More Rendering Issues AVI File Size? at DVinfo.net

Michael Dunn · November 16th, 2011, 06:48 PM

Here is the new problem

I have to render an AVI version of a short video. Total Running Time 17:45

I am working in Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9.0. The video is SD and the shoot format is 720 X 480. The total edit is 6 scenes tagged together with short dissolves in between the scenes. A fade in and fade out. No special effects of any kind.

The total file size of the original shoot video for the 6 scenes used is 4,279,724 MB. There is less than this amount used in the final edit because of editing some of the heads and tails of each scene.

I have two choices for a render to AVI

One is the Default Template (uncompressed) which in indicates an estimated file size of 183.52 MB

The other option is NTSC DV PCM Uncompressed. The estimated file size is 3.94 GB

I rendered the video in the Default Template to get the smaller file size.

The actual file size created is 41.2 GB

And, the render has no audio.

I rendered the video into NTSC DV PCM and the file size is 3.76GB shich is less that the estimate of 3.94GB

HELP!

Peter Manojlovic · November 16th, 2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Dunn

The other option is NTSC DV PCM Uncompressed. The estimated file size is 3.94 GB
HELP!

This is fine.
What seems to be the problem?

Michael Dunn · November 16th, 2011, 08:22 PM

The Default Template that indicated a small file actually created a huge file.

The Default Template (uncompressed) which in indicates an estimated file size of 183.52 MB. That is the pre render estimate. Using the Default Template it created a 41.2Gb file which is huge and it didin't have audio.

That is the render I am interested in finding what is going on.

Don Bloom · November 16th, 2011, 09:37 PM

Uncompressed DV-AVI files are HUGH as you have found out. Forget the default template and unless it's really necessary forget uncompressed.
Got thru the Render As menu and there should be NTSC-DV. Just use that and don't worry about the file size. Standard Definition DV files are for all intent and purposed 13 gigs per hour so if you have a 15 minute project then you'd have a rendered file size (provided you are rendering to DV-AVI) of about 3.25 gigs. This will include PCM (or WAV) audio.
Don't get too hung up on file size unless you're uploading to the net in which case AVI isn't the best way to go anyway. Remember SD-DV is 13 gigs per hour.

Michael Dunn · November 17th, 2011, 07:38 AM

Thanks Don.

It just seems strange that the redered size estimate was very small and the actual size was huge. I have learned my lesson.

I am on a steep learning curve here. I grew up in a family owned production company (starting with film) and ending with video production. I was primarily a producer and a director. I was never a technical person. I know what I want to accomplish as an editor but for many years I sat in an edit suite where somebody else pushed the buttons. For years as a director I could edit the project I was working on in my head. Now I am doing the physical act of editing. I can fly through the actual editing because I shot the video and knew how I was going to edit it. The technical aspects of it are what I am learning.

Thanks,
Michael

November 16th, 2011, 06:48 PM	#1
Michael Dunn Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Riverwoods, IL Posts: 65	More Rendering Issues AVI File Size? Here is the new problem I have to render an AVI version of a short video. Total Running Time 17:45 I am working in Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9.0. The video is SD and the shoot format is 720 X 480. The total edit is 6 scenes tagged together with short dissolves in between the scenes. A fade in and fade out. No special effects of any kind. The total file size of the original shoot video for the 6 scenes used is 4,279,724 MB. There is less than this amount used in the final edit because of editing some of the heads and tails of each scene. I have two choices for a render to AVI One is the Default Template (uncompressed) which in indicates an estimated file size of 183.52 MB The other option is NTSC DV PCM Uncompressed. The estimated file size is 3.94 GB I rendered the video in the Default Template to get the smaller file size. The actual file size created is 41.2 GB And, the render has no audio. I rendered the video into NTSC DV PCM and the file size is 3.76GB shich is less that the estimate of 3.94GB HELP! Last edited by Michael Dunn; November 16th, 2011 at 07:37 PM.

November 16th, 2011, 08:22 PM	#3
Michael Dunn Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Riverwoods, IL Posts: 65	Re: More Rendering Issues AVI File Size? The Default Template that indicated a small file actually created a huge file. The Default Template (uncompressed) which in indicates an estimated file size of 183.52 MB. That is the pre render estimate. Using the Default Template it created a 41.2Gb file which is huge and it didin't have audio. That is the render I am interested in finding what is going on.

November 16th, 2011, 09:37 PM	#4
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Re: More Rendering Issues AVI File Size? Uncompressed DV-AVI files are HUGH as you have found out. Forget the default template and unless it's really necessary forget uncompressed. Got thru the Render As menu and there should be NTSC-DV. Just use that and don't worry about the file size. Standard Definition DV files are for all intent and purposed 13 gigs per hour so if you have a 15 minute project then you'd have a rendered file size (provided you are rendering to DV-AVI) of about 3.25 gigs. This will include PCM (or WAV) audio. Don't get too hung up on file size unless you're uploading to the net in which case AVI isn't the best way to go anyway. Remember SD-DV is 13 gigs per hour. __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

November 17th, 2011, 07:38 AM	#5
Michael Dunn Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Riverwoods, IL Posts: 65	Re: More Rendering Issues AVI File Size? Thanks Don. It just seems strange that the redered size estimate was very small and the actual size was huge. I have learned my lesson. I am on a steep learning curve here. I grew up in a family owned production company (starting with film) and ending with video production. I was primarily a producer and a director. I was never a technical person. I know what I want to accomplish as an editor but for many years I sat in an edit suite where somebody else pushed the buttons. For years as a director I could edit the project I was working on in my head. Now I am doing the physical act of editing. I can fly through the actual editing because I shot the video and knew how I was going to edit it. The technical aspects of it are what I am learning. Thanks, Michael