Can I eliminate the Wooshing noise in Vegas? at DVinfo.net

David Ruhland · February 15th, 2011, 08:45 AM

I am trying to figure out how to eliminate the "wooshing" Whooshing" noise from the audio. Ideally Iwould like to figure this out and eliminate it during the initial acquistion.

I am using Sony professional headphones, and the minute i plug them in I hear a sound. It doesnt matter what camera I try them on...Perhaps this is normal as I am comparing them to Bose Noise reduction headphones i used to wear when i traveled back and forth to Asia.

I play with the Audio Gain Control and it doesnt seem to help. I have tried both MAnual Audio input control and Automatic Gain Control.

So if I cant stop it before post...I am trying to remove it

I have tried adjusting the threshold level in the Track Noise Gate Audio effects, but I am unable to find a happy medium, as the woosh becomes intermittent. and the sound is unnatural as it appears to be cutting in and out.

Thoughts-Suggestions?

Don Bloom · February 15th, 2011, 08:49 AM

David,
It kind of sounds like it might be the camera preamp OR the wireless causing this. If you could email me a small sample I think I might be able to help you out on it. I have a couple of presets that might work.
Make sure the sample has both the noise and someone speaking so I can compare it.

Adam Stanislav · February 15th, 2011, 10:03 AM

It sounds like a problem with your headphones or the electronics feeding the headphones.

On the Vegas audio track take a look at the sound wave representation of a portion where there should be no sound. If it is just a smooth line, there is no noise regardless of what your headphones are telling you. If there is noise, it shows as tiny spikes on the line. You may need to zoom in to see it well.

Mike Kujbida · February 15th, 2011, 10:29 AM

David, when I got my first pair of really good headphones a number of years ago, I was astounded at how bad I thought my field recordings were.
It turned out the headphones were too good as I couldn't hear those same sounds back in the edit suite on a good set of monitors (Yamaha NS-10M).
Make sure this isn't what's happening to you too.

David Ruhland · February 15th, 2011, 10:47 AM

Thanks guys... im a lil perplexed... it doesnt help matters that I have tinnutis! I can compensentate for that constant ringing in my ears... but its definate wooshing.

Just for the fun of it i did a little experiment and recorded to my zoom h4n. Sounds great when i bring into Vegas.. plug mic into the Beachtek or the camera direct....Woosh!...

I tried it on another camera as well..with the same results.

David Ruhland · February 15th, 2011, 02:00 PM

Perhaps my inexperience is hearing something that is normal and translating it into a problem. I have attached a test file in .wav format for you pros to review.

Don Bloom · February 15th, 2011, 02:57 PM

I listened on my laptop with sime cheap headphones so I could be wrong here but there seem to be a little noise in the background but that could be the phones I had on. If it isn't then the fix is pretty simple.

OK forget this. I just realized I had this set up to send to someone else for a different audio problem so it doesn't apply here.

I DID listen to it on my edit machine and by using the 20 band GRaphic EQ and going to the 900 to 7.2K bands the noise can be adjusted out but be careful as you can also interfere with the voice as well.

Mike Kujbida · February 15th, 2011, 05:19 PM

By no means am I even reasonably competent in the use of iZotope RX but I ran your clip through the Denoiser tool using the default settings and here's what I came up with.
This program is amazing!!

Graham Bernard · February 16th, 2011, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kujbida

This program is amazing!!

Ain't that the truth. If you can hear it, you'll see it first in IZO-Rx.

Mike, if you get RXII, try out the Magic Wand, then find some harmonics to play with.

Grazie

Mike Kujbida · February 16th, 2011, 04:56 AM

Grazie, I bought RX2 when it was announced to get the good price on it.
However, I've been so busy wrapped up in a lot of other things that I completely forgot to install it :(
Thanks for the reminder!!

Don Bloom · February 16th, 2011, 06:36 AM

I also tried a couple of different audio programs such as Audicity and Gold Wave and was able to reduce it as well as my NR plug in that I use in Vegas which eliminated the noise without disturbing the voice.

The Graphic EQ is a way to reduce it by staying in Vegas and without spending any money to reduce or eliminate the noise.

David Ruhland · February 16th, 2011, 06:40 AM

Mike....

Wow... that is impressive....

Don..I do have audacity....

Mike Kujbida · February 16th, 2011, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Ruhland

Mike....

Wow... that is impressive....

Grazie gives it his blessing so you know it's good !!
And it can be yours for the low low price of only $349 U.S.
That's why I jumped on it when it was initially released as it was almost 1/2 price.

Mike Kujbida · February 16th, 2011, 01:05 PM

David, if $349 is too much for you (and it probably is), check out another iZotope product called iZotope Music & Speech Cleaner as it's only $40 U.S.

Jim Andrada · February 16th, 2011, 08:34 PM

Another vote for Izotope. I love it.

February 15th, 2011, 08:45 AM	#1
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	Can I eliminate the Wooshing noise in Vegas? I am trying to figure out how to eliminate the "wooshing" Whooshing" noise from the audio. Ideally Iwould like to figure this out and eliminate it during the initial acquistion. I am using Sony professional headphones, and the minute i plug them in I hear a sound. It doesnt matter what camera I try them on...Perhaps this is normal as I am comparing them to Bose Noise reduction headphones i used to wear when i traveled back and forth to Asia. I play with the Audio Gain Control and it doesnt seem to help. I have tried both MAnual Audio input control and Automatic Gain Control. So if I cant stop it before post...I am trying to remove it I have tried adjusting the threshold level in the Track Noise Gate Audio effects, but I am unable to find a happy medium, as the woosh becomes intermittent. and the sound is unnatural as it appears to be cutting in and out. Thoughts-Suggestions? __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

February 15th, 2011, 08:49 AM	#2
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	David, It kind of sounds like it might be the camera preamp OR the wireless causing this. If you could email me a small sample I think I might be able to help you out on it. I have a couple of presets that might work. Make sure the sample has both the noise and someone speaking so I can compare it. __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

February 15th, 2011, 10:47 AM	#5
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	Thanks guys... im a lil perplexed... it doesnt help matters that I have tinnutis! I can compensentate for that constant ringing in my ears... but its definate wooshing. Just for the fun of it i did a little experiment and recorded to my zoom h4n. Sounds great when i bring into Vegas.. plug mic into the Beachtek or the camera direct....Woosh!... I tried it on another camera as well..with the same results. __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

February 15th, 2011, 02:57 PM	#7
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	I listened on my laptop with sime cheap headphones so I could be wrong here but there seem to be a little noise in the background but that could be the phones I had on. If it isn't then the fix is pretty simple. OK forget this. I just realized I had this set up to send to someone else for a different audio problem so it doesn't apply here. I DID listen to it on my edit machine and by using the 20 band GRaphic EQ and going to the 900 to 7.2K bands the noise can be adjusted out but be careful as you can also interfere with the voice as well. __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don Last edited by Don Bloom; February 15th, 2011 at 03:28 PM. Reason: wrong stuff included before

February 16th, 2011, 06:36 AM	#11
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	I also tried a couple of different audio programs such as Audicity and Gold Wave and was able to reduce it as well as my NR plug in that I use in Vegas which eliminated the noise without disturbing the voice. The Graphic EQ is a way to reduce it by staying in Vegas and without spending any money to reduce or eliminate the noise. __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

February 15th, 2011, 10:03 AM	#3
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	It sounds like a problem with your headphones or the electronics feeding the headphones. On the Vegas audio track take a look at the sound wave representation of a portion where there should be no sound. If it is just a smooth line, there is no noise regardless of what your headphones are telling you. If there is noise, it shows as tiny spikes on the line. You may need to zoom in to see it well.

February 15th, 2011, 10:29 AM	#4
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	David, when I got my first pair of really good headphones a number of years ago, I was astounded at how bad I thought my field recordings were. It turned out the headphones were too good as I couldn't hear those same sounds back in the edit suite on a good set of monitors (Yamaha NS-10M). Make sure this isn't what's happening to you too.

February 16th, 2011, 04:56 AM	#10
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Grazie, I bought RX2 when it was announced to get the good price on it. However, I've been so busy wrapped up in a lot of other things that I completely forgot to install it :( Thanks for the reminder!!

February 16th, 2011, 06:40 AM	#12
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	Mike.... Wow... that is impressive.... Don..I do have audacity.... __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

February 16th, 2011, 01:05 PM	#14
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	David, if $349 is too much for you (and it probably is), check out another iZotope product called iZotope Music & Speech Cleaner as it's only $40 U.S.

February 16th, 2011, 08:34 PM	#15
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Another vote for Izotope. I love it.