Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect at DVinfo.net

Marcus Martell · June 27th, 2016, 01:24 AM

Hallo guys,
Could you help me with the settings of Vegas 10 to fit 3 hours of DVD in a single 4.7 DVD?
Thank you

Mike Kujbida · June 27th, 2016, 04:48 AM

Interesting that I got the exact same question on another forum when I logged on today :)
Here's the Vegas render settings I get with the bitrate calculator I use. Be advised that if you have a lot of fast motion it may not look that good due to the low bitrate. Render a short segment in Vegas, watch it and see what you think before rendering the entire project.
Audio: AC-3 default of 192
Video: 2-pass VBR render. MAX - 5,976,000, AVG - 2,984,000, MIN - 2,240,000

Juris Lielpeteris · June 27th, 2016, 05:04 AM

For very long DVD it is better to use a smaller frame size (352x576).

Bruce Dempsey · June 27th, 2016, 05:52 AM

If you can manage it, a DLdvd is more likely to provide the space you need for 3 hours
Or do 2 x single 4.7gb dvd as in Part A and Part B

Ron Evans · June 27th, 2016, 06:12 AM

DVDArchitiect does not have the best encoding. If you have TMPGenc it will do a better job with the similar settings to what Mike suggested. Then bring the file into DVDArchitect.

Ron Evans

Jeff Pulera · June 27th, 2016, 08:25 AM

I've done a few different DVD projects that were 3 hours long, and both were talking head/training-type videos and the quality looked just fine using a 4.7GB DVD. Would not try this on a video with a lot of motion though!

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Digital Vision

Marcus Martell · June 29th, 2016, 12:06 AM

Thank u all!!!
What about if i decide to burn 2 dvds from 4,7 gb; in that case what would you suggest me?

Mike Kujbida · June 29th, 2016, 03:15 AM

Still do a 2-pass VBR but use these render settings.
MIN: 3,696,000
AVG: 6,168,000
MAX: 7,712,000

David Stoneburner · June 29th, 2016, 06:30 AM

i have an program that I found years ago called Bitrate calculator. Using 192 dolby digital, it came out to
min 2400
avr 3208
max 6416

Mike Kujbida · June 29th, 2016, 07:54 AM

David, if you're referring to Mark's Bitrate Calculator, that's the same one that I use.
The reason for my lower numbers is that I bump my safety margin up to 5% from the default 1% as I like a bit of extra room, just to be on the safe side :-)
The other change I make is to click the 1 Kilobit = 1,000 bits option (found after clicking "Settings".
If anyone wants it, I keep a copy on my Dropbox account at
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...bitcalc110.zip

David Stoneburner · June 29th, 2016, 08:09 AM

I usually do that as well but just went with the default for his purposes.

Marcus Martell · June 30th, 2016, 01:50 AM

It seems as for maximum average and minimum vbr i have just 3 options:

192000
4200000
9800000

What am i missing?

Leslie Wand · June 30th, 2016, 03:03 AM

putting in your own figures ;-)

Mike Kujbida · June 30th, 2016, 07:50 AM

Leslie is right. Type in your own numbers and save it as a preset for future use. I've got several presets that I use all the time.

Robert Benda · June 30th, 2016, 08:19 AM

Wouldn't a dual layer DVD mean he could avoid the low bitrate issue?

June 27th, 2016, 01:24 AM	#1
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect Hallo guys, Could you help me with the settings of Vegas 10 to fit 3 hours of DVD in a single 4.7 DVD? Thank you

June 27th, 2016, 04:48 AM	#2
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect Interesting that I got the exact same question on another forum when I logged on today :) Here's the Vegas render settings I get with the bitrate calculator I use. Be advised that if you have a lot of fast motion it may not look that good due to the low bitrate. Render a short segment in Vegas, watch it and see what you think before rendering the entire project. Audio: AC-3 default of 192 Video: 2-pass VBR render. MAX - 5,976,000, AVG - 2,984,000, MIN - 2,240,000

June 27th, 2016, 05:04 AM	#3
Juris Lielpeteris Major Player Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Riga, Latvija, EU Posts: 292	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect For very long DVD it is better to use a smaller frame size (352x576).

June 27th, 2016, 05:52 AM	#4
Bruce Dempsey Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlantic Coast Canada Posts: 599	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect If you can manage it, a DLdvd is more likely to provide the space you need for 3 hours Or do 2 x single 4.7gb dvd as in Part A and Part B

June 27th, 2016, 06:12 AM	#5
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect DVDArchitiect does not have the best encoding. If you have TMPGenc it will do a better job with the similar settings to what Mike suggested. Then bring the file into DVDArchitect. Ron Evans

June 27th, 2016, 08:25 AM	#6
Jeff Pulera Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 691	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect I've done a few different DVD projects that were 3 hours long, and both were talking head/training-type videos and the quality looked just fine using a 4.7GB DVD. Would not try this on a video with a lot of motion though! Thanks Jeff Pulera Digital Vision

June 29th, 2016, 12:06 AM	#7
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect Thank u all!!! What about if i decide to burn 2 dvds from 4,7 gb; in that case what would you suggest me?

June 29th, 2016, 03:15 AM	#8
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect Still do a 2-pass VBR but use these render settings. MIN: 3,696,000 AVG: 6,168,000 MAX: 7,712,000

June 29th, 2016, 06:30 AM	#9
David Stoneburner Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 493	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect i have an program that I found years ago called Bitrate calculator. Using 192 dolby digital, it came out to min 2400 avr 3208 max 6416

June 29th, 2016, 07:54 AM	#10
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect David, if you're referring to Mark's Bitrate Calculator, that's the same one that I use. The reason for my lower numbers is that I bump my safety margin up to 5% from the default 1% as I like a bit of extra room, just to be on the safe side :-) The other change I make is to click the 1 Kilobit = 1,000 bits option (found after clicking "Settings". If anyone wants it, I keep a copy on my Dropbox account at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...bitcalc110.zip Attached Thumbnails

June 29th, 2016, 08:09 AM	#11
David Stoneburner Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 493	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect I usually do that as well but just went with the default for his purposes.

June 30th, 2016, 01:50 AM	#12
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect It seems as for maximum average and minimum vbr i have just 3 options: 192000 4200000 9800000 What am i missing?

June 30th, 2016, 03:03 AM	#13
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect putting in your own figures ;-) __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

June 30th, 2016, 07:50 AM	#14
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect Leslie is right. Type in your own numbers and save it as a preset for future use. I've got several presets that I use all the time.

June 30th, 2016, 08:19 AM	#15
Robert Benda Trustee Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Crookston, MN Posts: 1,353	Re: Fit 3 hours in a single DVD with DVD architect Wouldn't a dual layer DVD mean he could avoid the low bitrate issue?