Anything akin to FCPX's clip-bins within a project?

[Adjul Gardner]

I've shot my first 1:100 long form movie, with 300+ hours of footage. I use Vegas and up until now have just edited within a single project really messy-style.

Speaking to my director friend, he tells me how FCPX has 'bins' that he uses to separate timelapses from nature shots from dialogue, etc.

From a quick look, Vegas cannot do that. It can only label and organize the actual original media files using 'media bins', but it cannot organize clips within the project.

Are there any suggested workarounds? What do people do? Using separate levels? Can the timeline be permanently segmented vertically somehow to create columns?

Thanks,
Adjul

[Gerald Webb]

Hi Abjul,
Final Cut workflow is different, but can be simulated in Vegas.
Most people when using Vegas doing longer projects break up the movie/project into smaller projects then assemble them into a master project. Similar to Final Cut X and its compound clips.
If you have never used Nesting of Veg files, do a quick Google or search in these forums. People have already explained it better than I can here.

[Rainer Listing]

Vegas is actually great at keeping track of your clips for large projects. The problem is the features are not well documented in the manual or help or people don't look for them. I hope I'm not telling you what you already know, but it might interest someone if I'm on the wrong track. Yes, nesting. You can also group and minimize tracks. If you tag your clips in project media (select in project media and type in a tag name of your choice) Vegas automatically creates a new bin for all clips with that tag. You can create as many tags as you want.You can multiple tag clips, e.g timelapse, nature shots, dialog, and they'll appear in bins with that name. You can also manually create as many additional bins as you want and put the clips and sub clips into single/multiple bins, however you like.

[Adjul Gardner]

What I'm thinking now is that I will nest the projects by doing this:

-Trimming clips down to what I might use and then saving them as their own .veg (for example, I interviewed 10 people with the same question, and I will render a veg file with only their 10 answers to that question on the timeline)

-Importing these topic-masters into the main master, and then tagging/binning them.

I'm planning to start by doing a teaser trailer to familiarize myself with the footage and the workflow, and then go to the long form after that.

I'm also planning to whittle at the footage and trim from 350 hours down to 200>100>50>etc. So I will probably have progressively slimmer masters as I remove more and more of the potential scenes.

Like I said, I've never done this before, and if there's anything that jumps out to people who have, I'd appreciate the feedback.

thanks,
Adjul