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Roy Alexander · November 28th, 2011, 10:13 AM

I am using VMS platinum 10 HD and am getting on very well with it. However the following need is stumping me. My PC has two burners built in one is a Pioneer R/RW DVD burner which plays back to the PC with no bother. The other is the LG GGW-H20 Blu-ray disc rewriter and HD DVD-rom Drive.
I am trying to capture the HD video from a Blu-ray disc to VMS 10 using the LG burner. VMS capture programme will not recognise the disc or the burner. VMS will capture a DVD disc STAND DEF from the pioneer. It's not that the LG is incompatible with VMS because it burns Blu-ray discs from VMS no trouble. At the moment then I can only capture SD DVD.copies of Blu-ray videos to upload to YouTube and the results are definately inferior. Can anyone throw any light on the problem. PLEASE. In case you are wondering why it is necessary for me to upload to YouTube using a Disc. It's because (idiotically) for the first time I forgot to transfer the finished video to Tape after making Blu-ray disc and DVD discs and so wiped off the videos from ther PC with no tape copies. I'll have to make a check list to follow in future.

Jeff Harper · November 28th, 2011, 10:37 AM

Roy, could you use windows to drag and drop the files from the Bluray disc to a new folder, then bring them into VMS?

Roy Alexander · November 28th, 2011, 01:57 PM

Jeff. I've just realised that the built in LG Blu-ray burner is not playing back to the PC. I have an LG standalone Blu-ray player. I wonder if I connect that to the PC if VMS would capture from it. Trouble is I wouldn't know how to make the connection. I could get a friendly expert in to do it I suppose. The DVD burner is connected to the PC, the Blu-ray burner must be as well or else I couldn't burn a Blu-ray. I am wondering if the Blu-ray burner is just that and is not meant to play back. Roy

Jeff Harper · November 28th, 2011, 02:05 PM

I don't know but I feel certain you need to use a BR player made for a PC. If yours is not working you'll either need a new one or use someone else's to copy the files from the disc. Wish I had more to offer, good luck.

Steve Game · November 28th, 2011, 06:01 PM

Roy,

As this is a once-off exercise, I suggest that you download the trial version of AnyDVD HD from here:

SlySoft Download | AnyDVD, CloneDVD, CloneCD, GameJackal, Any DVD, Clone DVD, Clone CD, Game Jackal

You can then rip the disc to HDD. Then it should be simple to load the video files onto the timeline. They are usually AVCHD/H264 types and are located in the '\BDMV\stream' folder.

Sometimes the files don't want to load so you may need to run them through Handbrake.

Steve

Jeff Harper · November 28th, 2011, 09:54 PM

Steve, Roy said the player isn't playing back, I assumed it was a hardware issue. His disc is not copy-protected, it's his own Bluray creation, I wouldn't think would benefit from AnyDVD HD, unless I'm missing something. If that is the case it wouldn't be the first time I've missed the obvious.

Roy, why can't you open the disc in windows explorer and drag and drop? Does the disc not show up at all? Is the BR drive not showing up in My Computer?

Roy Alexander · November 29th, 2011, 02:45 AM

Jeff. Thanks for replies. I must emphasise that the Blu-ray burner is a built in HD/DVD/DVD rewriter and not a standalone blu-ray player. As I said before it burns Blu-ray discs from the PC (VMS 110 HD Platinum) but won't play them back. In fact when I try, the PC crashes I can't find out from the rewriter user guide whether it's meant to play back or not. The Blu-ray discs burnt with the re-writer play back perfectly with very good resolution all blu-ray standalone players. Unfortunately the standalone players have no firewire socketry to connect to the PC. With regard to your useful suggestions. The rewriter is making connection to the PC and has a shortcut on the desktop. When I click onto it a message tells me to insert a disc, as soon as I do, the whole lot crashes. regards Roy

Phil Lee · November 29th, 2011, 11:45 AM

Hi

What operating system is it?

If it is Vista or Windows 7 and up to date a Blu-ray disc should appear in My Computer and you can right click and Explore or Open it. On the disc browse to BDMV or BDAV and Stream and in here will be some .mt2s files, copy these to your computer and double click to play, they might need renaming to .mts if they don't play initially. Some of these will be menu items, but the larger files will be your footage. They should work as is in Sony Vegas.

You can't play a Blu-ray disc like you would a DVD in Windows as no versions support Blu-ray playback, for that you need third party software, it might be that third party software crashing so make sure you have updates.

If you are using Windows XP this will need third party UDF drivers just to read the disc, these are quite often flaky. Any thing else I don't know.

Regards

Phil

Roy Alexander · November 29th, 2011, 03:31 PM

Hi Phil. Thanks for the info. I am using XP so I've been trying to do something that's not possible. I have a friend who uses Wiondows 7 so I'll see if he can put the video on tape from the blu-ray disc using your info. Thanks again. Regards Roy

Steve Game · November 29th, 2011, 05:08 PM

Roy,

The point I was trying to make was that AnyDVD HD comes with its own UDF drivers, so that it can work just as well on a XP system. Although AnyDVD will rip protected discs, I suggested it so that you can rip the video files on your own discs on any OS.

Steve

Jeff Harper · November 29th, 2011, 06:17 PM

Roy, Steve, what Phil and I are saying is the disc doesn't need to be ripped, period. Roy, this is basic windows stuff.

You open the disc up in my computer, just like opening any folder or accessing any DVD or any hard drive. You start in my computer, as Phil says, navigate to the disc, and drag and drop the files you want right off the disc, no ripping, nothing else is required. As long as the disc is recognized by windows in my computer, you're good to go. The disc doesn't need to be playable by your PC.

Roy Alexander · November 30th, 2011, 02:51 PM

Hi Jeff. I tried what you have suggested but allthough the PC recognises the LG burner, It doesn't recognise it's contents of any disc I put in. In fact no matter what disc I put in it, the Programme crashes every time and also the pC itself and I have to re-boot. The same burner does the same when a DVD disc is inserted. So it looks as if something needs attention. A friend manages ok, he has a built in LG burner and uses Adobe CS5 and while he can't play the Blu-ray in windows 7, he can do what you have suggested and has managed to put the blu-ray video on his timeline. I am sending him my Blu-ray disc and hopefully he will transfer it's contents to DV tape cassette. Thanks for your input and everybody else who has answered my question. I will put all the suggestions in my personal manual I am making. regards Roy

Jeff Harper · November 30th, 2011, 03:05 PM

Roy, good luck. I'm just double checking here...Did you try going to my computer and then NOT left clicking but instead "right clicking" on the bluray icon and then click "open"?. Just want to make sure you are not left clicking.

Roy Alexander · December 1st, 2011, 07:59 AM

Jeff. Yes I right clicked OK. I have noticed that the LG burner when handling a Standard DVD, will not have the contents shown either in my Computer or Windows explorer, although the burner is recognised. Here's a funny thing, When I am burning a blu-ray disc in the LG burner, which is still does fine, If the disc is a RW, Power DVD appears on screen and starts to play the contents of the RW before erasure takes place and I have to remove Power DVD by clicking on the X and then burning procedure carries on.

Strange as I can't find Power DVD amongst the programmes listed on my PC. I am sure I had a shortcut for Power DVD on the desktop and it and the programme have dissapeared Regards Roy

Jeff Harper · December 1st, 2011, 09:22 AM

Roy, for the Power DVD thing, two things you want to do. Go to Auto Play in Control Panel and change your settings. I personally just uncheck the top box "Use Auto Play for all media and devices" which should help.

To get your icon back find the Power DVD folder on you C drive, probably in the Prgram Files (X86) folder, and poke around for the icon, copy it and paste it on your desktop.

November 28th, 2011, 10:13 AM	#1
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	capturing from Blu-ray Disc. I am using VMS platinum 10 HD and am getting on very well with it. However the following need is stumping me. My PC has two burners built in one is a Pioneer R/RW DVD burner which plays back to the PC with no bother. The other is the LG GGW-H20 Blu-ray disc rewriter and HD DVD-rom Drive. I am trying to capture the HD video from a Blu-ray disc to VMS 10 using the LG burner. VMS capture programme will not recognise the disc or the burner. VMS will capture a DVD disc STAND DEF from the pioneer. It's not that the LG is incompatible with VMS because it burns Blu-ray discs from VMS no trouble. At the moment then I can only capture SD DVD.copies of Blu-ray videos to upload to YouTube and the results are definately inferior. Can anyone throw any light on the problem. PLEASE. In case you are wondering why it is necessary for me to upload to YouTube using a Disc. It's because (idiotically) for the first time I forgot to transfer the finished video to Tape after making Blu-ray disc and DVD discs and so wiped off the videos from ther PC with no tape copies. I'll have to make a check list to follow in future.

November 28th, 2011, 10:37 AM	#2
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Roy, could you use windows to drag and drop the files from the Bluray disc to a new folder, then bring them into VMS? __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

November 28th, 2011, 01:57 PM	#3
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Jeff. I've just realised that the built in LG Blu-ray burner is not playing back to the PC. I have an LG standalone Blu-ray player. I wonder if I connect that to the PC if VMS would capture from it. Trouble is I wouldn't know how to make the connection. I could get a friendly expert in to do it I suppose. The DVD burner is connected to the PC, the Blu-ray burner must be as well or else I couldn't burn a Blu-ray. I am wondering if the Blu-ray burner is just that and is not meant to play back. Roy

November 28th, 2011, 02:05 PM	#4
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. I don't know but I feel certain you need to use a BR player made for a PC. If yours is not working you'll either need a new one or use someone else's to copy the files from the disc. Wish I had more to offer, good luck. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

November 28th, 2011, 06:01 PM	#5
Steve Game Major Player Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 353	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Roy, As this is a once-off exercise, I suggest that you download the trial version of AnyDVD HD from here: SlySoft Download \| AnyDVD, CloneDVD, CloneCD, GameJackal, Any DVD, Clone DVD, Clone CD, Game Jackal You can then rip the disc to HDD. Then it should be simple to load the video files onto the timeline. They are usually AVCHD/H264 types and are located in the '\BDMV\stream' folder. Sometimes the files don't want to load so you may need to run them through Handbrake. Steve

November 28th, 2011, 09:54 PM	#6
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Steve, Roy said the player isn't playing back, I assumed it was a hardware issue. His disc is not copy-protected, it's his own Bluray creation, I wouldn't think would benefit from AnyDVD HD, unless I'm missing something. If that is the case it wouldn't be the first time I've missed the obvious. Roy, why can't you open the disc in windows explorer and drag and drop? Does the disc not show up at all? Is the BR drive not showing up in My Computer? __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

November 29th, 2011, 02:45 AM	#7
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Jeff. Thanks for replies. I must emphasise that the Blu-ray burner is a built in HD/DVD/DVD rewriter and not a standalone blu-ray player. As I said before it burns Blu-ray discs from the PC (VMS 110 HD Platinum) but won't play them back. In fact when I try, the PC crashes I can't find out from the rewriter user guide whether it's meant to play back or not. The Blu-ray discs burnt with the re-writer play back perfectly with very good resolution all blu-ray standalone players. Unfortunately the standalone players have no firewire socketry to connect to the PC. With regard to your useful suggestions. The rewriter is making connection to the PC and has a shortcut on the desktop. When I click onto it a message tells me to insert a disc, as soon as I do, the whole lot crashes. regards Roy

November 29th, 2011, 11:45 AM	#8
Phil Lee Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: London Posts: 302	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Hi What operating system is it? If it is Vista or Windows 7 and up to date a Blu-ray disc should appear in My Computer and you can right click and Explore or Open it. On the disc browse to BDMV or BDAV and Stream and in here will be some .mt2s files, copy these to your computer and double click to play, they might need renaming to .mts if they don't play initially. Some of these will be menu items, but the larger files will be your footage. They should work as is in Sony Vegas. You can't play a Blu-ray disc like you would a DVD in Windows as no versions support Blu-ray playback, for that you need third party software, it might be that third party software crashing so make sure you have updates. If you are using Windows XP this will need third party UDF drivers just to read the disc, these are quite often flaky. Any thing else I don't know. Regards Phil

November 29th, 2011, 03:31 PM	#9
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Hi Phil. Thanks for the info. I am using XP so I've been trying to do something that's not possible. I have a friend who uses Wiondows 7 so I'll see if he can put the video on tape from the blu-ray disc using your info. Thanks again. Regards Roy

November 29th, 2011, 05:08 PM	#10
Steve Game Major Player Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 353	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Roy, The point I was trying to make was that AnyDVD HD comes with its own UDF drivers, so that it can work just as well on a XP system. Although AnyDVD will rip protected discs, I suggested it so that you can rip the video files on your own discs on any OS. Steve

November 29th, 2011, 06:17 PM	#11
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Roy, Steve, what Phil and I are saying is the disc doesn't need to be ripped, period. Roy, this is basic windows stuff. You open the disc up in my computer, just like opening any folder or accessing any DVD or any hard drive. You start in my computer, as Phil says, navigate to the disc, and drag and drop the files you want right off the disc, no ripping, nothing else is required. As long as the disc is recognized by windows in my computer, you're good to go. The disc doesn't need to be playable by your PC. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

November 30th, 2011, 02:51 PM	#12
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Hi Jeff. I tried what you have suggested but allthough the PC recognises the LG burner, It doesn't recognise it's contents of any disc I put in. In fact no matter what disc I put in it, the Programme crashes every time and also the pC itself and I have to re-boot. The same burner does the same when a DVD disc is inserted. So it looks as if something needs attention. A friend manages ok, he has a built in LG burner and uses Adobe CS5 and while he can't play the Blu-ray in windows 7, he can do what you have suggested and has managed to put the blu-ray video on his timeline. I am sending him my Blu-ray disc and hopefully he will transfer it's contents to DV tape cassette. Thanks for your input and everybody else who has answered my question. I will put all the suggestions in my personal manual I am making. regards Roy

November 30th, 2011, 03:05 PM	#13
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Roy, good luck. I'm just double checking here...Did you try going to my computer and then NOT left clicking but instead "right clicking" on the bluray icon and then click "open"?. Just want to make sure you are not left clicking. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

December 1st, 2011, 07:59 AM	#14
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Jeff. Yes I right clicked OK. I have noticed that the LG burner when handling a Standard DVD, will not have the contents shown either in my Computer or Windows explorer, although the burner is recognised. Here's a funny thing, When I am burning a blu-ray disc in the LG burner, which is still does fine, If the disc is a RW, Power DVD appears on screen and starts to play the contents of the RW before erasure takes place and I have to remove Power DVD by clicking on the X and then burning procedure carries on. Strange as I can't find Power DVD amongst the programmes listed on my PC. I am sure I had a shortcut for Power DVD on the desktop and it and the programme have dissapeared Regards Roy

December 1st, 2011, 09:22 AM	#15
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: capturing from Blu-ray Disc. Roy, for the Power DVD thing, two things you want to do. Go to Auto Play in Control Panel and change your settings. I personally just uncheck the top box "Use Auto Play for all media and devices" which should help. To get your icon back find the Power DVD folder on you C drive, probably in the Prgram Files (X86) folder, and poke around for the icon, copy it and paste it on your desktop. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."