Multi-Camera Editing wiping out Pan/Crop at DVinfo.net

Jeremiah Rickert · June 14th, 2015, 04:15 AM

I had a multiple-camera shoot where one of the static shots was zoomed out too far and slightly skewed. Before I created the multi-camera track in Vegas I zoomed and rotated it slightly so it looked better. However, I had forgotten that once you create the multi-camera track it wipes out all of the adjustments you've made. I know you can use MediaFX to affect an entire clip (even after it's diced up with other camera angles) but is there a way I can use Pan/Crop on every instance of that camera angle at the same time, or am I going to have to go into each one and adjust it? Even with a pre-set in place, in a two hour show, it's going to take a loooong time.

Thanks!

Leslie Wand · June 14th, 2015, 06:15 AM

why not simply apply fx to original and render to intermediary for multi-cam?

Jeremiah Rickert · June 14th, 2015, 09:28 PM

Yeah, looks like either way I would end up re-rendering...something. I spent a lot of time going down the timeline and applying the pan/crop to each instance of that angle last night. Next time I'll probably just fix it, render it out, and use it in the multi-cam as you said.

Mike Kujbida · June 15th, 2015, 09:34 AM

Jeremiah, I can't promise but it looks like Timeline Tools can do this for you after the fact. Definitely worth checking out.
Did I mention that it's free and a great tool :)
Timeline Tools for Sony Vegas Pro

Aleksey Tarasov · June 15th, 2015, 10:10 AM

Paste Event Attributes will do it

Jeremiah Rickert · June 17th, 2015, 03:58 PM

Thanks, I will check that out. I had a job where the provided version of Vegas included some scripting tools and they were pretty handy.. .

The other work-around I was thinking of trying, was putting the video in a vegas project and applying pan crop, and then importing that into my main project. I have used nesting projects before as a way to avoid having to re-render footage too many times.

Mike Kujbida · June 17th, 2015, 07:30 PM

Nesting is a great idea that would definitely work in your situation!!

June 14th, 2015, 04:15 AM	#1
Jeremiah Rickert Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Newberg, Oregon Posts: 494	Multi-Camera Editing wiping out Pan/Crop I had a multiple-camera shoot where one of the static shots was zoomed out too far and slightly skewed. Before I created the multi-camera track in Vegas I zoomed and rotated it slightly so it looked better. However, I had forgotten that once you create the multi-camera track it wipes out all of the adjustments you've made. I know you can use MediaFX to affect an entire clip (even after it's diced up with other camera angles) but is there a way I can use Pan/Crop on every instance of that camera angle at the same time, or am I going to have to go into each one and adjust it? Even with a pre-set in place, in a two hour show, it's going to take a loooong time. Thanks!

June 14th, 2015, 06:15 AM	#2
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: Multi-Camera Editing wiping out Pan/Crop why not simply apply fx to original and render to intermediary for multi-cam? __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

June 14th, 2015, 09:28 PM	#3
Jeremiah Rickert Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Newberg, Oregon Posts: 494	Re: Multi-Camera Editing wiping out Pan/Crop Yeah, looks like either way I would end up re-rendering...something. I spent a lot of time going down the timeline and applying the pan/crop to each instance of that angle last night. Next time I'll probably just fix it, render it out, and use it in the multi-cam as you said.

June 15th, 2015, 09:34 AM	#4
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Multi-Camera Editing wiping out Pan/Crop Jeremiah, I can't promise but it looks like Timeline Tools can do this for you after the fact. Definitely worth checking out. Did I mention that it's free and a great tool :) Timeline Tools for Sony Vegas Pro

June 15th, 2015, 10:10 AM	#5
Aleksey Tarasov New Boot Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: RF Posts: 23	Re: Multi-Camera Editing wiping out Pan/Crop Paste Event Attributes will do it

June 17th, 2015, 03:58 PM	#6
Jeremiah Rickert Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Newberg, Oregon Posts: 494	Re: Multi-Camera Editing wiping out Pan/Crop Thanks, I will check that out. I had a job where the provided version of Vegas included some scripting tools and they were pretty handy.. . The other work-around I was thinking of trying, was putting the video in a vegas project and applying pan crop, and then importing that into my main project. I have used nesting projects before as a way to avoid having to re-render footage too many times.

June 17th, 2015, 07:30 PM	#7
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Multi-Camera Editing wiping out Pan/Crop Nesting is a great idea that would definitely work in your situation!!