New PC for Vegas

Edward Troxel · July 3rd, 2014, 08:36 AM

Leslie, I agree with you. So it may be worth looking at current AMD/ATI cards instead of old nVidia cards. I would steer clear of the Intel HD cards at this time, though.

Andy Tejral · July 7th, 2014, 02:35 PM

Wow! My head is spinning! I read those two old threads and find I really don't know what conclusions to draw.

I looked at a bunch of those sites and they're just too pricey. More than I need I think.

But I was looking at this one: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1045283-REG/hp_f1l58ut_aba_z230_x_e3_1230v3_8gb_500gb_windows7p64_windows8_1p.html
I wanted to stay under $1000 but maybe the added cost is worth it? With 3T internal drive, wifi and card reader--$1300. But well under the $2500 for a custom build.

What do you think?

Leslie Wand · July 7th, 2014, 05:53 PM

andy, what's your main format you're editing - that could be quite a factor in deciding the pc you need. eg. dv you can edit on almost any pc, 4k would be a whole new ballgame....

Andy Tejral · July 7th, 2014, 06:30 PM

Eh... somewhere in between. I do have a lot of DV footage that I still hope to use one day... But various HD formats: HDV, AVCHD and whatever my Canon t4i shoots.

At the moment, I'm just producing for youtube. I've been doing 720p24 to save on upload time. Plenty of quality for my purposes.

I don't do 4K output but I do have high res input! My time lapse videos are shot with 3k or 4k input. I see this has a great impact on preview ability.

Right now, my computer choices are an old Core2Quad Q8400 2.66Ghz winXP--vegas 9 (some kind of AMD graphics card) and my newer i3 2.4gHz.laptop Win 7-vegas 12. For rendering, the old computer is somewhat faster. But for previewing video, its pretty much a draw. With proxies, I can just about edit on the i3. But without, the old computer can't keep up.

So, I want something better than those. Money IS pretty tight. I was really hoping that old computer would work but it just won't. I suspect a hard drive might be having a problem.

So, emphasis is on CHEAP but with a GOOD (not great) editing experience. Full speed preview is more important that final rendering speed.

Does that make any sense at all?

Jeff Harper · July 8th, 2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy Tejral

But I was looking at this one: HP Z230 Series F1L58UT Tower Workstation F1L58UT#ABA B&H Photo

Looks good for the money, Andy. You would want to consider adding 8GB of Ram for a total of 16GB. B&H can probably do that for you and add to price.

The processor looks decent for what you do, but truthfully am not familiar with it.

Personally I would just keep your case and replace the MOBO, processor, ram, etc. New 8 core processors are coming very soon which is what I would want.

Andy Tejral · July 10th, 2014, 05:27 PM

From some research, that Xeon is similar to the i7 4770 (?) but without graphics. So, its cheaper and I'm not paying for something I'm not going to use--seems like a good deal.

I'm just ordered that computer. I added a 3TB drive but I didn't get more ram, I can add that if it seems mandatory. Wish me luck!

July 3rd, 2014, 08:36 AM	#16
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Re: New PC for Vegas Leslie, I agree with you. So it may be worth looking at current AMD/ATI cards instead of old nVidia cards. I would steer clear of the Intel HD cards at this time, though. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 7th, 2014, 02:35 PM	#17
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Re: New PC for Vegas Wow! My head is spinning! I read those two old threads and find I really don't know what conclusions to draw. I looked at a bunch of those sites and they're just too pricey. More than I need I think. But I was looking at this one: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1045283-REG/hp_f1l58ut_aba_z230_x_e3_1230v3_8gb_500gb_windows7p64_windows8_1p.html I wanted to stay under $1000 but maybe the added cost is worth it? With 3T internal drive, wifi and card reader--$1300. But well under the $2500 for a custom build. What do you think? __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

July 7th, 2014, 05:53 PM	#18
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: New PC for Vegas andy, what's your main format you're editing - that could be quite a factor in deciding the pc you need. eg. dv you can edit on almost any pc, 4k would be a whole new ballgame.... __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

July 7th, 2014, 06:30 PM	#19
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Re: New PC for Vegas Eh... somewhere in between. I do have a lot of DV footage that I still hope to use one day... But various HD formats: HDV, AVCHD and whatever my Canon t4i shoots. At the moment, I'm just producing for youtube. I've been doing 720p24 to save on upload time. Plenty of quality for my purposes. I don't do 4K output but I do have high res input! My time lapse videos are shot with 3k or 4k input. I see this has a great impact on preview ability. Right now, my computer choices are an old Core2Quad Q8400 2.66Ghz winXP--vegas 9 (some kind of AMD graphics card) and my newer i3 2.4gHz.laptop Win 7-vegas 12. For rendering, the old computer is somewhat faster. But for previewing video, its pretty much a draw. With proxies, I can just about edit on the i3. But without, the old computer can't keep up. So, I want something better than those. Money IS pretty tight. I was really hoping that old computer would work but it just won't. I suspect a hard drive might be having a problem. So, emphasis is on CHEAP but with a GOOD (not great) editing experience. Full speed preview is more important that final rendering speed. Does that make any sense at all? __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

July 10th, 2014, 05:27 PM	#21
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Re: New PC for Vegas From some research, that Xeon is similar to the i7 4770 (?) but without graphics. So, its cheaper and I'm not paying for something I'm not going to use--seems like a good deal. I'm just ordered that computer. I added a 3TB drive but I didn't get more ram, I can add that if it seems mandatory. Wish me luck! __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer