Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! at DVinfo.net

Kevin Janisch · July 14th, 2019, 12:48 PM

Just saw Vegas Pro 17 is coming in August. Nested timelines! Yes! I just upgraded from Vegas Pro 12 to 16 two weeks ago and I'm really diggin it. Looks like any buyer of Vegas Pro 16 from now through the end of the month gets a free upgrade to 17. I emailed them asking if I qualify which I should, according to me lol.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/

Juris Lielpeteris · August 5th, 2019, 11:30 AM

Vegas Pro 17 is available now. Upgrade to Vegas Pro Edit costs now 199€.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.co...egas-pro-edit/

Kevin Janisch · August 12th, 2019, 10:41 AM

Well, just watched how Vegas Pro 17 handles nested timelines. Rather let down to be honest. Seems like all it does is speed up the process of embedding other Vegas Projects rather having actual accessible nested timelines within the Project like Premiere Pro does. So basically to modify the "nested" timeline, you have to open up another project.

Adam Stanislav · August 13th, 2019, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Janisch

Well, just watched how Vegas Pro 17 handles nested timelines. Rather let down to be honest. Seems like all it does is speed up the process of embedding other Vegas Projects rather having actual accessible nested timelines within the Project like Premiere Pro does. So basically to modify the "nested" timeline, you have to open up another project.

Makes me feel good I have not upgraded ever since v.15. :)

Edward Troxel · August 15th, 2019, 05:53 PM

It prevents you from needing to open Vegas a second time. It just switches to the other project in that same Vegas instance.

Bob Safay · August 16th, 2019, 04:49 AM

Ed, do you know if Vegas Pro 17 will support HEVC files? Right now DaVinci seems to be the only one that will handle Canon's HEVC. Bob

Patrick Tracy · August 16th, 2019, 11:16 AM

My wish list is:

Routing to allow sidechain compression.

Aux sends on buses that can route to effects buses.

Gain line automation.

Steve Game · August 20th, 2019, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Safay

Ed, do you know if Vegas Pro 17 will support HEVC files? Right now DaVinci seems to be the only one that will handle Canon's HEVC. Bob

According to the Vegas Creative Software Web page, yes it does support HEVC/h265 both as source files and rendering out.

Bob Safay · September 2nd, 2019, 12:37 PM

Steve, thank you. I was hoping that it would. Bob

Sam Houchins II · September 20th, 2019, 08:31 AM

In case it's not obvious to someone else too -
The free trial limits rendering to 2 minute projects, including preventing selective rendering of a <2 min portion within a larger project.
Work done in the free trial can't be opened in an older version.

Duane Adam · November 28th, 2019, 12:21 PM

Anyone using 17 successfully? I’m using with windows 10, 32gb ram and a fast i7 processor but get continuous freezes and crashes. I should add I’m using a lot of 4k video and 8k stills so could be that it just can’t handle the file sizes but my older windows 7 computer didn’t crash as often with 16 using similar files.

I bought it for the slow motion plugin which I like better than twixtor but so far it’s hard to get any work done.

Christopher Young · November 28th, 2019, 11:48 PM

My experience with v17 has been similar to yours but I'm now getting reasonable performance on an OC'd 8700K with a GTX 1080Ti card. The Internal Preferences settings that are getting me there are as outlined in the JPGs below. The File I/O is available under the normal Preferences tab. If you are using 422 10-bit files after the S04 change and have issues then you will more than likely have to revert back to the S04 default setting of TRUE. Let us know how you go. Also sometimes disabling OpenCL can help depending on you machine config but I wouldn't go there yet until you have tried these settings.

Chris Young

Duane Adam · December 3rd, 2019, 02:06 PM

Started by changing the "memory needed by Vegas" from default to 4096. Night and day difference so far.

Christopher Young · December 3rd, 2019, 07:48 PM

Good to hear. Hope it continues that way :)

Chris Young

Robert Garvey · January 17th, 2020, 12:23 AM

[QUOTE=Christopher Young;1955164.....The Internal Preferences settings that are getting me there are as outlined in the JPGs below. The File I/O is available under the normal Preferences tab. If you are using 422 10-bit files after the S04 change and have issues then you will more than likely have to revert back to the S04 default setting of TRUE. ...............
Chris Young[/QUOTE]

Thanks Chris,

Can confirm that Chris's changes make a big difference to HVEC playback in Vegas 17. (I did not change the SO4 setting)

I just purchased a Pana CX350 to shoot UHD50P 10bit hvec files and Vegas 17 would struggle on replay. This was also after updating rig to a i9 9960X series 16 core, RTX2070 super, 64 gig DDR4 and 2x NVMe PCIe inputs and SSD output drives. I thought this rig would nail it :0 And now it does work OK after above changes.

Weird that VLC and KMPlayer both would replay the 50P 10bit HVEC files smoothly, but V17 would not.

July 14th, 2019, 12:48 PM	#1
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! Just saw Vegas Pro 17 is coming in August. Nested timelines! Yes! I just upgraded from Vegas Pro 12 to 16 two weeks ago and I'm really diggin it. Looks like any buyer of Vegas Pro 16 from now through the end of the month gets a free upgrade to 17. I emailed them asking if I qualify which I should, according to me lol. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/ __________________ GH4 + Voigtlander 25mm, Panasonic TM900, Vegas Pro 16, Adobe CC

August 5th, 2019, 11:30 AM	#2
Juris Lielpeteris Major Player Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Riga, Latvija, EU Posts: 292	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! Vegas Pro 17 is available now. Upgrade to Vegas Pro Edit costs now 199€. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.co...egas-pro-edit/

August 12th, 2019, 10:41 AM	#3
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! Well, just watched how Vegas Pro 17 handles nested timelines. Rather let down to be honest. Seems like all it does is speed up the process of embedding other Vegas Projects rather having actual accessible nested timelines within the Project like Premiere Pro does. So basically to modify the "nested" timeline, you have to open up another project. YouTube (Short URL) __________________ GH4 + Voigtlander 25mm, Panasonic TM900, Vegas Pro 16, Adobe CC

August 15th, 2019, 05:53 PM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! It prevents you from needing to open Vegas a second time. It just switches to the other project in that same Vegas instance. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 16th, 2019, 04:49 AM	#6
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! Ed, do you know if Vegas Pro 17 will support HEVC files? Right now DaVinci seems to be the only one that will handle Canon's HEVC. Bob

August 16th, 2019, 11:16 AM	#7
Patrick Tracy Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Lafayette, Colorado Posts: 167	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! My wish list is: Routing to allow sidechain compression. Aux sends on buses that can route to effects buses. Gain line automation. __________________ Boulder Sound Guy website Boulder Sound Guy on YouTube

September 2nd, 2019, 12:37 PM	#9
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! Steve, thank you. I was hoping that it would. Bob

September 20th, 2019, 08:31 AM	#10
Sam Houchins II Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 282	Re: Vegas Pro 17: free trial In case it's not obvious to someone else too - The free trial limits rendering to 2 minute projects, including preventing selective rendering of a <2 min portion within a larger project. Work done in the free trial can't be opened in an older version.

November 28th, 2019, 12:21 PM	#11
Duane Adam Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 398	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! Anyone using 17 successfully? I’m using with windows 10, 32gb ram and a fast i7 processor but get continuous freezes and crashes. I should add I’m using a lot of 4k video and 8k stills so could be that it just can’t handle the file sizes but my older windows 7 computer didn’t crash as often with 16 using similar files. I bought it for the slow motion plugin which I like better than twixtor but so far it’s hard to get any work done.

November 28th, 2019, 11:48 PM	#12
Christopher Young Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,567	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! My experience with v17 has been similar to yours but I'm now getting reasonable performance on an OC'd 8700K with a GTX 1080Ti card. The Internal Preferences settings that are getting me there are as outlined in the JPGs below. The File I/O is available under the normal Preferences tab. If you are using 422 10-bit files after the S04 change and have issues then you will more than likely have to revert back to the S04 default setting of TRUE. Let us know how you go. Also sometimes disabling OpenCL can help depending on you machine config but I wouldn't go there yet until you have tried these settings. Chris Young Attached Thumbnails

December 3rd, 2019, 02:06 PM	#13
Duane Adam Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 398	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! Started by changing the "memory needed by Vegas" from default to 4096. Night and day difference so far.

December 3rd, 2019, 07:48 PM	#14
Christopher Young Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,567	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! Good to hear. Hope it continues that way :) Chris Young

January 17th, 2020, 12:23 AM	#15
Robert Garvey Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 100	Re: Vegas Pro 17 coming in August! NESTED TIMELINES!! [QUOTE=Christopher Young;1955164.....The Internal Preferences settings that are getting me there are as outlined in the JPGs below. The File I/O is available under the normal Preferences tab. If you are using 422 10-bit files after the S04 change and have issues then you will more than likely have to revert back to the S04 default setting of TRUE. ............... Chris Young[/QUOTE] Thanks Chris, Can confirm that Chris's changes make a big difference to HVEC playback in Vegas 17. (I did not change the SO4 setting) I just purchased a Pana CX350 to shoot UHD50P 10bit hvec files and Vegas 17 would struggle on replay. This was also after updating rig to a i9 9960X series 16 core, RTX2070 super, 64 gig DDR4 and 2x NVMe PCIe inputs and SSD output drives. I thought this rig would nail it :0 And now it does work OK after above changes. Weird that VLC and KMPlayer both would replay the 50P 10bit HVEC files smoothly, but V17 would not. __________________ Robert Garvey Photographer www.garvey.com.au