Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Brian Sumpter · November 25th, 2003, 02:05 PM

Insert a velocity envelope on the clip, and pull it down into the negative numbers. :)

Hope this helps!

Josh Bass · November 25th, 2003, 02:32 PM

I know that part, the part I have trouble with is getting the right piece of footage to be reversed when it's all said and done. . .the beginning and end of the reversed clip are never where they're supposed to be.

Mike Moncrief · November 25th, 2003, 02:39 PM

Hi Josh,

I have done this recently, and encountered a similar problem.. If you trim a piece of video in the trimming window, and then place it on the timeline, apply your reverse velocity envelope it will not display just the trimmed video in reverse... The way I got around it, was clear the timeline, load the piece of video, trim it up, then render out that piece of video that you wiah to reverse as a new clip.. then go back to your project, load in the newly rendered clip that is exactly the right lenght, and apply your revers velocity envelope..

Mike m.

Josh Bass · November 25th, 2003, 03:20 PM

That makes sense. . .

Joe Sacher · November 25th, 2003, 03:20 PM

The easiest way to do this is to figure out where you want the reversed clip to start. (The end of the clip before you reverse it.) Now split the event there. Now set the velocity envelope to a negative number. This will start at your split point and go backwards. Then split the event (or drag the right edge) until you get to the out point you want.

Josh Bass · November 25th, 2003, 03:51 PM

You have to split it? It's not the same as just trimming it down?

Joe Sacher · November 25th, 2003, 04:17 PM

I never use the trimmer. I haven't found something I can't do quicker by just zooming in quick with the wheel mouse. Any way you do it (splitting, dragging and edge, trimmer), you need an event that starts right at the end of what you want to reverse.

Joe Sacher · November 25th, 2003, 04:23 PM

You can definitely start out with Screenblast. You might want to check what the upgrade price is to Vegas and see what the extra cost will be to start low and upgrade later. A friend of mine received a competing product discount of $100 when upgrading to Vegas from Premiere. This was just before the software changed to Sony ownership, so I don't know the staus of this. I alos don't know if your software will qualify for that.

Screenblast will do all that many people need. I can't speak as a entry level video editor, but every time I'm in Vegas, I do use at least one of the features that are only available in Vegas.

Peter Wright · November 25th, 2003, 09:05 PM

Yes, as Joe says, you have to "think backwards"

- here's another method - first find the point where you want to FINISH, place a temporary marker there, then go ahead to where you want the reverse to START and place another marker.

Split or drag ends to make your event fit between the markers and apply the minus velocity envelope.

Edward Troxel · November 25th, 2003, 10:23 PM

Screenblast is the "little brother" to Vegas. Consider it a "Vegas lite".

Vegas is much more powerful than Screenblast although Screenblast DOES have a couple of features NOT in Vegas (such as swf output)

Edward Troxel · November 25th, 2003, 10:27 PM

If you do a search I did a full explanation of this.

Play the clip until you get to the end (what you now want at the beginning) of the clip.

Stop and press "S" (or trim to that point - really doesn't make a difference)

Apply the velocity envelope to the clip on the RIGHT side of the cursor and delete the clip on the left side of the cursor.

Set the proper velocity.

Change the length and position of the reversed clip as needed.

Dan Measel · November 25th, 2003, 10:58 PM

Currently in Vegas when I apply a velocity envelope to an event I am not getting the green line down the center of the event I usually do. I assume, like most of my Vegas problems, there is a simple solution, something I have inadvertently clicked. Anyone know what I can do to fix this?

Peter Wright · November 25th, 2003, 11:48 PM

Check under View > Video Envelopes > Event Velocity

Andrew Petrie · November 26th, 2003, 11:23 AM

I just don't like how all of the Envelopes can overlap one another. when you first insert them I often have a Fade to Color envelope on a track, then want to add a velocity envelope only to have it appear behind the Fade, and I have to turn off Fade to get to adjust the Velocity, then turn it back on, etc... A bit time consuming when you get creative with envelopes.

It'd be nice to have a small vertical indent caption thingy, one for each type of envelope that you can mouse click on to select the envelope you want to use if they are tight together.

Joe Sacher · November 26th, 2003, 12:53 PM

You can do a couple things. One is to drag the track taller, giving you a wider area to see the envelopes in. Also, once you click on a "free" node, the nodes for that envelope come to the front. I do this all the time with volume and pan envelopes.

November 25th, 2003, 02:32 PM	#1592
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	I know that part, the part I have trouble with is getting the right piece of footage to be reversed when it's all said and done. . .the beginning and end of the reversed clip are never where they're supposed to be. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

November 25th, 2003, 02:39 PM	#1593
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hi Josh, I have done this recently, and encountered a similar problem.. If you trim a piece of video in the trimming window, and then place it on the timeline, apply your reverse velocity envelope it will not display just the trimmed video in reverse... The way I got around it, was clear the timeline, load the piece of video, trim it up, then render out that piece of video that you wiah to reverse as a new clip.. then go back to your project, load in the newly rendered clip that is exactly the right lenght, and apply your revers velocity envelope.. Mike m. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

November 25th, 2003, 03:20 PM	#1594
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	That makes sense. . . __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

November 25th, 2003, 03:51 PM	#1596
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	You have to split it? It's not the same as just trimming it down? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

November 25th, 2003, 10:58 PM	#1602
Dan Measel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 196	Velocity envelope question Currently in Vegas when I apply a velocity envelope to an event I am not getting the green line down the center of the event I usually do. I assume, like most of my Vegas problems, there is a simple solution, something I have inadvertently clicked. Anyone know what I can do to fix this?

November 25th, 2003, 02:05 PM	#1591
Brian Sumpter New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Greeneville, TN Posts: 14	Insert a velocity envelope on the clip, and pull it down into the negative numbers. :) Hope this helps!

November 25th, 2003, 03:20 PM	#1595
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	The easiest way to do this is to figure out where you want the reversed clip to start. (The end of the clip before you reverse it.) Now split the event there. Now set the velocity envelope to a negative number. This will start at your split point and go backwards. Then split the event (or drag the right edge) until you get to the out point you want.

November 25th, 2003, 04:17 PM	#1597
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	I never use the trimmer. I haven't found something I can't do quicker by just zooming in quick with the wheel mouse. Any way you do it (splitting, dragging and edge, trimmer), you need an event that starts right at the end of what you want to reverse.

November 25th, 2003, 04:23 PM	#1598
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	You can definitely start out with Screenblast. You might want to check what the upgrade price is to Vegas and see what the extra cost will be to start low and upgrade later. A friend of mine received a competing product discount of $100 when upgrading to Vegas from Premiere. This was just before the software changed to Sony ownership, so I don't know the staus of this. I alos don't know if your software will qualify for that. Screenblast will do all that many people need. I can't speak as a entry level video editor, but every time I'm in Vegas, I do use at least one of the features that are only available in Vegas.

November 25th, 2003, 09:05 PM	#1599
Peter Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 193	Yes, as Joe says, you have to "think backwards" - here's another method - first find the point where you want to FINISH, place a temporary marker there, then go ahead to where you want the reverse to START and place another marker. Split or drag ends to make your event fit between the markers and apply the minus velocity envelope.

November 25th, 2003, 10:23 PM	#1600
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Screenblast is the "little brother" to Vegas. Consider it a "Vegas lite". Vegas is much more powerful than Screenblast although Screenblast DOES have a couple of features NOT in Vegas (such as swf output)

November 25th, 2003, 10:27 PM	#1601
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you do a search I did a full explanation of this. Play the clip until you get to the end (what you now want at the beginning) of the clip. Stop and press "S" (or trim to that point - really doesn't make a difference) Apply the velocity envelope to the clip on the RIGHT side of the cursor and delete the clip on the left side of the cursor. Set the proper velocity. Change the length and position of the reversed clip as needed.

November 25th, 2003, 11:48 PM	#1603
Peter Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 193	Check under View > Video Envelopes > Event Velocity

November 26th, 2003, 11:23 AM	#1604
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	I just don't like how all of the Envelopes can overlap one another. when you first insert them I often have a Fade to Color envelope on a track, then want to add a velocity envelope only to have it appear behind the Fade, and I have to turn off Fade to get to adjust the Velocity, then turn it back on, etc... A bit time consuming when you get creative with envelopes. It'd be nice to have a small vertical indent caption thingy, one for each type of envelope that you can mouse click on to select the envelope you want to use if they are tight together. __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)

November 26th, 2003, 12:53 PM	#1605
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	You can do a couple things. One is to drag the track taller, giving you a wider area to see the envelopes in. Also, once you click on a "free" node, the nodes for that envelope come to the front. I do this all the time with volume and pan envelopes.