Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? at DVinfo.net

Paul Cascio · September 16th, 2012, 05:31 PM

I want to mass produce a short video and distribute it on a DVD. I'd like to include an HD version that will auto-load and play on a Blu-ray player, but also be downwardly compatible when placed in a DVD player.

Can DVDA produce this? If not, is it possible using some other software?

Thanks

Jeff Harper · September 16th, 2012, 05:53 PM

I have never heard of such a disc. I do not think it is possible to do what you want with the current standards.

Randall Leong · September 16th, 2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Cascio

I want to mass produce a short video and distribute it on a DVD. I'd like to include an HD version that will auto-load and play on a Blu-ray player, but also be downwardly compatible when placed in a DVD player.

Can DVDA produce this? If not, is it possible using some other software?

Thanks

What you're trying to do is completely impossible with any authoring software. This is due to the completely different UDF structures of both SD DVD and AVCHD DVD. Normal SD DVD players cannot read UDF 2.50 formatted DVD media at all (HD content requires the use of UDF 2.50 in order to be authored onto any type of optical disk whatsoever). SD DVD, on the other hand, only complies to UDF 1.02 - and most Blu-ray players include a separate laser to read legacy DVD media.

Paul Cascio · September 16th, 2012, 07:29 PM

I suspected it was not possible, but I figured this would be the place to get a definitive answer. How about my Plan B...Is there burnable media that is Blu-ray on one side and DVD on the other?

Jeff Harper · September 17th, 2012, 06:07 AM

No. If you think about it it does not make sense, no market for such media even if they could make such a thing.

A bluray player will play both. Bluray players cost under $100 now. The simplest solution is to simply buy a bluray player or simply make two versions of the movie, which in Vegas is very simple to do. I make bluray and DVD versions for all of my customers. It takes a bit of time, but it's not an issue at all.

Paul Cascio · September 17th, 2012, 11:30 AM

I have a client that wants to mass mail a video on DVD to thousands of recipients. He wants people to be able to watch in HD if they have that capability, but wants it compatible with DVD players for those who don't. I was trying to find an option to do that.

I may suggest that he just send them a link to a Vimeo or YouTube video and save the expense.

Jeff Harper · September 17th, 2012, 11:42 AM

Or you could make both versions, put them in a double case, so those with a bluray player have the option. So every client would get both.

Expensive? Sure, but I'd suggest it and let the client decide if it's too expensive. HD videos don't always play well for people with slow connections anyway.

It is a perfectly good idea and it would allow your client to send out his video and to be seen the way he wants it to be seen wherever people have the ability to play Bluray. Just a thought.

D.J. Ammons · September 17th, 2012, 12:12 PM

Most DVD players (and possibly Blu-ray players - I have never checked) have a repeat function that you can set to replay the DVD automatically over and over. We use that function at Wedding Shows to repeat our Demo reel.

Gerald Webb · September 18th, 2012, 03:10 AM

I do this fairly often,
Make a DVD with menu as per normal,
but also have a 1080p HD mp4 as ROM content on the disc as well.
Put a note on the disc and/or in the menu that "This disc contains HD DVD rom content".
Its not exactly what you want but anyone who wants to can watch the HD content on any PC, Mac, PS3, XBox etc

Jeff Harper · September 18th, 2012, 07:18 AM

Pretty clever Gerald. How do you get the HD file on the same disc as a movie? What is the process?

Mike Kujbida · September 18th, 2012, 07:50 AM

Jeff, I've done the same thing as Gerald a few times.
All you need to do is add an extra folder (Sony calls it "Extras" in DVDA) to the root of the DVD menu.
You now end up with 3 folders, VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS and Extras.
You can put anything you want into the Extras folder (video, stills, PDF files, sub-folders, etc.) as long as you remember to make allowances for the size of whatever is in there when you do your original encoding from Vegas (i.e. the proper bitrate).
I do my prepare in DVDA and then use Imgburn (it's free and great!!) to burn the final DVD(s).
The Extras folder can be added in DVDA during the authoring process or when you do the actual burn.

Jeff Harper · September 18th, 2012, 08:05 AM

Thanks Mike, really slick idea, can't wait to use it.

Mike Kujbida · September 18th, 2012, 08:56 AM

You're welcome Jeff. As I said, this is really easy to do.
On a side note, I was doing this long before it became an option in DVDA.

Gerald Webb · September 18th, 2012, 02:53 PM

As Mike said, it is a handy tool to use.
I use Encore, which makes it even easier.
:)

September 16th, 2012, 05:31 PM	#1
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? I want to mass produce a short video and distribute it on a DVD. I'd like to include an HD version that will auto-load and play on a Blu-ray player, but also be downwardly compatible when placed in a DVD player. Can DVDA produce this? If not, is it possible using some other software? Thanks __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

September 16th, 2012, 05:53 PM	#2
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? I have never heard of such a disc. I do not think it is possible to do what you want with the current standards.

September 16th, 2012, 07:29 PM	#4
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? I suspected it was not possible, but I figured this would be the place to get a definitive answer. How about my Plan B...Is there burnable media that is Blu-ray on one side and DVD on the other? __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

September 17th, 2012, 06:07 AM	#5
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? No. If you think about it it does not make sense, no market for such media even if they could make such a thing. A bluray player will play both. Bluray players cost under $100 now. The simplest solution is to simply buy a bluray player or simply make two versions of the movie, which in Vegas is very simple to do. I make bluray and DVD versions for all of my customers. It takes a bit of time, but it's not an issue at all.

September 17th, 2012, 11:30 AM	#6
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? I have a client that wants to mass mail a video on DVD to thousands of recipients. He wants people to be able to watch in HD if they have that capability, but wants it compatible with DVD players for those who don't. I was trying to find an option to do that. I may suggest that he just send them a link to a Vimeo or YouTube video and save the expense. __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

September 17th, 2012, 11:42 AM	#7
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? Or you could make both versions, put them in a double case, so those with a bluray player have the option. So every client would get both. Expensive? Sure, but I'd suggest it and let the client decide if it's too expensive. HD videos don't always play well for people with slow connections anyway. It is a perfectly good idea and it would allow your client to send out his video and to be seen the way he wants it to be seen wherever people have the ability to play Bluray. Just a thought.

September 17th, 2012, 12:12 PM	#8
D.J. Ammons Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 506	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? Most DVD players (and possibly Blu-ray players - I have never checked) have a repeat function that you can set to replay the DVD automatically over and over. We use that function at Wedding Shows to repeat our Demo reel.

September 18th, 2012, 03:10 AM	#9
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? I do this fairly often, Make a DVD with menu as per normal, but also have a 1080p HD mp4 as ROM content on the disc as well. Put a note on the disc and/or in the menu that "This disc contains HD DVD rom content". Its not exactly what you want but anyone who wants to can watch the HD content on any PC, Mac, PS3, XBox etc __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

September 18th, 2012, 07:18 AM	#10
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? Pretty clever Gerald. How do you get the HD file on the same disc as a movie? What is the process?

September 18th, 2012, 07:50 AM	#11
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? Jeff, I've done the same thing as Gerald a few times. All you need to do is add an extra folder (Sony calls it "Extras" in DVDA) to the root of the DVD menu. You now end up with 3 folders, VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS and Extras. You can put anything you want into the Extras folder (video, stills, PDF files, sub-folders, etc.) as long as you remember to make allowances for the size of whatever is in there when you do your original encoding from Vegas (i.e. the proper bitrate). I do my prepare in DVDA and then use Imgburn (it's free and great!!) to burn the final DVD(s). The Extras folder can be added in DVDA during the authoring process or when you do the actual burn.

September 18th, 2012, 08:05 AM	#12
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? Thanks Mike, really slick idea, can't wait to use it.

September 18th, 2012, 08:56 AM	#13
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? You're welcome Jeff. As I said, this is really easy to do. On a side note, I was doing this long before it became an option in DVDA.

September 18th, 2012, 02:53 PM	#14
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Re: Can DVDA make a disk that autoplays as DVD or Blu-ray? As Mike said, it is a handy tool to use. I use Encore, which makes it even easier. :) Attached Thumbnails __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo