Plural Eyes

Jeff Harper · October 5th, 2011, 10:06 AM

When I first heard about Plural Eyes months ago on this forum, I had read that it took someone overnight to process their project with it. Based on that single comment, I forgot about it, thinking I might as well continue synching up my footage as I had always done, and save time.

Since I now have many 4 camera shoots to work on, in desperation I downloaded the trial.

Now, I am just like everyone else that has tried the software. It is amazing, it is fast, and I absolutely could not live without it.

I'm using it now on a four hour 4 camera shoot, and it is working at almost blinding speed, and will likely have performed it's task in less than 5 or ten minutes.

If you do multi-camera editing shoots, Plural Eyes is a no brainer.

Greg Clark · October 5th, 2011, 11:22 AM

Maybe it works well with Vegas. I cannot say the same for Premiere Pro CS5.5.

Jeff Harper · October 5th, 2011, 11:40 AM

With Vegas there was no learning curve, nothing, it was click and go, so yes it works perfectly in Vegas. Sorry to hear that it doesn't work so well with Premier.

Nicholas de Kock · October 5th, 2011, 03:08 PM

Oh no Jeff with all the talk that's been going on here and you've only tried it out now? Sad sad ;) I've been using it for as long it was released and I never ever do manual sync's anymore and the latest version is incredibly fast, amazing software worthy of an award, heck if I don't have Plural Eyes available to sync my video I refuse to edit, spoiled haha. I've tried it on Premiere and it really sucks! Not as easy as the one button operation we have in Vegas, you have to export as XML, do this, do that, a complete mess.

Jeff Harper · October 5th, 2011, 04:00 PM

Sad is right, I'm still kicking myself. The wedding I did a couple of weeks ago I spend nearly a whole day syncing, I had hours of footage and a shooter that constantly turned off his camera and then back on, and I had to sync up 14 hours worth of footage. It was a nightmare. That was what prompted me to try out PE.

D.J. Ammons · October 11th, 2011, 04:44 PM

I use Sony Vegas Pro and as I have posted before PluralEyes is the best money I have ever spent! Amazing software. The other must have inexpensive software for Vegas Pro are both from FBmn Software. Their white balance and exposure software are amazing and only about $45 each.

Chris Barcellos · October 11th, 2011, 04:50 PM

I actually use the stand alone version called Dual Eyes. With my DSLR footage I convert everything to Cineform for ease of dditing. Then put the captured sound and Cineform files in a directory, and then tell Dual Eyes to synch it. I come back later and I have either individual sound files trimmed exactly to the length of each clip and named to match the clips, or ( if I have selected it) entirely new Cineform files mated with the captured sound.

Jeff Harper · October 11th, 2011, 06:17 PM

Wow, that is amazing. Seriously. Very cool.

Graham Bernard · October 11th, 2011, 10:16 PM

Am I correct in thinking that Plural Eyes is purely for synching? Does it have multicam editing functions too?

TIA

Grazie

Jeff Harper · October 11th, 2011, 10:40 PM

Plural Eyes syncs the audio from video clips for multicam editing. It's purpose is to sync up video clips for purposes of multicamera editing. You lay the footage out in Vegas, and you place footage from, say Camera One on one timeline, then camera two on another timeline, etc, and then you start plural eyes and it syncs it up.

Graham Bernard · October 11th, 2011, 10:43 PM

So "yes" to synching, but "no" to multicam editing?

Grazie

Jeff Harper · October 11th, 2011, 11:06 PM

Yes, it is a synching program, not an editing program. For great multicam editing I use Ultimate S, it's fantastic.

Graham Bernard · October 12th, 2011, 12:07 AM

So, after Plural Eyes syncing you go on to use UltimateS Pro for multicam editing? Yes? I'm assuming there isn't syncing in UliS?

Grazie

Jeff Harper · October 12th, 2011, 01:04 AM

Correct, Plural Eyes is all there is for synching unless someone knows something else, I've not heard of it.

Vasst also sells a standalone multicamera plug in for Vegas which would give you the multicam feature without having to buy the whole Ultimate S program. Visit VASST website for the free trial version.

Noa Put · October 12th, 2011, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicholas de Kock

I've tried it on Premiere and it really sucks!

same experience here, tried the pe trial and it completely messed up, maybe I did something wrong but it wasn't quite intuitive to use.

October 5th, 2011, 10:06 AM	#1
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Plural Eyes - no brainer When I first heard about Plural Eyes months ago on this forum, I had read that it took someone overnight to process their project with it. Based on that single comment, I forgot about it, thinking I might as well continue synching up my footage as I had always done, and save time. Since I now have many 4 camera shoots to work on, in desperation I downloaded the trial. Now, I am just like everyone else that has tried the software. It is amazing, it is fast, and I absolutely could not live without it. I'm using it now on a four hour 4 camera shoot, and it is working at almost blinding speed, and will likely have performed it's task in less than 5 or ten minutes. If you do multi-camera editing shoots, Plural Eyes is a no brainer. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

October 5th, 2011, 11:22 AM	#2
Greg Clark Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surprise Arizona Posts: 297	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer Maybe it works well with Vegas. I cannot say the same for Premiere Pro CS5.5.

October 5th, 2011, 11:40 AM	#3
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer With Vegas there was no learning curve, nothing, it was click and go, so yes it works perfectly in Vegas. Sorry to hear that it doesn't work so well with Premier. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

October 5th, 2011, 03:08 PM	#4
Nicholas de Kock Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: KLD, South Africa Posts: 983	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer Oh no Jeff with all the talk that's been going on here and you've only tried it out now? Sad sad ;) I've been using it for as long it was released and I never ever do manual sync's anymore and the latest version is incredibly fast, amazing software worthy of an award, heck if I don't have Plural Eyes available to sync my video I refuse to edit, spoiled haha. I've tried it on Premiere and it really sucks! Not as easy as the one button operation we have in Vegas, you have to export as XML, do this, do that, a complete mess.

October 5th, 2011, 04:00 PM	#5
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer Sad is right, I'm still kicking myself. The wedding I did a couple of weeks ago I spend nearly a whole day syncing, I had hours of footage and a shooter that constantly turned off his camera and then back on, and I had to sync up 14 hours worth of footage. It was a nightmare. That was what prompted me to try out PE. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

October 11th, 2011, 04:44 PM	#6
D.J. Ammons Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 506	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer I use Sony Vegas Pro and as I have posted before PluralEyes is the best money I have ever spent! Amazing software. The other must have inexpensive software for Vegas Pro are both from FBmn Software. Their white balance and exposure software are amazing and only about $45 each.

October 11th, 2011, 04:50 PM	#7
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer I actually use the stand alone version called Dual Eyes. With my DSLR footage I convert everything to Cineform for ease of dditing. Then put the captured sound and Cineform files in a directory, and then tell Dual Eyes to synch it. I come back later and I have either individual sound files trimmed exactly to the length of each clip and named to match the clips, or ( if I have selected it) entirely new Cineform files mated with the captured sound. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

October 11th, 2011, 06:17 PM	#8
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer Wow, that is amazing. Seriously. Very cool. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

October 11th, 2011, 10:16 PM	#9
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer Am I correct in thinking that Plural Eyes is purely for synching? Does it have multicam editing functions too? TIA Grazie

October 11th, 2011, 10:40 PM	#10
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer Plural Eyes syncs the audio from video clips for multicam editing. It's purpose is to sync up video clips for purposes of multicamera editing. You lay the footage out in Vegas, and you place footage from, say Camera One on one timeline, then camera two on another timeline, etc, and then you start plural eyes and it syncs it up. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

October 11th, 2011, 10:43 PM	#11
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer So "yes" to synching, but "no" to multicam editing? Grazie

October 11th, 2011, 11:06 PM	#12
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer Yes, it is a synching program, not an editing program. For great multicam editing I use Ultimate S, it's fantastic. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

October 12th, 2011, 12:07 AM	#13
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer So, after Plural Eyes syncing you go on to use UltimateS Pro for multicam editing? Yes? I'm assuming there isn't syncing in UliS? Grazie

October 12th, 2011, 01:04 AM	#14
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Plural Eyes - no brainer Correct, Plural Eyes is all there is for synching unless someone knows something else, I've not heard of it. Vasst also sells a standalone multicamera plug in for Vegas which would give you the multicam feature without having to buy the whole Ultimate S program. Visit VASST website for the free trial version. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."