Networking for Vegas 6 at DVinfo.net

DJ Kinney · November 5th, 2005, 12:40 AM

Okay. So the computer geek is finally tired. I just can't play these games any more. I have to ask a question, because problem solving doesn't thrill me as much as it used to.

I finally have another computer and I want to do network renders. One is a laptop, the other, my normal desktop. Both are XP (one Pro, one home) and both are fully outfitted.

What is the best/fastest way to network them. Ethernet cable (if so, how) wireless (if so, must be ad hoc, as I have to router) or perhaps a usb 2.0 connection.

What do you all think? Oh, and a brief explanation of the rudimentary elements of making the network render work.

This should be a heavenly question for a computer nerd who still has the energy to deal with the little silicon beasts.

Newdjeen Klime · November 5th, 2005, 01:49 AM

For two computers only you do not need router, switch, hub or another network device - You can connect computers with a "crossover" cable. After plug cable in to two computers you need adjust them Ethernet controllers on TCP/IP protocol
Why Ethernet it is better, because this most stable connection.
For network rendering you need network licens (One serial number for Vegas with a various activation codes)

PS Sorry 4 my English

DJ Kinney · November 5th, 2005, 01:08 PM

That's O.K. I got the gist of it. Thanks! Basically you're saying an ethernet crossover cable between the two computers and creating a network link will automatically connect them for Vegas.

Does anyone do this? Is it a wonderful boost in speed?

Edward Troxel · November 5th, 2005, 01:17 PM

First of all, not all formats can be network rendered. And for those that can, the benefits are project dependent. If the project has lots of effects, network rendering can help. If you only have a few dissolves here and there, you probably won't see much benefit. So it's really hard to say how much benefit YOU would get from it until you try it with your projects.

DJ Kinney · November 5th, 2005, 02:29 PM

O.K. Thanks. So it doesn't just chop up the workload and distribute the pieces? Say, for rendering a bunch of clips and cuts to a DVDA mpeg.

Because in an ideal world, I was thinking (simplistically) that half the project would be done with one system, the other half on another, assemble and spit out. I guess that's not the case.

Edward Troxel · November 5th, 2005, 03:00 PM

MPEG2 is one of the formats where a single file CANNOT be rendered in pieces on multiple machines. The problem is the stitching point at the end - MPEG2 can't be stitched. However, you COULD use network rendering to set the various machines to individually render separate complete files.

Yi Fong Yu · November 7th, 2005, 02:51 PM

whoa, i didn't know that. i thought MPEG2 could. =). thx Ed.

another question. does this mean all other codex other than MPEG2 can be networked? if not, which ones are and which ones aren't? use the shortest list =).

Edward Troxel · November 7th, 2005, 03:18 PM

You CAN use network rendering to tell another computer on the network to render the file to MPEG2. However, you do not want MULTIPLE computers rendering a single video to MPEG2. See here for more details:
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/for...ssageID=277103

Here's some interesting info:
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/for...ssageID=371431

Yi Fong Yu · November 7th, 2005, 10:13 PM

thx4link =).

November 5th, 2005, 12:40 AM	#1
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	Networking for Vegas 6 Okay. So the computer geek is finally tired. I just can't play these games any more. I have to ask a question, because problem solving doesn't thrill me as much as it used to. I finally have another computer and I want to do network renders. One is a laptop, the other, my normal desktop. Both are XP (one Pro, one home) and both are fully outfitted. What is the best/fastest way to network them. Ethernet cable (if so, how) wireless (if so, must be ad hoc, as I have to router) or perhaps a usb 2.0 connection. What do you all think? Oh, and a brief explanation of the rudimentary elements of making the network render work. This should be a heavenly question for a computer nerd who still has the energy to deal with the little silicon beasts.

November 5th, 2005, 01:49 AM	#2
Newdjeen Klime Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: World Wide Web Posts: 26	For two computers only you do not need router, switch, hub or another network device - You can connect computers with a "crossover" cable. After plug cable in to two computers you need adjust them Ethernet controllers on TCP/IP protocol Why Ethernet it is better, because this most stable connection. For network rendering you need network licens (One serial number for Vegas with a various activation codes) PS Sorry 4 my English __________________ Âû õî÷èòå ôèëüìîâ, èõ åñòü ó ìåíÿ

November 5th, 2005, 01:17 PM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	First of all, not all formats can be network rendered. And for those that can, the benefits are project dependent. If the project has lots of effects, network rendering can help. If you only have a few dissolves here and there, you probably won't see much benefit. So it's really hard to say how much benefit YOU would get from it until you try it with your projects. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 5th, 2005, 03:00 PM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	MPEG2 is one of the formats where a single file CANNOT be rendered in pieces on multiple machines. The problem is the stitching point at the end - MPEG2 can't be stitched. However, you COULD use network rendering to set the various machines to individually render separate complete files. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 7th, 2005, 02:51 PM	#7
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	whoa, i didn't know that. i thought MPEG2 could. =). thx Ed. another question. does this mean all other codex other than MPEG2 can be networked? if not, which ones are and which ones aren't? use the shortest list =). __________________ bow wow wow

November 5th, 2005, 01:08 PM	#3
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	That's O.K. I got the gist of it. Thanks! Basically you're saying an ethernet crossover cable between the two computers and creating a network link will automatically connect them for Vegas. Does anyone do this? Is it a wonderful boost in speed?

November 5th, 2005, 02:29 PM	#5
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	O.K. Thanks. So it doesn't just chop up the workload and distribute the pieces? Say, for rendering a bunch of clips and cuts to a DVDA mpeg. Because in an ideal world, I was thinking (simplistically) that half the project would be done with one system, the other half on another, assemble and spit out. I guess that's not the case.

November 7th, 2005, 03:18 PM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You CAN use network rendering to tell another computer on the network to render the file to MPEG2. However, you do not want MULTIPLE computers rendering a single video to MPEG2. See here for more details: http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/for...ssageID=277103 Here's some interesting info: http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/for...ssageID=371431 __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

November 7th, 2005, 10:13 PM	#9
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	thx4link =). __________________ bow wow wow