h.264 rendering problem :( at DVinfo.net

William Barber · January 17th, 2006, 08:18 PM

I've upgraded to 6.0c and everytime I try to render using the h.264 codec, I get

"An error occured creating the media file ________.mov

An error occured while converting with a codec"

What might be the problem?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Paul Carlberg · April 25th, 2006, 07:50 AM

William,

Did Sony or anyone get back to you with a solution to this rendering error?

I am getting same error. Tried rendering to Quicktime via any template with a custom video compression format of "h.264", and it will fail. For me, Quicktime will not render period unless at the default template setting. Needless to say, rendering at the default template setting w/custom video compression at H.264, fails immediately.

I do not advocate anyone trying to render at QT/H.264 unless there is a fix that I am unaware of.

Thanks
Paul Carlberg
highplainsdv.com

Emre Safak · April 25th, 2006, 08:22 AM

Isn't 6.0d out?

Paul Carlberg · April 25th, 2006, 08:30 AM

Emre, yes and for the record, I upgraded to 6.0d build 210. I am about to reinstall 6.0c from the box, just to see if QT renders. I do not distribute my clips exclusively in QT, therefore any rendering will work for me, however, this could be a software bug. I will post if I reinstall from scratch. Thx.

Peter Jefferson · April 25th, 2006, 08:56 AM

guys, ive never had a problem with rendering h.264. but one thing to not is taht if u have other NLEs or transcoding tools in there, those codecs will be visible to vegas as well, however they wont work... in my case, i have edius installed, and whenever i go to render an AVI it takes abotu a minute to bring up the custom video settings prior to rendering. without edius, its instant..
ANother thing to note, is whether or not u have QT7pro installed.. i have it and i havent hada problem, but i have heard afew people with ths issue who dont have QT7... went out and bought the bugger and now thingsa re ok with them.. thing is you shouldnt have to buy another application to have acess to a codec which vegas is advertised to offer..

id say get int ouch with SMS and bombard them for support..

this kinda thing shouldnt happen

Paul Carlberg · April 25th, 2006, 09:35 AM

As an aside, I am not having much luck rendering any Windows Media template at a custom WMV9 "Image V2" compression format (whatever this is, and how it differs from std V9, I don't know). I guess its my day to beat up Vegas :^)

I don't really plan to test all combinations of render formats under all custom settings, (not sure if I expect Sony software test group to do likewise, although perhaps they could), I just think that a strong majority of included rendering options should work together if they are included in drop-down menus.

Per Peter's post, unfortunately I do not have a pro version of QT. Wish I did I suppose.

Paul C.
High Plains DV

Seth Bloombaum · April 25th, 2006, 10:12 AM

Back to basics - QT renders require an installation of the free quicktime ***with authoring components***.

If you've not done much QT rendering from Vegas, it's possible you don't have all the software you need.

First thing to try is a fresh download from http://www.apple.com/quicktime/win.html and be sure to specify "with authoring components", not the simple and easy QT installation.

Paul Carlberg · April 25th, 2006, 10:52 AM

Seth, Can't seem to find what you are referring to. Downloaded free (not pro) QT version and the only authoring components I can locate seem to be VAR add-ons. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/resou...authoring.html
Is this what you are referring to?

My download (Itunes based?) didn't appear to provide "authoring" support.
Paul

Seth Bloombaum · April 25th, 2006, 03:17 PM

That's a big "oops"!

Apparently this choice ended with QT7 installs - I just reinstalled and confirmed your experience with the QT7 Player standalone installer.

Fortunately, I didn't break Vegas' ability to render QT.

I'm confused by all this, and unable to provide the guidance I'd like. Both my editing machines pre-date QT7, they were configured by the old rules with QT Authoring Components that came free with the player, but you had to check a box during the install to get them.

Now, I don't really know if Qt7 player is or is not installing authoring components.

You might try the QT install that came on your Vegas CDs... or maybe this isn't the issue you're experiencing at all. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Seth Bloombaum · April 26th, 2006, 11:24 PM

Don't know if this will help, but there are older versions of quicktime available for download here:
http://search.info.apple.com/?q=quic...o&type=kbdload

Brian Shircliffe · April 27th, 2006, 03:05 AM

Go get these codecs.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow

You wont need to look for codecs anymore. Just keep it updated. There is already a setting for H.264 and h.264lossless already to go.

Enjoy... I get perfect playback at a fraction of the bandwidth. and the quality if just as good IF NOT BETTER than MPEG-2.

Also I noticed that a H.264 file with around 1Mbps looks as good as a 5-8Mbps Mpeg-2 even with lots of motion. Maybe this is something to be addressed on another thread?

January 17th, 2006, 08:18 PM	#1
William Barber Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 32	h.264 rendering problem :( I've upgraded to 6.0c and everytime I try to render using the h.264 codec, I get "An error occured creating the media file ________.mov An error occured while converting with a codec" What might be the problem? Thanks in advance for your help.

April 27th, 2006, 03:05 AM	#11
Brian Shircliffe New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6	Ffdshow Go get these codecs. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow You wont need to look for codecs anymore. Just keep it updated. There is already a setting for H.264 and h.264lossless already to go. Enjoy... I get perfect playback at a fraction of the bandwidth. and the quality if just as good IF NOT BETTER than MPEG-2. Also I noticed that a H.264 file with around 1Mbps looks as good as a 5-8Mbps Mpeg-2 even with lots of motion. Maybe this is something to be addressed on another thread?

April 25th, 2006, 07:50 AM	#2
Paul Carlberg Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aurora, Colorado Posts: 41	William, Did Sony or anyone get back to you with a solution to this rendering error? I am getting same error. Tried rendering to Quicktime via any template with a custom video compression format of "h.264", and it will fail. For me, Quicktime will not render period unless at the default template setting. Needless to say, rendering at the default template setting w/custom video compression at H.264, fails immediately. I do not advocate anyone trying to render at QT/H.264 unless there is a fix that I am unaware of. Thanks Paul Carlberg highplainsdv.com

April 25th, 2006, 08:22 AM	#3
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Isn't 6.0d out?

April 25th, 2006, 08:30 AM	#4
Paul Carlberg Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aurora, Colorado Posts: 41	Emre, yes and for the record, I upgraded to 6.0d build 210. I am about to reinstall 6.0c from the box, just to see if QT renders. I do not distribute my clips exclusively in QT, therefore any rendering will work for me, however, this could be a software bug. I will post if I reinstall from scratch. Thx.

April 25th, 2006, 08:56 AM	#5
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	guys, ive never had a problem with rendering h.264. but one thing to not is taht if u have other NLEs or transcoding tools in there, those codecs will be visible to vegas as well, however they wont work... in my case, i have edius installed, and whenever i go to render an AVI it takes abotu a minute to bring up the custom video settings prior to rendering. without edius, its instant.. ANother thing to note, is whether or not u have QT7pro installed.. i have it and i havent hada problem, but i have heard afew people with ths issue who dont have QT7... went out and bought the bugger and now thingsa re ok with them.. thing is you shouldnt have to buy another application to have acess to a codec which vegas is advertised to offer.. id say get int ouch with SMS and bombard them for support.. this kinda thing shouldnt happen

April 25th, 2006, 09:35 AM	#6
Paul Carlberg Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aurora, Colorado Posts: 41	As an aside, I am not having much luck rendering any Windows Media template at a custom WMV9 "Image V2" compression format (whatever this is, and how it differs from std V9, I don't know). I guess its my day to beat up Vegas :^) I don't really plan to test all combinations of render formats under all custom settings, (not sure if I expect Sony software test group to do likewise, although perhaps they could), I just think that a strong majority of included rendering options should work together if they are included in drop-down menus. Per Peter's post, unfortunately I do not have a pro version of QT. Wish I did I suppose. Paul C. High Plains DV

April 25th, 2006, 10:12 AM	#7
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Back to basics - QT renders require an installation of the free quicktime *with authoring components*. If you've not done much QT rendering from Vegas, it's possible you don't have all the software you need. First thing to try is a fresh download from http://www.apple.com/quicktime/win.html and be sure to specify "with authoring components", not the simple and easy QT installation.

April 25th, 2006, 10:52 AM	#8
Paul Carlberg Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aurora, Colorado Posts: 41	Seth, Can't seem to find what you are referring to. Downloaded free (not pro) QT version and the only authoring components I can locate seem to be VAR add-ons. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/resou...authoring.html Is this what you are referring to? My download (Itunes based?) didn't appear to provide "authoring" support. Paul

April 25th, 2006, 03:17 PM	#9
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	That's a big "oops"! Apparently this choice ended with QT7 installs - I just reinstalled and confirmed your experience with the QT7 Player standalone installer. Fortunately, I didn't break Vegas' ability to render QT. I'm confused by all this, and unable to provide the guidance I'd like. Both my editing machines pre-date QT7, they were configured by the old rules with QT Authoring Components that came free with the player, but you had to check a box during the install to get them. Now, I don't really know if Qt7 player is or is not installing authoring components. You might try the QT install that came on your Vegas CDs... or maybe this isn't the issue you're experiencing at all. Sorry I can't be of more help.

April 26th, 2006, 11:24 PM	#10
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Don't know if this will help, but there are older versions of quicktime available for download here: http://search.info.apple.com/?q=quic...o&type=kbdload