Pan Crop Question (V9.0) at DVinfo.net

Jim Andrada · July 7th, 2011, 04:26 PM

I have four clips in the timeline and I want to crop everything. I've grouped the clips but this doesn't seem to do it. No matter what I try I can't seem to get the crop to apply to everything on the timeline. I'm stumped.

Is there any way to permanently join the clips into a single event without rendering and re-opening???

David Jimerson · July 7th, 2011, 09:21 PM

Do the crop on a clip. Copy it. Select the others. Right-click. Choose "paste event attributes."

Do this before you add any FX to the clip you copy.

Jim Andrada · July 7th, 2011, 10:11 PM

Thanks David

I will give it a try.

Although it does seem strange that one can't just somehow join the clips into one event.

By the way I finally just broke down and rendered the video and then applied the crop.

Leslie Wand · July 8th, 2011, 06:45 AM

interesting to see what it looks like if you put it through mercalli......

Jim Andrada · July 8th, 2011, 10:23 AM

Funny you should ask - I tried it last night and I think it looked pretty good - except couldn't successfully export it from Mercalli (Stand alone version).When I tried outputting as WMV it just hung up and when I tried outputting as AVI there was a watermark of some kind on the footage (???? it's the paid version ????)

Reason for all the shaking was that I had the camera up on a 13 foot light stand which was wiggling around pretty well in the breeze. Next time I'll climb the ladder and attach it directly to the rain spout.

Re the time-lapse it was a GoPro HD (which is why I didn't sweat putting it up there) recording one frame every 10 seconds which I think turned out to give a nicely fluid appearance to the clouds.

Jim Andrada · July 8th, 2011, 12:30 PM

OK, here's the Mercalli stabilized version. This storm came through Wednesday about when Phoenix was being hit by a 100 mile wide dust storm. We also had one Tuesday but wouldn't have seen anything as it was like driving a car at speed through a huge puddle - couldn't see anything at all.

Sort of a mixed bag - more stable, but a fair amount of loss of sharpness due to zooming as well as some color/brightness degradation. All things considered best answer is to find a more secure perch for the camera even if I have to climb a ladder to get to it

As a bonus here's yesterday's storm

This stabilized much better IMHO

Jeff Harper · July 8th, 2011, 01:36 PM

I like the non stabilized version of your first video best, the movement of the camera adds to the effect of video somehow. It's real. Didn't need fixed up, IMO. On the other hand Mercali does do a great job, doesn't it?

Jim Andrada · July 8th, 2011, 02:19 PM

Actually I'm exactly with you - it gives it more of a "you were there" feel.

I also think that Mercalli has a lot of bang for the buck for really hand held shots in particular. The 10 second interval also seemed to give a good sense of the fluidity of the clouds. I tried a couple of other frame rates but keep coming back to the 10 sec interval.

July 7th, 2011, 04:26 PM	#1
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Pan Crop Question (V9.0) I have four clips in the timeline and I want to crop everything. I've grouped the clips but this doesn't seem to do it. No matter what I try I can't seem to get the crop to apply to everything on the timeline. I'm stumped. Is there any way to permanently join the clips into a single event without rendering and re-opening???

July 7th, 2011, 09:21 PM	#2
David Jimerson Jubal 28 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 872	Re: Pan Crop Question (V9.0) Do the crop on a clip. Copy it. Select the others. Right-click. Choose "paste event attributes." Do this before you add any FX to the clip you copy. __________________ www.wrightsvillebeachstudios.com

July 7th, 2011, 10:11 PM	#3
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Re: Pan Crop Question (V9.0) Thanks David I will give it a try. Although it does seem strange that one can't just somehow join the clips into one event. By the way I finally just broke down and rendered the video and then applied the crop. Untitled on Vimeo

July 8th, 2011, 06:45 AM	#4
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: Pan Crop Question (V9.0) interesting to see what it looks like if you put it through mercalli...... __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

July 8th, 2011, 10:23 AM	#5
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Re: Pan Crop Question (V9.0) Funny you should ask - I tried it last night and I think it looked pretty good - except couldn't successfully export it from Mercalli (Stand alone version).When I tried outputting as WMV it just hung up and when I tried outputting as AVI there was a watermark of some kind on the footage (???? it's the paid version ????) Reason for all the shaking was that I had the camera up on a 13 foot light stand which was wiggling around pretty well in the breeze. Next time I'll climb the ladder and attach it directly to the rain spout. Re the time-lapse it was a GoPro HD (which is why I didn't sweat putting it up there) recording one frame every 10 seconds which I think turned out to give a nicely fluid appearance to the clouds.

July 8th, 2011, 12:30 PM	#6
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Re: Pan Crop Question (V9.0) OK, here's the Mercalli stabilized version. This storm came through Wednesday about when Phoenix was being hit by a 100 mile wide dust storm. We also had one Tuesday but wouldn't have seen anything as it was like driving a car at speed through a huge puddle - couldn't see anything at all. Monsoon Clouds over the Santa Catalina Mountains, Tucson Stabilized on Vimeo Sort of a mixed bag - more stable, but a fair amount of loss of sharpness due to zooming as well as some color/brightness degradation. All things considered best answer is to find a more secure perch for the camera even if I have to climb a ladder to get to it As a bonus here's yesterday's storm Untitled on Vimeo This stabilized much better IMHO

July 8th, 2011, 01:36 PM	#7
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Pan Crop Question (V9.0) I like the non stabilized version of your first video best, the movement of the camera adds to the effect of video somehow. It's real. Didn't need fixed up, IMO. On the other hand Mercali does do a great job, doesn't it? __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

July 8th, 2011, 02:19 PM	#8
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Re: Pan Crop Question (V9.0) Actually I'm exactly with you - it gives it more of a "you were there" feel. I also think that Mercalli has a lot of bang for the buck for really hand held shots in particular. The 10 second interval also seemed to give a good sense of the fluidity of the clouds. I tried a couple of other frame rates but keep coming back to the 10 sec interval.