Fade help at DVinfo.net

Scott Johnston · September 7th, 2005, 06:23 AM

Hey guys,

I am currently trying to loop a song with the introduction and I was wondering, is there any way to adjust that white fade line that comes uo, so that it doesnt end in the bottom corner in silence and maybe move it up the clip so that it ends very quietly instead of silently?

T.I.A
Scott

Edward Troxel · September 7th, 2005, 07:21 AM

Well... I guess you could use a volume envelope instead.

Mark Burlingame · September 7th, 2005, 01:14 PM

I think you can simply lift the fade floor, try grabbing the end of the fade and move it up a bit, I know you can lower the fade ceiling. Mark

Edward Troxel · September 7th, 2005, 02:03 PM

Nope - bottom can't be raised. I just double-checked.

Guy Bruner · September 7th, 2005, 05:20 PM

Well, you can probably trick it by making the audio track longer than the video track. Then your fade will extend out beyond the video track's end. Sort of an L cut for audio. But, I like Edward's volume envelope better.

Mark Burlingame · September 9th, 2005, 03:25 PM

Oh well.. I second the use of envelopes then. The are really easy to use and will do exactly what you want although I don't think you get those nice exponential decay curves as you do with the fades. M

Edward Troxel · September 9th, 2005, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Burlingame

although I don't think you get those nice exponential decay curves as you do with the fades. M

Sure you can. Just right-click the nodes and pick one of the various fade types.

Scott Johnston · September 12th, 2005, 03:24 AM

Doesn't a volume envelope go through the entire project, is there a way to make it only occur in a certain part?

Mike Kujbida · September 12th, 2005, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Johnston

Doesn't a volume envelope go through the entire project, is there a way to make it only occur in a certain part?

It does indeed go though the entire project but, as long as you remember to add a node at the end of the "certain part" to bring it back to normal level (0.0 db) after changing it as desired, it's usually not a problem.

Mike

Scott Johnston · September 12th, 2005, 03:47 AM

So, there is no way to bypass that at all, being that it goes through everything?

Guy Bruner · September 12th, 2005, 05:03 AM

Well, you could put some audio on a separate track without the envelope.

Edward Troxel · September 12th, 2005, 08:31 AM

The whole point of the volume envelope is that you can add nodes to adjust as needed. So if only one section needs lowering, for instance, just put two new nodes on the left of that section, two on the right of that section, and then lower it during that section. Then nothing else will be affected.

If you insist, like Guy said - you can put that event on it's own track and adjust it individually. There's no limit to the number of audio tracks you can have so break it up however much you want.

Scott Johnston · September 12th, 2005, 03:30 PM

Awesome, I just put it through the entire thing.

Thanks for the help guys.

September 7th, 2005, 06:23 AM	#1
Scott Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 36	Fade help Hey guys, I am currently trying to loop a song with the introduction and I was wondering, is there any way to adjust that white fade line that comes uo, so that it doesnt end in the bottom corner in silence and maybe move it up the clip so that it ends very quietly instead of silently? T.I.A Scott

September 7th, 2005, 07:21 AM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Well... I guess you could use a volume envelope instead. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 7th, 2005, 01:14 PM	#3
Mark Burlingame Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 77	I think you can simply lift the fade floor, try grabbing the end of the fade and move it up a bit, I know you can lower the fade ceiling. Mark __________________ DVX100a, PV-DV953 Rode NT3, NT1a, videomic Raynox HD6600pro WA Lens Vegas6+DVD

September 7th, 2005, 02:03 PM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Nope - bottom can't be raised. I just double-checked. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 9th, 2005, 03:25 PM	#6
Mark Burlingame Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 77	Oh well.. I second the use of envelopes then. The are really easy to use and will do exactly what you want although I don't think you get those nice exponential decay curves as you do with the fades. M __________________ DVX100a, PV-DV953 Rode NT3, NT1a, videomic Raynox HD6600pro WA Lens Vegas6+DVD

September 7th, 2005, 05:20 PM	#5
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Well, you can probably trick it by making the audio track longer than the video track. Then your fade will extend out beyond the video track's end. Sort of an L cut for audio. But, I like Edward's volume envelope better.

September 12th, 2005, 03:24 AM	#8
Scott Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 36	Doesn't a volume envelope go through the entire project, is there a way to make it only occur in a certain part?

September 12th, 2005, 03:47 AM	#10
Scott Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 36	So, there is no way to bypass that at all, being that it goes through everything?

September 12th, 2005, 05:03 AM	#11
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Well, you could put some audio on a separate track without the envelope.

September 12th, 2005, 08:31 AM	#12
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The whole point of the volume envelope is that you can add nodes to adjust as needed. So if only one section needs lowering, for instance, just put two new nodes on the left of that section, two on the right of that section, and then lower it during that section. Then nothing else will be affected. If you insist, like Guy said - you can put that event on it's own track and adjust it individually. There's no limit to the number of audio tracks you can have so break it up however much you want. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 12th, 2005, 03:30 PM	#13
Scott Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 36	Awesome, I just put it through the entire thing. Thanks for the help guys.