How do I switch from PP to Veg, mid-project at DVinfo.net

Paul Cascio · January 12th, 2006, 08:41 PM

I have a project that was started in Premiere, but I drank the orange Kool-Aid and now want to transfer everything to Vegas.

All of the rough cuts are on the time line in PP, but no transtions have be added yet so I figure it shouldn't be too tough. What would the best workflow be to make the switch?

Thanks

Mike Kujbida · January 12th, 2006, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cascio

What would the best workflow be to make the switch?

One way to do it would be a "print to tape" of your PP timeline, import this into Vegas and continue on. The drawback here is that you wouldn't be able to make any changes to the PP footage so make sure that your rough cut has some heads & tails (extra footage) on each clip, just in case.

Mike

Paul Cascio · January 12th, 2006, 09:18 PM

I was hoping for an import option

Mike Kujbida · January 12th, 2006, 09:55 PM

Sorry Paul but AFAIK Vegas, like a lot of low end NLEs) is kind of weak as far as importing and exporting EDLs is concerned.
I have no idea if PP has and EDL export (I think straight text is preferred) but, what the heck, it's worth a try.

Rob Lohman · January 13th, 2006, 01:30 AM

Normally the advice is don't. Do not convert / upgrade or change anything
during a project. To make sure you can finish it on time. This is of course
most important if there is money and deadlines involved. If it is just your
personal project then it may be an option. However, it'll still cost you lots
of time probably. If there aren't that many cuts perhaps you can simply
redo them?

Good luck!

Glenn Chan · January 13th, 2006, 01:46 AM

with the latest versions of both programs, try AAF export/import? Or XML? Or EDL?

Edward Troxel · January 13th, 2006, 09:00 AM

Just try all of the methods above noting the limitations. AAF is supposed to be the best method to try. However, I'd try the others as well if AAF doesn't work. Worst case is the print to tape/recapture method.

Matt Brabender · January 13th, 2006, 11:07 PM

I agree with the above.
When moving projects into and out of Vegas, I found AAF to be the most reliable.

Larry Sullivan · January 13th, 2006, 11:11 PM

Why would you print to tape, just render(export) and import

Edward Troxel · January 14th, 2006, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Sullivan

Why would you print to tape, just render(export) and import

You would import the EDITED video into Vegas for additional editing. However, all "current" edits would no longer be easily changed (which I am assuming is NOT what you want). Definitely the LAST option to use.

Elton Wishart · January 14th, 2006, 07:56 AM

Can Premiere render an individual clip as an .avi? If so, you could render each clip as an .avi and then import them into Vegas in the same order, although this would probably be extremely time consuming, especially if it's a longer project.

Paul Cascio · January 14th, 2006, 12:45 PM

I'm going to try AAf. Elstons idea is also good. I want to preserve the individuality of the clips since I don't have transitions in yet.

January 12th, 2006, 08:41 PM	#1
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	How do I switch from PP to Veg, mid-project I have a project that was started in Premiere, but I drank the orange Kool-Aid and now want to transfer everything to Vegas. All of the rough cuts are on the time line in PP, but no transtions have be added yet so I figure it shouldn't be too tough. What would the best workflow be to make the switch? Thanks __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

January 12th, 2006, 09:18 PM	#3
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	I was hoping for an import option I was hoping for an import option __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

January 13th, 2006, 01:30 AM	#5
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Normally the advice is don't. Do not convert / upgrade or change anything during a project. To make sure you can finish it on time. This is of course most important if there is money and deadlines involved. If it is just your personal project then it may be an option. However, it'll still cost you lots of time probably. If there aren't that many cuts perhaps you can simply redo them? Good luck! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 13th, 2006, 09:00 AM	#7
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Just try all of the methods above noting the limitations. AAF is supposed to be the best method to try. However, I'd try the others as well if AAF doesn't work. Worst case is the print to tape/recapture method. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 14th, 2006, 12:45 PM	#12
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	Good ideas, thanks I'm going to try AAf. Elstons idea is also good. I want to preserve the individuality of the clips since I don't have transitions in yet. __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

January 12th, 2006, 09:55 PM	#4
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Sorry Paul but AFAIK Vegas, like a lot of low end NLEs) is kind of weak as far as importing and exporting EDLs is concerned. I have no idea if PP has and EDL export (I think straight text is preferred) but, what the heck, it's worth a try.

January 13th, 2006, 01:46 AM	#6
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	with the latest versions of both programs, try AAF export/import? Or XML? Or EDL?

January 13th, 2006, 11:07 PM	#8
Matt Brabender Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 230	I agree with the above. When moving projects into and out of Vegas, I found AAF to be the most reliable.

January 13th, 2006, 11:11 PM	#9
Larry Sullivan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	Why would you print to tape, just render(export) and import

January 14th, 2006, 07:56 AM	#11
Elton Wishart New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Posts: 20	Can Premiere render an individual clip as an .avi? If so, you could render each clip as an .avi and then import them into Vegas in the same order, although this would probably be extremely time consuming, especially if it's a longer project.