New video card at DVinfo.net

John McCully · February 2nd, 2012, 03:29 PM

The computer I currently use for editing (Vegas Pro 11) is a Dell XPS 9000 with a 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon HD5770 video card installed. The video card is acting up, overheating it appears, and so my question is what video card would you recommend I purchase as an upgrade in order to utilize the new features of Vegas Pro 11?

Many thanks

John

Stephen Sobel · February 4th, 2012, 05:40 PM

I have the 5750, and it is working fine with Vegas 11. Do you what temps your card is reaching? Are there any other components that are acting up as well? Do you have sufficient case fans and air flow?

Joe Kollee · February 4th, 2012, 10:56 PM

Well, it is hard to answer a question like this since there are so many different video cards out there.
Also, most name brand computers usually install a powersupply that just meets the systems current power needs. So changing a video card, usually means changing the powersupply as well.

Since you asked for an opinion, I would go with a Nvidia GTX 560TI 448 core video card and a seasonic 600 watt power supply or the seasonic 750 watt supply.

When reading the many posts here on the forum about video cards, many people have disabled GPU rendering, as I believe some of the codex they are using are not GPU accelerated. Since I am more of a hardware expert than a vegas expert ( more a vegas novice really ) I would double check your work flow to see if GPU acceleration will work for you.

I use two video cards, a 10bit-deepcolor video card for photoshop and a gforce card, for vegas.

Sorry about the late answer, I was on vacation o)

John McCully · February 5th, 2012, 02:35 AM

Joe, many thanks for that; most appreciated. I’ve been out of the office also as it happens and not paying attention to this issue until today. On further investigation seems it is not a video card issue but perhaps a power supply thing therefore your response is relevant as I might just go with the Seasonic power supply, if they are available in this part of the world.

I guess I’m not up to speed on how Vegas might utilize the video card other than that I recall something about the current version doing so. I might just go ahead and upgrade the power supply and see if that tidies things up and take it from there. The ATI Radeon HD5770 video card passed all the tests I've just completed so it should be just fine. If I do need to upgrade the card I shall go with your suggestion.

Many thanks.

Leslie Wand · February 5th, 2012, 02:37 AM

no cuda on ati.

that is if you need it.

John McCully · February 5th, 2012, 02:44 AM

Huh! Had to Google cuda and seems, I think, you are saying that my current video card can not be utilized during rendering. Did I get that right Leslie? Not sure if I need it but I always want faster rendering. Maybe I do need a new video card. Does it really make a difference to rendering time?

Leslie Wand · February 5th, 2012, 05:05 AM

well, it certainly makes a difference IF your cpu isn't as powerful as your gpu ;-)

i'm no expert on this, but reading the various groups it seems there's a lot to be gained using gpu rendering on less powerful pcs.

my i7/920 with 550ti gives excellent render times with gpu. 560> cards even better.

i think you need to research a little about it - try scs board as well...

what's the dell cpu?

John McCully · February 5th, 2012, 01:02 PM

The cpu is the same as yours. The card upgrades you are talking about look like about $300 to 400 NZ and perhaps a new PSU.

Thanks for clueing me in on the cuda business. I simply assumed my modern machine would be just fine with the GPU rendering assist enabled with Vegas Pro 11. Ya learn something every day around here.

What sort of percent increase are you talking about, más o menos?

Bill Koehler · February 5th, 2012, 05:13 PM

Keep in mind Vegas also supports OpenCL, which the AMD Radeon card mentioned has.

So as is, with no changes, the OP can get GPU acceleration.

John McCully · February 5th, 2012, 08:00 PM

Thanks Bill, most helpful. I took a look in the help file, downloaded the latest drivers and Bob's your uncle; I'm in business with GPU assisted rendering with the card installed as you said.

Regarding the overheating problem I took the computer outside, took off the cover and gave the thing a good blowing out with compreseed air. You would not believe the crap the came out of there.

I think I might be home free!

Thanks, and cheers...

Stephen Sobel · February 8th, 2012, 04:45 PM

For what it's worth, I open my case up and blow it out about every three or four months. There's always a bit of dust that has accumulated.

Do you have any software installed that can check your card's temp?

John McCully · February 13th, 2012, 09:45 PM

Thanks Stephen, yes, I have Speedfan 4.45 installed and the card is running, now, at about 50 C. I have discovered that I might need a new video card after all notwithstanding the temperature being satisfactory. I am unable to render AVCHD 60p unless I select the option to not use the GPU. While the card is said to be OpenCL compliant and therefore should work it doesn’t. Either the card is not up to the task for whatever reason or there is a switch I have yet to locate.

Looking at Sony’s Vegas web site I note the best performing card that they have tested, or at least publish data on, is the Nvidia GeForce GTX 570. So I would probably be up for a new PSU along with the card which adds up to more than loose change. And it may well be that there are newer cards that are significantly better!

So, work in progress and ideas most welcome.

Stephen Sobel · February 14th, 2012, 08:13 PM

John, If you end up getting a new card, please post the details. I'm going to be doing a new build in the fall, so I'll be looking for ideas.

Stephen

John McCully · February 20th, 2012, 01:01 AM

Sure will, Stephen. Given the first-look at the associated costs and the fact that it’s high summer here; you know – the season to procrastinate as long as things are going more-or-less OK (which they are), it might be that you get there first in which case I will learn from your experience. But yes; when I do I will post accordingly. Thanks for the suggestion.

Cheers...

Stephen Sobel · February 20th, 2012, 06:01 AM

John,

If I get there first, I will certainly post the details.

Stephen

February 2nd, 2012, 03:29 PM	#1
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	New video card The computer I currently use for editing (Vegas Pro 11) is a Dell XPS 9000 with a 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon HD5770 video card installed. The video card is acting up, overheating it appears, and so my question is what video card would you recommend I purchase as an upgrade in order to utilize the new features of Vegas Pro 11? Many thanks John

February 4th, 2012, 05:40 PM	#2
Stephen Sobel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 408	Re: New video card I have the 5750, and it is working fine with Vegas 11. Do you what temps your card is reaching? Are there any other components that are acting up as well? Do you have sufficient case fans and air flow?

February 4th, 2012, 10:56 PM	#3
Joe Kollee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Niagara Falls, Canada Posts: 43	Re: New video card Well, it is hard to answer a question like this since there are so many different video cards out there. Also, most name brand computers usually install a powersupply that just meets the systems current power needs. So changing a video card, usually means changing the powersupply as well. Since you asked for an opinion, I would go with a Nvidia GTX 560TI 448 core video card and a seasonic 600 watt power supply or the seasonic 750 watt supply. When reading the many posts here on the forum about video cards, many people have disabled GPU rendering, as I believe some of the codex they are using are not GPU accelerated. Since I am more of a hardware expert than a vegas expert ( more a vegas novice really ) I would double check your work flow to see if GPU acceleration will work for you. I use two video cards, a 10bit-deepcolor video card for photoshop and a gforce card, for vegas. Sorry about the late answer, I was on vacation o)

February 5th, 2012, 02:35 AM	#4
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: New video card Joe, many thanks for that; most appreciated. I’ve been out of the office also as it happens and not paying attention to this issue until today. On further investigation seems it is not a video card issue but perhaps a power supply thing therefore your response is relevant as I might just go with the Seasonic power supply, if they are available in this part of the world. I guess I’m not up to speed on how Vegas might utilize the video card other than that I recall something about the current version doing so. I might just go ahead and upgrade the power supply and see if that tidies things up and take it from there. The ATI Radeon HD5770 video card passed all the tests I've just completed so it should be just fine. If I do need to upgrade the card I shall go with your suggestion. Many thanks.

February 5th, 2012, 02:37 AM	#5
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: New video card no cuda on ati. that is if you need it. __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

February 5th, 2012, 02:44 AM	#6
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: New video card Huh! Had to Google cuda and seems, I think, you are saying that my current video card can not be utilized during rendering. Did I get that right Leslie? Not sure if I need it but I always want faster rendering. Maybe I do need a new video card. Does it really make a difference to rendering time?

February 5th, 2012, 05:05 AM	#7
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: New video card well, it certainly makes a difference IF your cpu isn't as powerful as your gpu ;-) i'm no expert on this, but reading the various groups it seems there's a lot to be gained using gpu rendering on less powerful pcs. my i7/920 with 550ti gives excellent render times with gpu. 560> cards even better. i think you need to research a little about it - try scs board as well... what's the dell cpu? __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

February 5th, 2012, 01:02 PM	#8
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: New video card The cpu is the same as yours. The card upgrades you are talking about look like about $300 to 400 NZ and perhaps a new PSU. Thanks for clueing me in on the cuda business. I simply assumed my modern machine would be just fine with the GPU rendering assist enabled with Vegas Pro 11. Ya learn something every day around here. What sort of percent increase are you talking about, más o menos?

February 5th, 2012, 05:13 PM	#9
Bill Koehler Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA Posts: 760	Re: New video card Keep in mind Vegas also supports OpenCL, which the AMD Radeon card mentioned has. So as is, with no changes, the OP can get GPU acceleration.

February 5th, 2012, 08:00 PM	#10
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: New video card Thanks Bill, most helpful. I took a look in the help file, downloaded the latest drivers and Bob's your uncle; I'm in business with GPU assisted rendering with the card installed as you said. Regarding the overheating problem I took the computer outside, took off the cover and gave the thing a good blowing out with compreseed air. You would not believe the crap the came out of there. I think I might be home free! Thanks, and cheers...

February 8th, 2012, 04:45 PM	#11
Stephen Sobel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 408	Re: New video card For what it's worth, I open my case up and blow it out about every three or four months. There's always a bit of dust that has accumulated. Do you have any software installed that can check your card's temp?

February 13th, 2012, 09:45 PM	#12
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: New video card Thanks Stephen, yes, I have Speedfan 4.45 installed and the card is running, now, at about 50 C. I have discovered that I might need a new video card after all notwithstanding the temperature being satisfactory. I am unable to render AVCHD 60p unless I select the option to not use the GPU. While the card is said to be OpenCL compliant and therefore should work it doesn’t. Either the card is not up to the task for whatever reason or there is a switch I have yet to locate. Looking at Sony’s Vegas web site I note the best performing card that they have tested, or at least publish data on, is the Nvidia GeForce GTX 570. So I would probably be up for a new PSU along with the card which adds up to more than loose change. And it may well be that there are newer cards that are significantly better! So, work in progress and ideas most welcome.

February 14th, 2012, 08:13 PM	#13
Stephen Sobel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 408	Re: New video card John, If you end up getting a new card, please post the details. I'm going to be doing a new build in the fall, so I'll be looking for ideas. Stephen

February 20th, 2012, 01:01 AM	#14
John McCully Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Island, New Zealand Posts: 609 Images: 2	Re: New video card Sure will, Stephen. Given the first-look at the associated costs and the fact that it’s high summer here; you know – the season to procrastinate as long as things are going more-or-less OK (which they are), it might be that you get there first in which case I will learn from your experience. But yes; when I do I will post accordingly. Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers...

February 20th, 2012, 06:01 AM	#15
Stephen Sobel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 408	Re: New video card John, If I get there first, I will certainly post the details. Stephen Last edited by Edward Troxel; February 20th, 2012 at 07:43 AM.