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Dale Guthormsen · February 3rd, 2011, 05:24 PM

Good evening,

On long form projects I have made it a practice to rough edit in Edius and then finish up in Vegas.

Version ten is not reading the avi file for me, Is it my computer or is someone else noticing this too!!!

dale

Leslie Wand · February 3rd, 2011, 05:38 PM

interesting workflow.....

how are you finding edius (version?).

with 10 being a bit flaky i've looked at edius 6, but don't have enough serious feedback from any users vis a vie vegas.

your opinion would be most welcome...

(i'll get round to dl the trial when i've got enough feedback to give it a whirl)

Seth Bloombaum · February 3rd, 2011, 07:33 PM

I've been making lots of AVIs and looking at them within Vegas (no Edius involved).

If you're asking "Does V10 work with AVIs OK?" I'd answer yes.

Do I remember that Canopus/Grass Valley has their own Digital Intermediate AVI codec (HQ?). If you rendered to this DI codec, Vegas might not have a decoder for it.

What codec are you creating your Edius AVIs with?

Mike Kujbida · February 3rd, 2011, 07:56 PM

Dale, I have no idea whether this suggestion will help or not but I'll offer it anyway,
Back in 2005, I got several AVI files from a guy who was editing on a Canopus Rex (precursor to Edius I think) that I needed to make into a DVD for a show.
I rendered them out from Vegas (6.0c) as mpegs & ac3s but, when I brought them into DVDA (3.0c) , it said every file had to be re-compressed.
When I did this, lip sync was off as well as what appeared to be a field order problem.
A user on the Sony Vegas forum offered the following solution that solved my problem.

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Vegas analyses and uses the Canopus AVIs coming from Rex not correctly. For Vegas them are Upper Field First though actually them are Lower Field First.

I had the same problem several times and Sony Support helped me by telling me how to modify the "Vegas profile.ini" file which is in the Vegas program folder:

Open the file "Vegas profiles.ini" within an editor. Search for this phrase:

"Key2=0, "None", 720, 576, 25.0, 0
Attributes2="Upper First", 1.0925925925, "Undefined", 1"

Modify this one to

"Key2=0, "None", 720, 576, 25.0, 0
Attributes2="Lower First", 1.0925925925, "Undefined", 1"

Save the file anew .

Be sure to have copied the original file with another name first to have a backup!

Now when you reopen Vegas it will analyse and use the Canopus AVI files correctly as Lower Field First.

Dale Guthormsen · February 5th, 2011, 03:27 PM

Leslie,

I have found edius to be a very solid worker, running HD real time on any long form project during the rough editing.
I have found the concept of using sequences to be really useful!!! In Vegas I nest and it works well but bounces betwen two version of Vegas.
I still prefer Vegas as my primary editor!!

The problem appears to be the canopus codec.

Mike,

Thanks for this work around, I will try it when I finish my current project.

I have used their HQ codec and may test a couple of the others and see if they work.

EDIT non of them canopus ones work.

Thanks everyone!

Gerald Webb · February 5th, 2011, 07:37 PM

This may be relevant,
I while back I had to back up a Bluray disc, Vegas kept crashing just by having the streams on the timeline, so I opened up Edius in the hope of rendering them to an intermediate.

I found the same as you,
Vegas wouldnt see the the Canopus HQ files....well, 64 bit Vegas wouldnt anyway,
BUT,
32 bit Vegas did.
This was with vers 9.

Edward Troxel · February 6th, 2011, 07:25 AM

If the codec is a 32-bit codec, it will not work in 64-bit Vegas unless you also have a 64-bit version.

Ron Evans · February 6th, 2011, 04:24 PM

IF you output HQ from Edius any version before Edius V6 then you must use a 32bit version of Vegas. With Edius V6 the HQ output will work in 32 or 64 version of Vegas.

I do all my video editing in Edius then output a HQ file to do audio editing in Vegas. Current version are Edius V6 and Vegas V10.

Ron Evans

February 3rd, 2011, 05:24 PM	#1
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Vegas10 / edius AVI ? Good evening, On long form projects I have made it a practice to rough edit in Edius and then finish up in Vegas. Version ten is not reading the avi file for me, Is it my computer or is someone else noticing this too!!! dale __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

February 3rd, 2011, 05:38 PM	#2
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	interesting workflow..... how are you finding edius (version?). with 10 being a bit flaky i've looked at edius 6, but don't have enough serious feedback from any users vis a vie vegas. your opinion would be most welcome... (i'll get round to dl the trial when i've got enough feedback to give it a whirl) __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

February 3rd, 2011, 07:33 PM	#3
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	I've been making lots of AVIs and looking at them within Vegas (no Edius involved). If you're asking "Does V10 work with AVIs OK?" I'd answer yes. Do I remember that Canopus/Grass Valley has their own Digital Intermediate AVI codec (HQ?). If you rendered to this DI codec, Vegas might not have a decoder for it. What codec are you creating your Edius AVIs with? __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

February 5th, 2011, 03:27 PM	#5
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Leslie, I have found edius to be a very solid worker, running HD real time on any long form project during the rough editing. I have found the concept of using sequences to be really useful!!! In Vegas I nest and it works well but bounces betwen two version of Vegas. I still prefer Vegas as my primary editor!! The problem appears to be the canopus codec. Mike, Thanks for this work around, I will try it when I finish my current project. I have used their HQ codec and may test a couple of the others and see if they work. EDIT non of them canopus ones work. Thanks everyone! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen Last edited by Dale Guthormsen; February 5th, 2011 at 04:00 PM.

February 5th, 2011, 07:37 PM	#6
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	This may be relevant, I while back I had to back up a Bluray disc, Vegas kept crashing just by having the streams on the timeline, so I opened up Edius in the hope of rendering them to an intermediate. I found the same as you, Vegas wouldnt see the the Canopus HQ files....well, 64 bit Vegas wouldnt anyway, BUT, 32 bit Vegas did. This was with vers 9. __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

February 3rd, 2011, 07:56 PM	#4
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Dale, I have no idea whether this suggestion will help or not but I'll offer it anyway, Back in 2005, I got several AVI files from a guy who was editing on a Canopus Rex (precursor to Edius I think) that I needed to make into a DVD for a show. I rendered them out from Vegas (6.0c) as mpegs & ac3s but, when I brought them into DVDA (3.0c) , it said every file had to be re-compressed. When I did this, lip sync was off as well as what appeared to be a field order problem. A user on the Sony Vegas forum offered the following solution that solved my problem. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vegas analyses and uses the Canopus AVIs coming from Rex not correctly. For Vegas them are Upper Field First though actually them are Lower Field First. I had the same problem several times and Sony Support helped me by telling me how to modify the "Vegas profile.ini" file which is in the Vegas program folder: Open the file "Vegas profiles.ini" within an editor. Search for this phrase: "Key2=0, "None", 720, 576, 25.0, 0 Attributes2="Upper First", 1.0925925925, "Undefined", 1" Modify this one to "Key2=0, "None", 720, 576, 25.0, 0 Attributes2="Lower First", 1.0925925925, "Undefined", 1" Save the file anew . Be sure to have copied the original file with another name first to have a backup! Now when you reopen Vegas it will analyse and use the Canopus AVI files correctly as Lower Field First.

February 6th, 2011, 07:25 AM	#7
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If the codec is a 32-bit codec, it will not work in 64-bit Vegas unless you also have a 64-bit version. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 6th, 2011, 04:24 PM	#8
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	IF you output HQ from Edius any version before Edius V6 then you must use a 32bit version of Vegas. With Edius V6 the HQ output will work in 32 or 64 version of Vegas. I do all my video editing in Edius then output a HQ file to do audio editing in Vegas. Current version are Edius V6 and Vegas V10. Ron Evans