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Christopher Young · May 27th, 2014, 09:17 PM

that if you save a project in Vegas v13 you can open it in v12. First time I have ever been able to open a project saved in a later version but then been able to open it in an earlier version.

It's just an observation but I guess it goes to show how little v13 has changed under the hood if v12 can open v13 projects. v13 is really beginning to look like a 'cosmetic' upgrade with a few more third party associations like NewBlue thrown in. In the past changes to the core code of Vegas precluded using earlier version to open up projects created in later versions. I've tried this a couple of times now and it really does seem to be the case.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

Jorma Nippala · May 28th, 2014, 01:25 AM

See the second post from a SCS dev in this SCS forum thread.
Sony Creative Software - Forums - Vegas Pro - Video Messages

Edward Troxel · May 28th, 2014, 07:54 AM

Christopher, there were many new features added in Vegas Pro 13. However, none of those features required changing the VEG file format this time.

Christopher Young · May 29th, 2014, 06:58 AM

Edward ~

"Ah said the blind man. Now I see."

Many new features!? I hope you don't mean the slip / slide, time stretch and fairly useless split trim tool down the bottom. Out of all those the shuffle tool would be the most useful. All the others we have had before in one form or another just not grouped in one menu. One new 'feature' was a backward step IMHO. Moving the timeline tool bar down to the bottom of the timeline window. A decision obviously not discussed in any consultation with end user editors. If you have a multi-monitor set up with one monitor dedicated to timelines your tools used to be just above your timeline grouped along with all your other menu tools such as File, Edit, View etc.

Now unless you have ten video tracks or so you have to jump from top of screen to bottom of screen and back again. Totally unnecessary movements. If Sony are going to move things around which have been in the same place for the 12 previous versions it would have been nice to be consulted on the decision to do so. If they are going to make an arbitrary GUI layout changes like that at least give us the option to move it back or float the tool bar if we see fit.

Other than that very satisfied with v13 so far. Very stable and working well with Nvidia GPUs.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

May 27th, 2014, 09:17 PM	#1
Christopher Young Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,577	Has anyone noticed... that if you save a project in Vegas v13 you can open it in v12. First time I have ever been able to open a project saved in a later version but then been able to open it in an earlier version. It's just an observation but I guess it goes to show how little v13 has changed under the hood if v12 can open v13 projects. v13 is really beginning to look like a 'cosmetic' upgrade with a few more third party associations like NewBlue thrown in. In the past changes to the core code of Vegas precluded using earlier version to open up projects created in later versions. I've tried this a couple of times now and it really does seem to be the case. Chris Young CYV Productions Sydney

May 28th, 2014, 01:25 AM	#2
Jorma Nippala Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Finland Posts: 52	Re: Has anyone noticed... See the second post from a SCS dev in this SCS forum thread. Sony Creative Software - Forums - Vegas Pro - Video Messages

May 28th, 2014, 07:54 AM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Re: Has anyone noticed... Christopher, there were many new features added in Vegas Pro 13. However, none of those features required changing the VEG file format this time. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 29th, 2014, 06:58 AM	#4
Christopher Young Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,577	Re: Has anyone noticed... Edward ~ "Ah said the blind man. Now I see." Many new features!? I hope you don't mean the slip / slide, time stretch and fairly useless split trim tool down the bottom. Out of all those the shuffle tool would be the most useful. All the others we have had before in one form or another just not grouped in one menu. One new 'feature' was a backward step IMHO. Moving the timeline tool bar down to the bottom of the timeline window. A decision obviously not discussed in any consultation with end user editors. If you have a multi-monitor set up with one monitor dedicated to timelines your tools used to be just above your timeline grouped along with all your other menu tools such as File, Edit, View etc. Now unless you have ten video tracks or so you have to jump from top of screen to bottom of screen and back again. Totally unnecessary movements. If Sony are going to move things around which have been in the same place for the 12 previous versions it would have been nice to be consulted on the decision to do so. If they are going to make an arbitrary GUI layout changes like that at least give us the option to move it back or float the tool bar if we see fit. Other than that very satisfied with v13 so far. Very stable and working well with Nvidia GPUs. Chris Young CYV Productions Sydney