CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset - Page 2 at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Windows / PC Post Production Solutions > What Happens in Vegas...
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

What Happens in Vegas...
...stays in Vegas! This PC-based editing app is a safe bet with these tips.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old November 6th, 2013, 12:37 PM   #16
Sponsor: JET DV
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 7,953
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

I did this with ColorFast:

Didn't want to "brighten" it too much but you can definitely see the faces now. Of course, you could easily go further and I actually lowered the brightness on the blown out background too.
Attached Thumbnails
CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset-backlightcorrected.jpg   CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset-backlightsettings.jpg  

Edward Troxel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 6th, 2013, 12:46 PM   #17
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Riga, Latvija, EU
Posts: 292
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

The same with Sony Color curves:
Attached Thumbnails
CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset-image1.jpg   CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset-starpliktuve-1.jpg  

Juris Lielpeteris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 6th, 2013, 07:18 PM   #18
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 8,441
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Thanks Guys

ColourFast seems like a worthwhile plugin to get !

Chris
Chris Harding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 7th, 2013, 12:14 PM   #19
Old Boot
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London UK
Posts: 3,633
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Hi Chris, check out David McKnight's FAB NewBlue ColorFast Tutorial. Pure VooDoo.......

Graham Bernard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 8th, 2013, 12:24 AM   #20
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 8,441
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Thanks

Very informative but quite pricey at $129 just for a plugin I thought?

I'll have to give the trial version a run and then compare it with using Vegas only which still does a great job..it's only one ot two at most that give me the problem!!

Chris
Chris Harding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 8th, 2013, 01:29 AM   #21
Old Boot
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London UK
Posts: 3,633
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Harding View Post
Very informative but quite pricey at $129 just for a plugin I thought
Would you have paid $86.59? I did. How? I've signed up with New Blue and have them get me their news on OFFERS! I did this in Feb this year.

My Edit Day-Rate dictates I need swift results. I saw the ColorFast demo; had already signed up with NB, along with a mass of other 3rd party pluggers, to get in front of the offer train so when the CF offer came out - CardTime!

Plugs? It's what Vegas Pro has evolved into becoming capable of using. It wasn't always the case! Nu-uh . . . . . Consequently, not to take/make use of its 21st Century abilities is fighting with one hand tied behind your back all the time. However, I do understand. If you can get close to getting a result with Vegas then leave well alone and have more lenient delivery times go for it.

The "other" advantage of/with using 3rd Party plugs is a creative one: While I am thinking of the next scene or flow or movement, CF or any well constructed Plug will get me to it or have delivered what I want so I don't loose my train of thought or urgency with the main job of the editing process - hopefully making/creating engaging videos.

Cheers

Grazie

Last edited by Graham Bernard; November 8th, 2013 at 02:05 AM. Reason: wrong company
Graham Bernard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 8th, 2013, 02:32 AM   #22
Old Boot
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London UK
Posts: 3,633
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Chris, do look at the following NB Tutorials for something along the lines of your needs explained in Colorfast.

Graham Bernard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 13th, 2013, 01:00 PM   #23
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Montreal
Posts: 388
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Just as a side-note, if you have access to AE, that can be used as a very advanced color correction tool as well. Check the attached image for a quick shot on my end done with native tools in a few minutes (Exposure, Levels, Curves, and Hue adjustment since the grooms face got very red after the initial curves boost).

Curves Shadow Boost -> Exposure Highlight Recovery -> Localized Subject Curves + Levels + Hue/Desat -> General Curves overall

The same procedure could be applied without running mattes as well, but you would have harsher background clipping as you wouldnt have that localized adjustment and the focus would be getting the front subjects up to par.
Attached Thumbnails
CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset-backlight_10.png  
__________________
Automotive Multimedia
Justin Molush is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 14th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #24
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Riga, Latvija, EU
Posts: 292
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Justin, very nice result, but hard to build.
There Vegas + AAV ColorLab (freeware):
Attached Thumbnails
CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset-image2.jpg  
Juris Lielpeteris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 15th, 2013, 04:54 AM   #25
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Woking, England
Posts: 116
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Juris,

Would you like to explain how you did this please. I've had mixed results with AAV ColourLab and certainly nothing as good as this. Thank you.

Richard
Richard Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 15th, 2013, 06:53 AM   #26
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 8,441
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Hi Richard

The one secret is to invert the image so it looks negative ..the CC works far better with the image inverted.

What you do is add a Sony Invert and push the slider to max ..then add you CC or AAV Plugin and finally add a second Sony Invert pushed to maximum so the image is inverted a second time and is correct.

In that order the CC is being applied to the inverted image where it does a lot better and then the corrected image (but still inverted) is then inverted back again to normal.

I found that trick on a lady called Eugenia's Vegas site!

Chris
Chris Harding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 15th, 2013, 10:49 AM   #27
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Riga, Latvija, EU
Posts: 292
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Hi, Richard!
There is project of Vegas Pro 12
Image from here http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...ml#post1819522
Attached Files
File Type: zip CC.zip (3.3 KB, 51 views)
Juris Lielpeteris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 16th, 2013, 05:42 AM   #28
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Woking, England
Posts: 116
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

Hi Chris and thank you. I'll give that a go although, for me, the Vegas adjustments can often be applied straight without inversion but this looks a useful trick to have in the bag.

My real problems come with the AAV Plug In which I seem to have more difficulty with. Which link are you referring to on this page Juris? I don't seem to be able to open your zip file either as Vegas Pro 12 can't find it..

Thank you.

Richard.
Richard Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 16th, 2013, 08:28 AM   #29
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Riga, Latvija, EU
Posts: 292
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

The first piture by Chris Harding, attachment in #13, named backlight.jpg.
Juris Lielpeteris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 23rd, 2013, 12:27 PM   #30
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Posts: 190
Re: CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset

I couldn't resist having a go, more out of curiosity than of any claim to be good at it...

Both attempts done in Vegas Pro 12 using its built-in colour curves etc

First one is Colour Corrector + Colour Curves (twice) plus a mask
Second one is just plain ol' Vegas Fill Light
Attached Thumbnails
CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset-jpeg-experiment.jpg   CC Correct Sequence? Gamma, Gain Offset-jpeg-experiment-fill-light.jpg  

David Johns is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Windows / PC Post Production Solutions > What Happens in Vegas...


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:38 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network