Vegas users favorite titlers at DVinfo.net

Curt Coggns · December 31st, 2005, 06:04 PM

I'd like to get a feel for what titling program Vegas users prefer. I'm looking for something relatively straightforward but with potential for more elaborate titling. A relatively flat learning curve would be nice. What are the preferences.
Curt

Michael Wisniewski · December 31st, 2005, 06:17 PM

I use Photoshop + Vegas.

Don Bloom · December 31st, 2005, 06:59 PM

I've been using Bluff Titler for quite a while now and really like the simplicity and the quality. The new version has some nice new extras. Take a look at it at www.blufftitler.us

Don

Peter Jefferson · January 1st, 2006, 07:21 AM

"I've been using Bluff Titler for quite a while now and really like the simplicity and the quality. The new version has some nice new extras. Take a look at it at www.blufftitler.us
Don"

Bluff is incredible for the money.. on top of that it supports almost any resolution u can throw at it, for HDV work, i use custom resolutions, render to a targa sequence with transpaency, then let vegas do the rest...

superfast and a great workflow with the added benefits of ALMOST realtime rendering...

John Rofrano · January 1st, 2006, 12:41 PM

Define “more elaborate titling”. What do you need that the Vegas titler doesn’t do? I use the titler in Vegas. Unless you’re producing Monday Night Football or Used Car commercials it’s a perfectly adequate titler.

Cayman Graphics makes an excellent titler. Bluff Titler is OK depending on what you want to do. Boris Graffiti LTD that comes free with Vegas is a very capable titler and you already have it for free. I have a Boris Graffiti Tutorial on my web site that will get you up and running quickly with Boris.

Like I said, I just use the Vegas titler for 99% of my work and it does a fine job. Use compositing with a mask and motion backgrounds for some very interesting animated titles. It just doesn’t do 3D. When I need 3D titles I use Cinema 4D.

~jr

Peter Jefferson · January 1st, 2006, 10:44 PM

I also agree with Jon here.. my titles for weddings are similar to movie credits whereby video plays and we have a seqence rolling through with names etc...

Vegas titling has ALWYAS worked perfectly for this.. shadows, motion, ease of implementation and the fact that i can use a transition to roll them in, aves alot of rendering time..

if u need 3d stuff etc, then Bluff is good, never tried Cinema4d, but for what i do even bluff can be overkill sometimes..

John Rofrano · January 2nd, 2006, 11:38 AM

Oh. Cinema4D is way overkill for titles. It’s a 3D modeling program like Maya, 3D Studio Max, Lightware, etc. I would not recommend Cinema4D for title work. I should have made that clear (sorry). I use Cinema4D for other 3D work and it also makes a killer titler. (but not for the faint of heart) ;-)

I use to use Ulead Cool 3D which is another good 3D titler. Avoid the Cool 3D Production Studio version. It’s a rendering dog! Just get the Cool 3D 3.5 version.

~jr

Curt Coggns · January 2nd, 2006, 03:56 PM

Graffiti looks fine. I am using the Vegas 6.0c demo until my hard copy arrives with Grafitti, Ultimate S, etc. Thanks for the link to the Graffiti tutorial. Just what I'm looking for.
Curt

Yi Fong Yu · February 27th, 2006, 10:04 PM

well, if cost is a factor for cinema4d, try blender3d.org. it's FREE regardless of overkill =).

but isn't it true to keep most titles white text/black background to make it "professonal" like those films?

December 31st, 2005, 06:04 PM	#1
Curt Coggns New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Vegas users favorite titlers I'd like to get a feel for what titling program Vegas users prefer. I'm looking for something relatively straightforward but with potential for more elaborate titling. A relatively flat learning curve would be nice. What are the preferences. Curt

December 31st, 2005, 06:17 PM	#2
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	I use Photoshop + Vegas. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

January 1st, 2006, 12:41 PM	#5
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	Define “more elaborate titling”. What do you need that the Vegas titler doesn’t do? I use the titler in Vegas. Unless you’re producing Monday Night Football or Used Car commercials it’s a perfectly adequate titler. Cayman Graphics makes an excellent titler. Bluff Titler is OK depending on what you want to do. Boris Graffiti LTD that comes free with Vegas is a very capable titler and you already have it for free. I have a Boris Graffiti Tutorial on my web site that will get you up and running quickly with Boris. Like I said, I just use the Vegas titler for 99% of my work and it does a fine job. Use compositing with a mask and motion backgrounds for some very interesting animated titles. It just doesn’t do 3D. When I need 3D titles I use Cinema 4D. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

January 2nd, 2006, 11:38 AM	#7
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	Oh. Cinema4D is way overkill for titles. It’s a 3D modeling program like Maya, 3D Studio Max, Lightware, etc. I would not recommend Cinema4D for title work. I should have made that clear (sorry). I use Cinema4D for other 3D work and it also makes a killer titler. (but not for the faint of heart) ;-) I use to use Ulead Cool 3D which is another good 3D titler. Avoid the Cool 3D Production Studio version. It’s a rendering dog! Just get the Cool 3D 3.5 version. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

February 27th, 2006, 10:04 PM	#9
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	well, if cost is a factor for cinema4d, try blender3d.org. it's FREE regardless of overkill =). but isn't it true to keep most titles white text/black background to make it "professonal" like those films? __________________ bow wow wow

December 31st, 2005, 06:59 PM	#3
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	I've been using Bluff Titler for quite a while now and really like the simplicity and the quality. The new version has some nice new extras. Take a look at it at www.blufftitler.us Don

January 1st, 2006, 07:21 AM	#4
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	"I've been using Bluff Titler for quite a while now and really like the simplicity and the quality. The new version has some nice new extras. Take a look at it at www.blufftitler.us Don" Bluff is incredible for the money.. on top of that it supports almost any resolution u can throw at it, for HDV work, i use custom resolutions, render to a targa sequence with transpaency, then let vegas do the rest... superfast and a great workflow with the added benefits of ALMOST realtime rendering...

January 1st, 2006, 10:44 PM	#6
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	I also agree with Jon here.. my titles for weddings are similar to movie credits whereby video plays and we have a seqence rolling through with names etc... Vegas titling has ALWYAS worked perfectly for this.. shadows, motion, ease of implementation and the fact that i can use a transition to roll them in, aves alot of rendering time.. if u need 3d stuff etc, then Bluff is good, never tried Cinema4d, but for what i do even bluff can be overkill sometimes..

January 2nd, 2006, 03:56 PM	#8
Curt Coggns New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Graffiti looks fine. I am using the Vegas 6.0c demo until my hard copy arrives with Grafitti, Ultimate S, etc. Thanks for the link to the Graffiti tutorial. Just what I'm looking for. Curt