 04:39 PM	#1695
Fernando Vidal New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 11	Rob, I think the mistery is resolved...I was shooting using the scene file F5 which is were I have storaged 24 progressive. But I have just realized that when I access the settings, it does not show the setting for the F5, but for the F1 which is interlaced! So I shot everything interlaced although the setting was set in F5! which still has the progressive mode...anyway, thanks so much for making me sure that I was shooting progressive!