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Bill North · May 27th, 2012, 05:06 PM

I have 1hour, 25 minutes of video on the time line. I am rendereing as mpeg2 NTSC widescreen. It is going to take 9 hours to render. Can this be right, what am I doing wrong. I have a fast dual core computer.

Seth Bloombaum · May 27th, 2012, 05:38 PM

That really depends on several factors. But, yes, it can.

How to get long rendering times:
*Start with footage on the timeline that requires lots of processor cycles to decode, AVCHD for example.
*Nudge the opacity slide in track headers off 100%. Easy to do when you're mousing around.
*Apply filters that take lots of processor cycles to render. E.g., Magic Bullet, but there are many.
*Use "Best" rendering quality. This is highly recommended on HD to SD renders, but it does take more time. "Good" is fine for renders with no resizing.
*Don't restart your computer before the render, even if it's been on for days.
*Run lots of resource-hungry applications while you're rendering.
*Have a virus/spambot using lots of resources.
*Sorry, a fast Core2Duo is getting long in the tooth for the heavy lifting that video rendering requires - it really doesn't cut it for AVCHD, not bad for DV or HDV with V10.

So, yeah, on a dual core with MB or starting with AVCHD, you betcha' that render takes a while.

Bill North · May 27th, 2012, 09:06 PM

Seth, thank you for the info looks like I will invest in an i7 computer.

Gerald Webb · May 28th, 2012, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Bloombaum

*Don't restart your computer before the render, even if it's been on for days.

Seth, all the others seem obvious, but this one has me wondering.
Till now, if doing a long render, I have always restarted to clean up the process list and clear caches.
Could you elaborate on why?
cheers

Chris Harding · May 28th, 2012, 09:36 PM

Hi Bill

That's actually about right!! On my old DuoCore 2.2GHZ renders were taking me around 8X realtime so 1 and a bit hours would equate to 9 hours!!

I have an i7 2600 with 8GB ram now and it renders to SD in around 1/3rd realtime or less so the same clip should render in around 20 minutes on an i7... the difference will amaze you!!!

Chris

Peter Riding · May 29th, 2012, 02:04 AM

In addition the PC may be running too hot simply through lack of maintenance. You can check the temperature using the free Core Temp:

Core Temp

Just blowing out the dust and cleaning the fans can help a lot.

Pete

Adam Stanislav · May 29th, 2012, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Riding

In addition the PC may be running too hot simply through lack of maintenance. You can check the temperature using the free Core Temp

How? I went to your link, downloaded it, installed it and could not find it anywhere. Not on my desktop, not in the start menu. So I unistalled it.

Gerald Webb · May 29th, 2012, 04:56 AM

Adam, I believe Core temp runs as part of All CPU Meter, a Windows gadget.
It may not show without the other program.
When working it is a handy tool.

Adam Stanislav · May 29th, 2012, 07:43 AM

Well, I have since remembered that I have the CPUID HWMonitor, which gives much more information about my system, such as the temperature of every hard drive as well as of the GPU in addition to every core of the CPU. So, it turns out I’m covered as far as hardware monitoring goes after all.

Seth Bloombaum · May 29th, 2012, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald Webb

Seth, all the others seem obvious, but this one has me wondering.
Till now, if doing a long render, I have always restarted to clean up the process list and clear caches.
Could you elaborate on why?
cheers

I'm being too cute with my wording. "Not restarting" is on the list of things to get long render times.

Rob Wood · May 29th, 2012, 02:01 PM

wow... good advice Seth, thx! but i gotta rewrite it or i'm gonna go crazy...

TIPS TO MINIMIZE RENDER TIME IN VEGAS - Seth Bloombaum

AVCHD footage on your Timeline will use lots of processor cycles. Consider using intermediates.

Check that the Opacity slider for each Track is set to 100%. Anything less can greatly increase render times. (happened to me recently)

Plugins can significantly add to render-time as some filters use a LOT of processor cycles: Magic Bullet, BCC, etc.

Use "Best" when scaling images or footage (animated photo pans, HD to SD renders, etc).

Use "Good" when no scaling/resizing is being done.

Restart your computer before rendering.

Turn off any applications or background activities that are resource-hungry (some virus/spambots are bad for this for instance)

A Core2Duo computer isn't bad for DV/HDV (Vegas10)... for AVCHD, consider purchasing a newer system.

(did i get all them right? ...think i did but not sure lol...)

Seth Bloombaum · May 29th, 2012, 02:39 PM

Well, my list method seemed good at the time... but, Rob, I think your version is going to be more helpful.

I suppose we should add that there have been rather dramatic improvements for editing new camera codecs in various versions of Vegas Pro. It would run something like this:

DV - V4
HDV - V7
AVCHD - V? (I'm not sure if this was V9, 10, or 11. Somebody here knows.)
Canon dSLR MOV - V11

May 27th, 2012, 05:06 PM	#1
Bill North New Boot Join Date: May 2011 Location: Westlake Ohio Posts: 5	sony vegas 10 render time I have 1hour, 25 minutes of video on the time line. I am rendereing as mpeg2 NTSC widescreen. It is going to take 9 hours to render. Can this be right, what am I doing wrong. I have a fast dual core computer.

May 27th, 2012, 05:38 PM	#2
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Re: sony vegas 10 render time That really depends on several factors. But, yes, it can. How to get long rendering times: Start with footage on the timeline that requires lots of processor cycles to decode, AVCHD for example. Nudge the opacity slide in track headers off 100%. Easy to do when you're mousing around. Apply filters that take lots of processor cycles to render. E.g., Magic Bullet, but there are many. Use "Best" rendering quality. This is highly recommended on HD to SD renders, but it does take more time. "Good" is fine for renders with no resizing. Don't restart your computer before the render, even if it's been on for days. Run lots of resource-hungry applications while you're rendering. Have a virus/spambot using lots of resources. Sorry, a fast Core2Duo is getting long in the tooth for the heavy lifting that video rendering requires - it really doesn't cut it for AVCHD, not bad for DV or HDV with V10. So, yeah, on a dual core with MB or starting with AVCHD, you betcha' that render takes a while. __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

May 27th, 2012, 09:06 PM	#3
Bill North New Boot Join Date: May 2011 Location: Westlake Ohio Posts: 5	Re: sony vegas 10 render time Seth, thank you for the info looks like I will invest in an i7 computer.

May 28th, 2012, 09:36 PM	#5
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: sony vegas 10 render time Hi Bill That's actually about right!! On my old DuoCore 2.2GHZ renders were taking me around 8X realtime so 1 and a bit hours would equate to 9 hours!! I have an i7 2600 with 8GB ram now and it renders to SD in around 1/3rd realtime or less so the same clip should render in around 20 minutes on an i7... the difference will amaze you!!! Chris

May 29th, 2012, 02:04 AM	#6
Peter Riding Major Player Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Reading Berkshire UK Posts: 872	Re: sony vegas 10 render time In addition the PC may be running too hot simply through lack of maintenance. You can check the temperature using the free Core Temp: Core Temp Just blowing out the dust and cleaning the fans can help a lot. Pete

May 29th, 2012, 04:56 AM	#8
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Re: sony vegas 10 render time Adam, I believe Core temp runs as part of All CPU Meter, a Windows gadget. It may not show without the other program. When working it is a handy tool. Attached Thumbnails __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

May 29th, 2012, 07:43 AM	#9
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Re: sony vegas 10 render time Well, I have since remembered that I have the CPUID HWMonitor, which gives much more information about my system, such as the temperature of every hard drive as well as of the GPU in addition to every core of the CPU. So, it turns out I’m covered as far as hardware monitoring goes after all.

May 29th, 2012, 02:01 PM	#11
Rob Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 146	Re: sony vegas 10 render time wow... good advice Seth, thx! but i gotta rewrite it or i'm gonna go crazy... TIPS TO MINIMIZE RENDER TIME IN VEGAS - Seth Bloombaum AVCHD footage on your Timeline will use lots of processor cycles. Consider using intermediates. Check that the Opacity slider for each Track is set to 100%. Anything less can greatly increase render times. (happened to me recently) Plugins can significantly add to render-time as some filters use a LOT of processor cycles: Magic Bullet, BCC, etc. Use "Best" when scaling images or footage (animated photo pans, HD to SD renders, etc). Use "Good" when no scaling/resizing is being done. Restart your computer before rendering. Turn off any applications or background activities that are resource-hungry (some virus/spambots are bad for this for instance) A Core2Duo computer isn't bad for DV/HDV (Vegas10)... for AVCHD, consider purchasing a newer system. (did i get all them right? ...think i did but not sure lol...)

May 29th, 2012, 02:39 PM	#12
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Re: sony vegas 10 render time Well, my list method seemed good at the time... but, Rob, I think your version is going to be more helpful. I suppose we should add that there have been rather dramatic improvements for editing new camera codecs in various versions of Vegas Pro. It would run something like this: DV - V4 HDV - V7 AVCHD - V? (I'm not sure if this was V9, 10, or 11. Somebody here knows.) Canon dSLR MOV - V11 __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.