New Computer for Sony Vegas 10

Dave Brytus · October 8th, 2011, 01:04 PM

Ok I am going to be buying a new computer to use with Sony Vegas 10. Not sure if I should get an i7 quad core or I7 Six core system. Below is the current specs I am looking at getting if I get the quad core. Let me know if this will be good?

These are the basic specs:

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Intel Core I7-960 Quad Core (3.2Ghz)
16 GB of Ram
1.5 TB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
3 GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT545

Chris Davis · October 8th, 2011, 03:04 PM

Either will handle Vegas 10 just fine. Set your budget and get the best computer you can with that amount.

Andy Wilkinson · October 8th, 2011, 03:15 PM

That spec should fly with Vegas. I have a lower spec i7 processor in a Windows 7 box running Vegas 9E - and it's pretty swift!

If you do a lot of Full HD editing like XDCAM EX or AVCHD2 (1080p50/50) etc. like I do then I'd recommend you get a system that has either a RAID 0 capability for your raw media (i.e. 2 discs ) or at the very least one that has 2 internal drives, i.e. one with your OS and Vegas on it and the other for the raw media. My concern is that you may get a bottleneck with respect to read/write speed of a single HDD, even a 7,200 rpm one, and so not do that lovely fast processor justice.

You seem to be skimping on the HDD provision to me. To my eye, it does not compliment with the other main components in the chain - and a computer is only as fast as it's weakest/slowest link. Others more up to date with Vegas 10 and PC specs can (I'm sure) elaborate further if needed - but that would be my suggestion.

Jeff Harper · October 10th, 2011, 11:06 AM

Dave the new intel processors are about to come out. I just bought a new i7 980, and while I like it, I REALLY wish I had waited. Apparently November. I had no idea or I would have waited.

I strongly suggest you consider waiting, but if not, as has been said, that will work.

But you know you'll want secondary drives to keep your video files on while your working on it (scratch drive) and a backup drive or two, right?

David Ruhland · October 12th, 2011, 05:38 AM

What are thoughts on the i7 2600 processor? I am about to get a new system too and am confused basically between the i7 9xx processor or this i7 2600. Any suggestions greatly appreciated

Dave Brytus · October 31st, 2011, 01:34 PM

Just to update I went ahead an ordered a new computer I will be using to edit HD video with Sony Vegas. Here are the specs. Please let me know if it looks ok.

HP Pavilion HPE h8xt

• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium [64-bit]
• Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 quad-core processor with Turbo-Boost [up to 3.8GHz, 8MB cache]
• 12GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
• 2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
• 2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
• 1GB DDR5 Radeon HD 6850 [2 DVI, 2 mini-DP, HDMI. VGA adapter]
• 600W Power supply
• SuperMulti DVD Burner
• Premium Wireless-N LAN card
• 15-in-1 memory card reader, 4 USB 2.0 (front), audio, 2 USB (top rear-facing) 2 USB 3.0 (Rear)

I also will be getting a 4TB Raid 0 External Hard Drive connected by USB 3.0 to use as a capture and edit drive.

Jeff Harper · October 31st, 2011, 01:58 PM

Sounds fine. Just remember to go into the power scheme and disable the hard drive from stopping, and turn off the USB suspension setting. These will cause hangups when editing, if you don't already know that.

Dale Guthormsen · October 31st, 2011, 06:22 PM

Jeff,

Do you do that for the turbo boost computer systems or any of them?

And where do you go to do those two things??

dale

Jeff Harper · November 1st, 2011, 02:05 AM

On any windows machine, regardless of processor these settings should be changed. I find it to be most important thing that I do when setting up a PC for editing.

In Windows 7:

1. Go to control panel > power options > select power plan.

2. Choose High Performance, than click on "Change Power Plan".

3. In following window click on Change Advanced Power Settings.

4. Scroll down to Hard disk and change setting to Never

5. Scroll down to USB settings and choose Disable.

When you don't do these things, when you are editing, Vegas will act hinky at times. USB drives get weird also.

Say you take a break from editing, and go back to work 20 minutes later. With the default Power Saving settings, the hard drives have all stopped. This will cause a "Vegas not Responding" episode because it cant' access the drives where the video files are located. After the drives have started spinning again then it's all good, but this can also cause a crash.

I mentioned this to Dave because I just reinstalled windows recently and forgot those settings, and Vegas behaved weird, especially when I saved projects to different drives. I changed those settings, and everything was perfect again.

David Ruhland · November 1st, 2011, 05:38 AM

Dave, you will love your new puter. I recently built one with the similer specs including the i7 2600 processor.

Jeff...Thanks for the info on power.saving mode I have been having some issues with that...

Chris Harding · November 1st, 2011, 05:52 AM

Hey Jeff

Will those settings still apply if I'm using a 2TB USB drive for my project and footage..My HDD only has Vegas installed on it so do the settings still apply????

Can you explain why you choose "Disable" for USB settings???Does that stop the USB drive from shutting down if it's not accessed?????

Thanks

Chris

Jeff Harper · November 1st, 2011, 06:48 AM

Chris, it will stop the PC from shutting down the USB, but it won't turn off any auto-off feature built into the drive itself. It's why I buy my own drives and enclosures and then assemble them myself. I can at least select the drive inside and and not worry about the case having some auto-sleep feature, which drives me crazy.

This seemingly small issue with the Power Settings can be a major pain in the rear, good thing to fix at the beginning.

Harm Millaard · November 1st, 2011, 07:04 AM

Couple of remarks that people do not seem to be aware of:

1. The X58 platform uses triple channel memory, so ONLY install 3 or 6 sticks, otherwise performance is degraded.

2. The SB platform uses dual channel memory, so ONLY install 2 or 4 sticks.

3. The X79 platform uses quad channel memory, so ONLY install 4 or 8 sticks.

For video editing disable all power saving settings, never spin down disks, never use screen savers, never use hibernation, etc.

If you want to use more than 16 GB ONLY use Win7 Pro. Home Premium does not support more than 16 GB. If you want to use a server or NAS for storage, get Pro, not Home Premium.

Chris Harding · November 1st, 2011, 08:25 AM

Thanks Guys!!!

Jeff??? I can't seem to find the "Never" setting on Win7 Pro?? Mine just allows me to change the minutes..however I set it for 150 minutes..there is no way I will be sitting staring at the screen for nearly 3 hours!!

Chris

Jeff Harper · November 1st, 2011, 08:31 AM

use the arrow button and take it down to 0 and it will change to never.

October 8th, 2011, 01:04 PM	#1
Dave Brytus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 38	New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Ok I am going to be buying a new computer to use with Sony Vegas 10. Not sure if I should get an i7 quad core or I7 Six core system. Below is the current specs I am looking at getting if I get the quad core. Let me know if this will be good? These are the basic specs: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Intel Core I7-960 Quad Core (3.2Ghz) 16 GB of Ram 1.5 TB 7200 rpm Hard Drive 3 GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT545

October 8th, 2011, 03:04 PM	#2
Chris Davis Trustee Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Willmar, MN Posts: 1,400	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Either will handle Vegas 10 just fine. Set your budget and get the best computer you can with that amount.

October 8th, 2011, 03:15 PM	#3
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core That spec should fly with Vegas. I have a lower spec i7 processor in a Windows 7 box running Vegas 9E - and it's pretty swift! If you do a lot of Full HD editing like XDCAM EX or AVCHD2 (1080p50/50) etc. like I do then I'd recommend you get a system that has either a RAID 0 capability for your raw media (i.e. 2 discs ) or at the very least one that has 2 internal drives, i.e. one with your OS and Vegas on it and the other for the raw media. My concern is that you may get a bottleneck with respect to read/write speed of a single HDD, even a 7,200 rpm one, and so not do that lovely fast processor justice. You seem to be skimping on the HDD provision to me. To my eye, it does not compliment with the other main components in the chain - and a computer is only as fast as it's weakest/slowest link. Others more up to date with Vegas 10 and PC specs can (I'm sure) elaborate further if needed - but that would be my suggestion. __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

October 10th, 2011, 11:06 AM	#4
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Dave the new intel processors are about to come out. I just bought a new i7 980, and while I like it, I REALLY wish I had waited. Apparently November. I had no idea or I would have waited. I strongly suggest you consider waiting, but if not, as has been said, that will work. But you know you'll want secondary drives to keep your video files on while your working on it (scratch drive) and a backup drive or two, right? __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

October 12th, 2011, 05:38 AM	#5
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	Processor comparison? What are thoughts on the i7 2600 processor? I am about to get a new system too and am confused basically between the i7 9xx processor or this i7 2600. Any suggestions greatly appreciated __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

October 31st, 2011, 01:34 PM	#6
Dave Brytus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 38	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Just to update I went ahead an ordered a new computer I will be using to edit HD video with Sony Vegas. Here are the specs. Please let me know if it looks ok. HP Pavilion HPE h8xt • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium [64-bit] • Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 quad-core processor with Turbo-Boost [up to 3.8GHz, 8MB cache] • 12GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs] • 2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive • 2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive • 1GB DDR5 Radeon HD 6850 [2 DVI, 2 mini-DP, HDMI. VGA adapter] • 600W Power supply • SuperMulti DVD Burner • Premium Wireless-N LAN card • 15-in-1 memory card reader, 4 USB 2.0 (front), audio, 2 USB (top rear-facing) 2 USB 3.0 (Rear) I also will be getting a 4TB Raid 0 External Hard Drive connected by USB 3.0 to use as a capture and edit drive.

October 31st, 2011, 01:58 PM	#7
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Sounds fine. Just remember to go into the power scheme and disable the hard drive from stopping, and turn off the USB suspension setting. These will cause hangups when editing, if you don't already know that. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

October 31st, 2011, 06:22 PM	#8
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Jeff, Do you do that for the turbo boost computer systems or any of them? And where do you go to do those two things?? dale __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

November 1st, 2011, 02:05 AM	#9
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core On any windows machine, regardless of processor these settings should be changed. I find it to be most important thing that I do when setting up a PC for editing. In Windows 7: 1. Go to control panel > power options > select power plan. 2. Choose High Performance, than click on "Change Power Plan". 3. In following window click on Change Advanced Power Settings. 4. Scroll down to Hard disk and change setting to Never 5. Scroll down to USB settings and choose Disable. When you don't do these things, when you are editing, Vegas will act hinky at times. USB drives get weird also. Say you take a break from editing, and go back to work 20 minutes later. With the default Power Saving settings, the hard drives have all stopped. This will cause a "Vegas not Responding" episode because it cant' access the drives where the video files are located. After the drives have started spinning again then it's all good, but this can also cause a crash. I mentioned this to Dave because I just reinstalled windows recently and forgot those settings, and Vegas behaved weird, especially when I saved projects to different drives. I changed those settings, and everything was perfect again. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described." Last edited by Jeff Harper; November 1st, 2011 at 02:35 AM.

November 1st, 2011, 05:38 AM	#10
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Dave, you will love your new puter. I recently built one with the similer specs including the i7 2600 processor. Jeff...Thanks for the info on power.saving mode I have been having some issues with that... __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

November 1st, 2011, 05:52 AM	#11
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Hey Jeff Will those settings still apply if I'm using a 2TB USB drive for my project and footage..My HDD only has Vegas installed on it so do the settings still apply???? Can you explain why you choose "Disable" for USB settings???Does that stop the USB drive from shutting down if it's not accessed????? Thanks Chris

November 1st, 2011, 06:48 AM	#12
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Chris, it will stop the PC from shutting down the USB, but it won't turn off any auto-off feature built into the drive itself. It's why I buy my own drives and enclosures and then assemble them myself. I can at least select the drive inside and and not worry about the case having some auto-sleep feature, which drives me crazy. This seemingly small issue with the Power Settings can be a major pain in the rear, good thing to fix at the beginning. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

November 1st, 2011, 07:04 AM	#13
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Couple of remarks that people do not seem to be aware of: 1. The X58 platform uses triple channel memory, so ONLY install 3 or 6 sticks, otherwise performance is degraded. 2. The SB platform uses dual channel memory, so ONLY install 2 or 4 sticks. 3. The X79 platform uses quad channel memory, so ONLY install 4 or 8 sticks. For video editing disable all power saving settings, never spin down disks, never use screen savers, never use hibernation, etc. If you want to use more than 16 GB ONLY use Win7 Pro. Home Premium does not support more than 16 GB. If you want to use a server or NAS for storage, get Pro, not Home Premium.

November 1st, 2011, 08:25 AM	#14
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core Thanks Guys!!! Jeff??? I can't seem to find the "Never" setting on Win7 Pro?? Mine just allows me to change the minutes..however I set it for 150 minutes..there is no way I will be sitting staring at the screen for nearly 3 hours!! Chris

November 1st, 2011, 08:31 AM	#15
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: New Computer for Sony Vegas 10 - Quad core or Six Core use the arrow button and take it down to 0 and it will change to never. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."