Pan/Crop Question at DVinfo.net

Ruben Pla · October 5th, 2005, 03:18 PM

I know it's probably a simple solution, but I can't quite get it. There's a shot where writing on a paper is just slightly getting cut out at the edges of the tv screen. According to the "safe grid" it should be just inside the tv screen, but when I play the CD on the actual tv, the first and last letter are just slightly outside the frame. How do I pan/crop (or something else) to get it all in frame for the tv? Thank you.

Edward Troxel · October 5th, 2005, 03:24 PM

I would probably use Track Motion to simply make the video slightly smaller so everything would fit. If you use Pan/Crop, you will need to make the Pan/Crop screen BIGGER so that the image will become smaller.

Ruben Pla · October 5th, 2005, 04:20 PM

Thanks, Ed. I'll try it. I've never used Track Motion, but I'll go read up on it and, if I can't figure it out, I'll get back to you.

Ruben

Ruben Pla · October 5th, 2005, 04:46 PM

I tried, but I can't get it. How do I do it? I need to make the last letter on either side a little more inside the safe area.

Ruben Pla · October 5th, 2005, 05:00 PM

I went back and tried the making the pan/crop screen bigger, and that does get all the letters in the safe zone, but now there are black bars all around the frame.

Edward Troxel · October 5th, 2005, 09:25 PM

You could add a generated media of the proper color on a track below that track to make it a different color. However, by making it smaller, you will have an edge of some color (black by default)

Ruben Pla · October 5th, 2005, 11:57 PM

Is there a way to reduce the frame, so it's all within the safe zone, crop the black borders out, and then enlarge that frame it so that it fills the whole screen? Can that be done? It seems like it should be.

Edward Troxel · October 6th, 2005, 07:46 AM

The only way to "crop out the black borders" is to make them "not black." Put a generated media of the desired color on a track below that event.

John Rofrano · October 6th, 2005, 10:10 AM

One trick is to duplicate the media on the track below and add a Gaussian Blur. Now when you crop the upper track to get the text to fit within the safe area, instead of black bars you will have the same color as the original background only blurred. Sometimes it’s not even that noticeable.

~jr

Ruben Pla · October 6th, 2005, 04:56 PM

Ok, thanks. I'll try that.

October 5th, 2005, 03:18 PM	#1
Ruben Pla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 80	Pan/Crop Question I know it's probably a simple solution, but I can't quite get it. There's a shot where writing on a paper is just slightly getting cut out at the edges of the tv screen. According to the "safe grid" it should be just inside the tv screen, but when I play the CD on the actual tv, the first and last letter are just slightly outside the frame. How do I pan/crop (or something else) to get it all in frame for the tv? Thank you.

October 5th, 2005, 03:24 PM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I would probably use Track Motion to simply make the video slightly smaller so everything would fit. If you use Pan/Crop, you will need to make the Pan/Crop screen BIGGER so that the image will become smaller. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 5th, 2005, 09:25 PM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You could add a generated media of the proper color on a track below that track to make it a different color. However, by making it smaller, you will have an edge of some color (black by default) __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 6th, 2005, 07:46 AM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The only way to "crop out the black borders" is to make them "not black." Put a generated media of the desired color on a track below that event. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 6th, 2005, 10:10 AM	#9
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	One trick is to duplicate the media on the track below and add a Gaussian Blur. Now when you crop the upper track to get the text to fit within the safe area, instead of black bars you will have the same color as the original background only blurred. Sometimes it’s not even that noticeable. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

October 5th, 2005, 04:20 PM	#3
Ruben Pla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 80	Thanks, Ed. I'll try it. I've never used Track Motion, but I'll go read up on it and, if I can't figure it out, I'll get back to you. Ruben

October 5th, 2005, 04:46 PM	#4
Ruben Pla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 80	I tried, but I can't get it. How do I do it? I need to make the last letter on either side a little more inside the safe area.

October 5th, 2005, 05:00 PM	#5
Ruben Pla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 80	I went back and tried the making the pan/crop screen bigger, and that does get all the letters in the safe zone, but now there are black bars all around the frame.

October 5th, 2005, 11:57 PM	#7
Ruben Pla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 80	Is there a way to reduce the frame, so it's all within the safe zone, crop the black borders out, and then enlarge that frame it so that it fills the whole screen? Can that be done? It seems like it should be.

October 6th, 2005, 04:56 PM	#10
Ruben Pla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 80	Ok, thanks. I'll try that.