Rotation in clip properties at DVinfo.net

Andy Tejral · January 21st, 2014, 01:16 PM

I'm using Vegas to compile still images into time lapse videos. Using v12 build 770

In one case, the camera was mounted upside down. I need to turn them (still images) right side up.

To me, it seems like the most obvious way to do this is to use the clip properties. I import the image sequence, right click and select properties and change the rotation parameter to 180.

But when I render the video, that parameter gets reset to 0.

To me, this seems like a bug.

But Vegas support says that this is a Windows parameter that Vegas has no control over.

"Clip properties are on the file itself which is an entity that Vegas does not save, but it saved in the OS. Pan crop and track motion are entities that exist at the event level and track level in Vegas, and this is information that Vegas saves as project data which is recalled when the project file is opened."

First off, there is no 'clip'--its an image sequence created by Vegas. Why can I successfully change the parameter and then why does it get reset?

Second, OK, it is a Windows parameter that really can't be set since there is no clip. Why does Vegas let me do this?

Am I wrong in thinking this is a bug?

Don Bloom · January 21st, 2014, 01:18 PM

For those clips goto PAN/CROP and use FLIP in the right clicked menu. Do one then C/P to the others.

Andy Tejral · January 21st, 2014, 01:26 PM

That's what support suggested. But if I do that, I'll be working with an upside down image in the pan/crop window.

Yes, there are plenty of workarounds. My REAL question is: is this a bug? It sure seems like it to me.

Don Bloom · January 21st, 2014, 05:38 PM

I don't understand what you're saying " working with an upside down image in pan crop".

If you flip it in the P/C window it'll be right side up. At least that's how I remember it from the last time I did that a couple of months ago. My edit machine isn't on right to double check it but like I say, the last time I flipped an image it looked correct in the P/C window.

Tim Lewis · January 21st, 2014, 08:56 PM

If you have photoshop, this can be done before Vegas in the image processor.

Mike Kujbida · January 21st, 2014, 09:06 PM

I use IrfanView (it's free) to do this. If there are a lot of them, the batch converter option in it is VERY fast.

IrfanView

Juris Lielpeteris · January 21st, 2014, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Tejral

My REAL question is: is this a bug? It sure seems like it to me.

It seems to be a bug because rotation of still images or video works correctly, only image sequences mostly resets rotation after getting out of focus the vegas window.

January 21st, 2014, 01:16 PM	#1
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Rotation in clip properties I'm using Vegas to compile still images into time lapse videos. Using v12 build 770 In one case, the camera was mounted upside down. I need to turn them (still images) right side up. To me, it seems like the most obvious way to do this is to use the clip properties. I import the image sequence, right click and select properties and change the rotation parameter to 180. But when I render the video, that parameter gets reset to 0. To me, this seems like a bug. But Vegas support says that this is a Windows parameter that Vegas has no control over. "Clip properties are on the file itself which is an entity that Vegas does not save, but it saved in the OS. Pan crop and track motion are entities that exist at the event level and track level in Vegas, and this is information that Vegas saves as project data which is recalled when the project file is opened." First off, there is no 'clip'--its an image sequence created by Vegas. Why can I successfully change the parameter and then why does it get reset? Second, OK, it is a Windows parameter that really can't be set since there is no clip. Why does Vegas let me do this? Am I wrong in thinking this is a bug? __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer Last edited by Andy Tejral; January 21st, 2014 at 01:19 PM. Reason: additional info

January 21st, 2014, 01:18 PM	#2
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Re: Rotation in clip properties For those clips goto PAN/CROP and use FLIP in the right clicked menu. Do one then C/P to the others. __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

January 21st, 2014, 01:26 PM	#3
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Re: Rotation in clip properties That's what support suggested. But if I do that, I'll be working with an upside down image in the pan/crop window. Yes, there are plenty of workarounds. My REAL question is: is this a bug? It sure seems like it to me. __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

January 21st, 2014, 05:38 PM	#4
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Re: Rotation in clip properties I don't understand what you're saying " working with an upside down image in pan crop". If you flip it in the P/C window it'll be right side up. At least that's how I remember it from the last time I did that a couple of months ago. My edit machine isn't on right to double check it but like I say, the last time I flipped an image it looked correct in the P/C window. __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

January 21st, 2014, 08:56 PM	#5
Tim Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Perth, Western Australia. Posts: 591	Re: Rotation in clip properties If you have photoshop, this can be done before Vegas in the image processor. __________________ Cheers Tim

January 21st, 2014, 09:06 PM	#6
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Rotation in clip properties I use IrfanView (it's free) to do this. If there are a lot of them, the batch converter option in it is VERY fast. IrfanView