vegas 10d Auto Ripple Bug or not? at DVinfo.net

Richard Green · May 21st, 2011, 09:27 AM

Hi,
Has anyone had a problem with auto ripple. I wanted to remove a clip in the middle of the project timeline.
After removal I switched autoripple on and dragged all clips from the right to fill the gap left by the removed clip. No problem I thought, until I checked the end of the timeline, only to find that many of the transitions at the end of my timeline hadn't been moved or were on the wrong clips, anybody had this problem?

RichardG

Richard Jones · May 22nd, 2011, 04:22 AM

Don't know if this is the answer but have you checked the options in the Drop Down Menu next to the Auto Ripple button?

Alternatively it might be a question of enabling/disabling Grouping.

Richard

Edward Troxel · May 22nd, 2011, 06:05 AM

I always leave auto ripple turned OFF. Then I select all the clips right of the cursor and just drag them left. A script can easily select all events right of the cursor (I happen to use Excalibur) and then I know exactly what I'm moving. If I only want to move one track, I'll right-click the first event to move and choose "Select events to end". But I've never seen auto ripple change transitions in the times that I have played with it.

Dale Guthormsen · May 22nd, 2011, 06:06 PM

Richard,

I have seen that and it has always been based around grouping!!

I use a shuttle and it is an expedient way to auto ripple or non auto, But I have groupong beside ripple and delete and sometimes I hit it and then I have those problems.

I also use excalibur when I have to be real careful!!!

Richard Green · May 23rd, 2011, 01:34 AM

Hi all,
Thanks for replies
Richard, Yes I have checked the options on the button and use the last one which is supposed to move
everything.
Edward, I normaly leave auto ripple off particularly when deleting clips. But when introducing new clips to
the middle of a project I switch it on as it is supposed to move everything down the timeline automatically.
I have seen this "bug" before in very early versions of vegas, but not noticed it v9 or even the first version of 10.
Dale, thanks for confirming there is a problem, on my particular project I don't have anything grouped.
It's happening on my end titles which of course are generated media consisting of a backdrop on one track
and text being moved in using transition on two tracks. If I move everything with auto ripple some of the transistions either change size, say from 2 seconds to zero, completely messing up the effect. I have also noticed track volume level points will also change position. Which means everytime I do an auto ripple I have to check everything to the right. Will have to do what Ed suggests from now on I think.

RichardG

David Jimerson · May 30th, 2011, 08:33 AM

The better way to use Auto Ripple is not to drag clips manually, but to use the Delete key to eliminate the space. You can delete the clip directly, or leave ripple off, delete the clip, select the empty space on the timeline, turn the ripple on, and delete the space.

Obviously, this isn't always as simple as that, especially if you have a complex edit around the clip you're trying to delete -- but in most cases where using the ripple is appropriate, it's a best practice.

May 21st, 2011, 09:27 AM	#1
Richard Green Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 60	vegas 10d Auto Ripple Bug or not? Hi, Has anyone had a problem with auto ripple. I wanted to remove a clip in the middle of the project timeline. After removal I switched autoripple on and dragged all clips from the right to fill the gap left by the removed clip. No problem I thought, until I checked the end of the timeline, only to find that many of the transitions at the end of my timeline hadn't been moved or were on the wrong clips, anybody had this problem? RichardG

May 22nd, 2011, 04:22 AM	#2
Richard Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Woking, England Posts: 116	Re: vegas 10d Auto Ripple Bug or not? Don't know if this is the answer but have you checked the options in the Drop Down Menu next to the Auto Ripple button? Alternatively it might be a question of enabling/disabling Grouping. Richard

May 22nd, 2011, 06:05 AM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Re: vegas 10d Auto Ripple Bug or not? I always leave auto ripple turned OFF. Then I select all the clips right of the cursor and just drag them left. A script can easily select all events right of the cursor (I happen to use Excalibur) and then I know exactly what I'm moving. If I only want to move one track, I'll right-click the first event to move and choose "Select events to end". But I've never seen auto ripple change transitions in the times that I have played with it. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 22nd, 2011, 06:06 PM	#4
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: vegas 10d Auto Ripple Bug or not? Richard, I have seen that and it has always been based around grouping!! I use a shuttle and it is an expedient way to auto ripple or non auto, But I have groupong beside ripple and delete and sometimes I hit it and then I have those problems. I also use excalibur when I have to be real careful!!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

May 23rd, 2011, 01:34 AM	#5
Richard Green Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 60	Re: vegas 10d Auto Ripple Bug or not? Hi all, Thanks for replies Richard, Yes I have checked the options on the button and use the last one which is supposed to move everything. Edward, I normaly leave auto ripple off particularly when deleting clips. But when introducing new clips to the middle of a project I switch it on as it is supposed to move everything down the timeline automatically. I have seen this "bug" before in very early versions of vegas, but not noticed it v9 or even the first version of 10. Dale, thanks for confirming there is a problem, on my particular project I don't have anything grouped. It's happening on my end titles which of course are generated media consisting of a backdrop on one track and text being moved in using transition on two tracks. If I move everything with auto ripple some of the transistions either change size, say from 2 seconds to zero, completely messing up the effect. I have also noticed track volume level points will also change position. Which means everytime I do an auto ripple I have to check everything to the right. Will have to do what Ed suggests from now on I think. RichardG

May 30th, 2011, 08:33 AM	#6
David Jimerson Jubal 28 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 872	Re: vegas 10d Auto Ripple Bug or not? The better way to use Auto Ripple is not to drag clips manually, but to use the Delete key to eliminate the space. You can delete the clip directly, or leave ripple off, delete the clip, select the empty space on the timeline, turn the ripple on, and delete the space. Obviously, this isn't always as simple as that, especially if you have a complex edit around the clip you're trying to delete -- but in most cases where using the ripple is appropriate, it's a best practice.