Vegas Pro 10E- defective transition at DVinfo.net

Ron German · August 6th, 2011, 08:22 AM

After horror experiences with versions 9e and 10D trying to render Cineform codec mixed with Sony MXF and jpeg photos in a 90`timeline (black frames, low memory messages / render interruption, etc), now version 10E (64 bits) seems be a bit better in my recent tests, but it has generated this kind of problems (in this case, some defective frames in a transition):

What kind of error is this?
Thanks

Intel dual core 2, - 3GHZ processor - Windows 7 professional 64 bits - 6 RAM

Phil Lee · August 6th, 2011, 09:09 AM

Hi

Is it smart rendering? Do you see a black preview window for some of the time saying rendering isn't required?

What are you rendering to? The blocks tend to suggest an encoding problem. Fades and transitions are quite a challenge for lots of encoders, and they can struggle if pushed too hard or there are lots of transitions if quick succession for example.

What if you export it as Sony YUV and watch it back, is that problem free?

Regards

Phil

Mike Kujbida · August 6th, 2011, 09:13 AM

Ron, what's the source footage that you converted with Cineform?
Same thing for the MXF footage.
How big (in pixels) are your stills?
I'm wondering if this is a case of your computer (it is definitely underpowered) just can't handle the footage.

Ron German · August 6th, 2011, 01:41 PM

Thank you Phil and Mike
My system should be enough, according to Sony and Cineform minimum system requirements.
HDV (from HV20) converted to Cineform codec.
h.264 (from Canon T2i) converted to Sony MXF 35 mbits
Photos jpeg maximum 3200 X...resolution
Not smart rendering
This problem happened rendering to Cineform Codec and to (QT) DNXHD with 23`part of my doc project.
I didn`t try to export it to Sony YUV with Vegas Pro 10 E yet, but with version D the render was too slow and used to stop with low memory messages.
But surprisingly, with version E, the system crashes and black frames ramdomly found along the render process seems not happen.

Ron German · August 7th, 2011, 09:41 AM

More defective frames, but now one frame inside inside a rendered clip.
What`s the source of this error?
Maybe one error frame in a 20` rendered file (in this case, to DNXHD codec).
So I don`t know how to do a "safe" render.

Eric Olson · August 9th, 2011, 12:26 AM

It would appear you have defective hardware. Have you overclocked either your CPU, memory or graphics card? If so, set your hardware back to factory defaults.

Leslie Wand · August 9th, 2011, 12:48 AM

how many hd's in your system?

running any other apps at the same time, such as nortons?

Ron German · August 9th, 2011, 09:33 AM

Thank you Eric and Leslie
I didn`t overclock CPU, memory or graphics card.
No Norton. 3 hard disks.

August 6th, 2011, 08:22 AM	#1
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Vegas Pro 10E- defective transition After horror experiences with versions 9e and 10D trying to render Cineform codec mixed with Sony MXF and jpeg photos in a 90`timeline (black frames, low memory messages / render interruption, etc), now version 10E (64 bits) seems be a bit better in my recent tests, but it has generated this kind of problems (in this case, some defective frames in a transition): What kind of error is this? Thanks Intel dual core 2, - 3GHZ processor - Windows 7 professional 64 bits - 6 RAM Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Ron German; August 6th, 2011 at 08:49 AM. Reason: Not including file

August 6th, 2011, 09:09 AM	#2
Phil Lee Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: London Posts: 302	Re: Vegas Pro 10E- defective transition Hi Is it smart rendering? Do you see a black preview window for some of the time saying rendering isn't required? What are you rendering to? The blocks tend to suggest an encoding problem. Fades and transitions are quite a challenge for lots of encoders, and they can struggle if pushed too hard or there are lots of transitions if quick succession for example. What if you export it as Sony YUV and watch it back, is that problem free? Regards Phil

August 6th, 2011, 09:13 AM	#3
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Vegas Pro 10E- defective transition Ron, what's the source footage that you converted with Cineform? Same thing for the MXF footage. How big (in pixels) are your stills? I'm wondering if this is a case of your computer (it is definitely underpowered) just can't handle the footage.

August 6th, 2011, 01:41 PM	#4
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Re: Vegas Pro 10E- defective transition Thank you Phil and Mike My system should be enough, according to Sony and Cineform minimum system requirements. HDV (from HV20) converted to Cineform codec. h.264 (from Canon T2i) converted to Sony MXF 35 mbits Photos jpeg maximum 3200 X...resolution Not smart rendering This problem happened rendering to Cineform Codec and to (QT) DNXHD with 23`part of my doc project. I didn`t try to export it to Sony YUV with Vegas Pro 10 E yet, but with version D the render was too slow and used to stop with low memory messages. But surprisingly, with version E, the system crashes and black frames ramdomly found along the render process seems not happen.

August 7th, 2011, 09:41 AM	#5
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Now defective frames More defective frames, but now one frame inside inside a rendered clip. What`s the source of this error? Maybe one error frame in a 20` rendered file (in this case, to DNXHD codec). So I don`t know how to do a "safe" render. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Ron German; August 7th, 2011 at 08:35 PM.

August 9th, 2011, 12:26 AM	#6
Eric Olson Major Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 553	Re: Vegas Pro 10E- defective transition It would appear you have defective hardware. Have you overclocked either your CPU, memory or graphics card? If so, set your hardware back to factory defaults.

August 9th, 2011, 12:48 AM	#7
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: Vegas Pro 10E- defective transition how many hd's in your system? running any other apps at the same time, such as nortons? __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

August 9th, 2011, 09:33 AM	#8
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Re: Vegas Pro 10E- defective transition Thank you Eric and Leslie I didn`t overclock CPU, memory or graphics card. No Norton. 3 hard disks.