Render video CRASH problem! at DVinfo.net

James Manford · March 22nd, 2013, 04:10 PM

Any one else getting this in Sony Vegas 12?

You render your project in HD, and at the end of rendering once it reaches 100% Vegas decides to crash.

It happens quite often.

And working around it is different every time.

If it happens, I usually close the application, re-open the project then it works.

OR

Copy and paste the whole project into a new one and render it.

But the thing is, IT ALWAYS happens even if I decide to do the above work-arounds BEFORE rendering for the first time once completing a project. Why is this!?

Graham Bernard · March 23rd, 2013, 03:11 AM

James what is your source media? And what Template are you rendering to?

Vegas is choking on something, and it is doing this intermittently. Rendering is THE most intensive operation we make our PCs do. Ensuring that Vegas has a fair wind in its sails is not a bad way to commence.

So, two things - Source Media and Render Template - yeah?

Cheers

Grazie

Leslie Wand · March 23rd, 2013, 05:10 AM

+1 grazie

also, dust / bad or badly seated ram?

Steven Davis · March 23rd, 2013, 05:20 AM

It's mostly been media that crashes Vegas for me, however, once or twice it was the actual drive I was using, moved the whole project to another drive and it rendered. Don't ask to explain it, and the card readers at Sony support gave me the deer in headlights look even, so don't depend on them lol.

Vegas has become quirky, even ridiculously picky over the years, maybe it's Sony forgetting it's existence in their RandD section.

But I agree with Graham, it's source or template, but throw in drive as well, hardware like ram too which was also mentioned.

By the way, I still run Vegas 10 because I haven't seen anything from Sony that makes me want to shell out new clams for a new package with the same quirky software year after year.

Peter Riding · March 23rd, 2013, 06:06 AM

I have been getting this as well. However since I have already saved the project and rebooted before rendering, and the rendered files appear to be perfect in every way, I've ignored it. Just one of those things, Vegas is what it is, and hopefully it will be addressed in a future update.

Pete

Graham Bernard · March 23rd, 2013, 07:09 AM

James:

1] Media?

2] Template?

Let's keep it simply to start with - yeah?

Grazie

Duane Adam · March 23rd, 2013, 09:40 AM

I've been working in premiere pro lately but had to modify one of my Vegas files yesterday and its crashed each time I tried to render it.

In all fairness, I dropped in some 4k video files which is where the crashes are happening so Vegas does seem to be choking on these larger files.

But... 4k is what I'm doing from here on and premiere pro handles and renders these larger files with zero problems. There is no way to take a chance on Vegas with a new, full 4k project knowing that it can't handle large files. Trying to render this most recent project brought to light the countless hours wasted with crashes from Vegas. They need to bring this software up to speed as right now there are clearly better options,

James Manford · March 23rd, 2013, 03:23 PM

Im using a Sony EA50 and recording in 25p 1080p FX (.mts) files.

Rendering out using a custom template I got off a video on Youtube. It utilises the Cuda cores in my nVidia graphics card.

EDIT:

Screenshot
http://s9.postimg.org/f9dvd2ge7/Untitled_1.jpg

Graham Bernard · March 24th, 2013, 02:26 AM

And now your Project settings, please?

Cheers

Grazie

James Manford · March 24th, 2013, 02:54 AM

Hi Grazie

Project settings are:

1920x1080x32, 29.970i

EDIT:

Screenshot
http://s11.postimg.org/djof7jpdf/sdgsdg1.jpg

Graham Bernard · March 24th, 2013, 03:01 AM

So your Prject is at 30i your Media is at 25p and you're rendering at 24p? Yes?

G

James Manford · March 24th, 2013, 03:05 AM

Correct.

Im assuming all 3 need to completely match then or ?

( I am quite new to this ... )

Graham Bernard · March 24th, 2013, 03:09 AM

No problems! We've all been new to this stuff.

Ok, firstly match your Project to your Media. Do you know how to do that?

Cheers

Grazie

James Manford · March 24th, 2013, 03:11 AM

I actually don't.

I literally drag and drop files I want to use on the timeline, do my thing and then render out. When it works, the video looks amazing. Can't tell any loss in quality and it matches the actual source media.

Graham Bernard · March 24th, 2013, 03:23 AM

That's ok . . First off what you HAD been doing and the success you had had is something I really can't comment on, but now secondly, we are here 'cos we are here . . . Let's try and get you to at least what Vegas is supposed to do - yeah?

Matching the Project Settings: OK, going into your Project settings see that Icon in the Top Right corner click on it and navigate to where you have your MEdia and "Open" that. WHat this does is actually correctly set your Project to your Media you are using.

When you 've done that please make a screen grab of that and bring it back here - yeah?

Cheers

Grazie

March 22nd, 2013, 04:10 PM	#1
James Manford Trustee Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,393	Render video CRASH problem! Any one else getting this in Sony Vegas 12? You render your project in HD, and at the end of rendering once it reaches 100% Vegas decides to crash. It happens quite often. And working around it is different every time. If it happens, I usually close the application, re-open the project then it works. OR Copy and paste the whole project into a new one and render it. But the thing is, IT ALWAYS happens even if I decide to do the above work-arounds BEFORE rendering for the first time once completing a project. Why is this!?

March 23rd, 2013, 03:11 AM	#2
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Render video CRASH problem! James what is your source media? And what Template are you rendering to? Vegas is choking on something, and it is doing this intermittently. Rendering is THE most intensive operation we make our PCs do. Ensuring that Vegas has a fair wind in its sails is not a bad way to commence. So, two things - Source Media and Render Template - yeah? Cheers Grazie

March 23rd, 2013, 05:10 AM	#3
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: Render video CRASH problem! +1 grazie also, dust / bad or badly seated ram? __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

March 23rd, 2013, 05:20 AM	#4
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Render video CRASH problem! It's mostly been media that crashes Vegas for me, however, once or twice it was the actual drive I was using, moved the whole project to another drive and it rendered. Don't ask to explain it, and the card readers at Sony support gave me the deer in headlights look even, so don't depend on them lol. Vegas has become quirky, even ridiculously picky over the years, maybe it's Sony forgetting it's existence in their RandD section. But I agree with Graham, it's source or template, but throw in drive as well, hardware like ram too which was also mentioned. By the way, I still run Vegas 10 because I haven't seen anything from Sony that makes me want to shell out new clams for a new package with the same quirky software year after year. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

March 23rd, 2013, 06:06 AM	#5
Peter Riding Major Player Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Reading Berkshire UK Posts: 872	Re: Render video CRASH problem! I have been getting this as well. However since I have already saved the project and rebooted before rendering, and the rendered files appear to be perfect in every way, I've ignored it. Just one of those things, Vegas is what it is, and hopefully it will be addressed in a future update. Pete

March 23rd, 2013, 07:09 AM	#6
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Render video CRASH problem! James: 1] Media? 2] Template? Let's keep it simply to start with - yeah? Grazie

March 23rd, 2013, 09:40 AM	#7
Duane Adam Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 398	Re: Render video CRASH problem! I've been working in premiere pro lately but had to modify one of my Vegas files yesterday and its crashed each time I tried to render it. In all fairness, I dropped in some 4k video files which is where the crashes are happening so Vegas does seem to be choking on these larger files. But... 4k is what I'm doing from here on and premiere pro handles and renders these larger files with zero problems. There is no way to take a chance on Vegas with a new, full 4k project knowing that it can't handle large files. Trying to render this most recent project brought to light the countless hours wasted with crashes from Vegas. They need to bring this software up to speed as right now there are clearly better options,

March 23rd, 2013, 03:23 PM	#8
James Manford Trustee Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,393	Re: Render video CRASH problem! Im using a Sony EA50 and recording in 25p 1080p FX (.mts) files. Rendering out using a custom template I got off a video on Youtube. It utilises the Cuda cores in my nVidia graphics card. EDIT: Screenshot http://s9.postimg.org/f9dvd2ge7/Untitled_1.jpg Last edited by James Manford; March 24th, 2013 at 03:04 AM.

March 24th, 2013, 02:26 AM	#9
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Render video CRASH problem! And now your Project settings, please? Cheers Grazie

March 24th, 2013, 02:54 AM	#10
James Manford Trustee Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,393	Re: Render video CRASH problem! Hi Grazie Project settings are: 1920x1080x32, 29.970i EDIT: Screenshot http://s11.postimg.org/djof7jpdf/sdgsdg1.jpg

March 24th, 2013, 03:01 AM	#11
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Render video CRASH problem! So your Prject is at 30i your Media is at 25p and you're rendering at 24p? Yes? G

March 24th, 2013, 03:05 AM	#12
James Manford Trustee Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,393	Re: Render video CRASH problem! Correct. Im assuming all 3 need to completely match then or ? ( I am quite new to this ... )

March 24th, 2013, 03:09 AM	#13
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Render video CRASH problem! No problems! We've all been new to this stuff. Ok, firstly match your Project to your Media. Do you know how to do that? Cheers Grazie

March 24th, 2013, 03:11 AM	#14
James Manford Trustee Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,393	Re: Render video CRASH problem! I actually don't. I literally drag and drop files I want to use on the timeline, do my thing and then render out. When it works, the video looks amazing. Can't tell any loss in quality and it matches the actual source media.

March 24th, 2013, 03:23 AM	#15
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Render video CRASH problem! That's ok . . First off what you HAD been doing and the success you had had is something I really can't comment on, but now secondly, *we are here 'cos we are here* . . . Let's try and get you to at least what Vegas is supposed to do - yeah? *Matching the Project Settings:* OK, going into your Project settings see that Icon in the Top Right corner click on it and navigate to where you have your MEdia and "Open" that. WHat this does is actually correctly set your Project to your Media you are using. When you 've done that please make a screen grab of that and bring it back here - yeah? Cheers Grazie