Time Code Clarification Needed.. at DVinfo.net

David Ruhland · January 29th, 2011, 09:01 AM

Im confused on the Time Code..Perhaps My cameras cant do what I want them to do!

I used my Canon HV30 and HF200 on a shoot. Prior to the shoot I synchroized the clocks on the cameras as close as I could.

When I bring the footage into Vegas what I am expecting to see is the ACTUAL TIME it was shot... so If both cameras were recording footage at 4:05 pm I want all the footage from both cams at 4:05pm

Im getting goofy numbers....ie 43.777, 2:26:480,3:41.188, etc....

I have the "show source frame numbers as TIME" selected.

Am I able to see the chronilogical time or am I just really confused what TIMECODE is?

Thanks..

D.J. Ammons · January 29th, 2011, 09:27 AM

I didn't know the HV30 had timecode! I have the HV20. I didn't think consumer camcorders had it. I have two Sony V1U's with timecode that can be synchronized but it is such a pain in the butt I use Plural Eyes to synchronize my multicam shoots when editing. It works great and has never failed me.

David Ruhland · January 29th, 2011, 10:40 AM

After searching the web...What I am trying to do is sort clips based on DATE and TIME Is this possible in Sony Vegas?

Aleksey Tarasov · January 29th, 2011, 01:15 PM

Select detailed view in Project Media window: show me how

Edward Troxel · January 29th, 2011, 06:09 PM

Timecode and Date/Time are two totally different things. Timecode should be a consistent increasing time throughout the tape. Date/Time is the date and time it was shot. There can be many jumps in the date/time even on a consistent running timecode. In fact, jumps in the date/time is how it's determined that the camera was stopped and restarted allowing captures to be split into multiple clips.

Dugi Barr · January 29th, 2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by David Ruhland

Im confused on the Time Code..Perhaps My cameras cant do what I want them to do!
When I bring the footage into Vegas what I am expecting to see is the ACTUAL TIME it was shot... so If both cameras were recording footage at 4:05 pm I want all the footage from both cams at 4:05pm
I have the "show source frame numbers as TIME" selected.

When I want to see my Time of Day timecode I have the "Show source frame numbers on event thumbnails set to TIMECODE"

David Ruhland · January 29th, 2011, 06:48 PM

Okay..That is very Clear now. Thanks Ed.... But is there a way to see Date and Time in the Clips? I have searched and searched this matter to no avail all day today.

Im starting to think that Vegas doesnt offer this function.

Dugi.... having Timecode set does not show anything with my files

What I am looking for is the ability to scroll across the video on the timeline and see the date and time it was recorded.

Dugi Barr · January 29th, 2011, 07:19 PM

"Prior to the shoot I synchroized the clocks on the cameras as close as I could."
Did you actually set the timecode in the camera eg " 07:19:00:00"?
Just curious as I'm not familiar with your cameras and the second poster doesn't seem to think it's possible.

David Ruhland · January 30th, 2011, 05:59 AM

I only was able to set the date and time. Neither camera puts out a "real" time code

So the question that no one can seem to answer is how do I see the date and time of my video clip when brought into Vegas?

Edward Troxel · January 30th, 2011, 07:22 AM

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So the question that no one can seem to answer is how do I see the date and time of my video clip when brought into Vegas?

I know of no easy way to do this. There are workarounds (i.e. there's a program that will modify your video to include the date/time code as an overlay) but I don't know of any way in Vegas to simply display that code. Timecode, yes. Date/Time, no.

David Ruhland · January 30th, 2011, 11:12 AM

Alrighty then....This is all starting to make sense now.... Final question....Do you have a suggestion on this overlay program that will do it?

Thanks...

Colin Browell · February 1st, 2011, 02:02 PM

Not sure if it's what your looking for but DVMP Pro will let you view the timecode and date/time in HDV files (inc HV20 and HV30) or permanently overlay across the frames. There's a demo version available.

January 29th, 2011, 09:01 AM	#1
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	Time Code Clarification Needed.. Im confused on the Time Code..Perhaps My cameras cant do what I want them to do! I used my Canon HV30 and HF200 on a shoot. Prior to the shoot I synchroized the clocks on the cameras as close as I could. When I bring the footage into Vegas what I am expecting to see is the ACTUAL TIME it was shot... so If both cameras were recording footage at 4:05 pm I want all the footage from both cams at 4:05pm Im getting goofy numbers....ie 43.777, 2:26:480,3:41.188, etc.... I have the "show source frame numbers as TIME" selected. Am I able to see the chronilogical time or am I just really confused what TIMECODE is? Thanks.. __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

January 29th, 2011, 10:40 AM	#3
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	After searching the web...What I am trying to do is sort clips based on DATE and TIME Is this possible in Sony Vegas? __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram Last edited by David Ruhland; January 29th, 2011 at 11:10 AM.

January 29th, 2011, 06:09 PM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Timecode and Date/Time are two totally different things. Timecode should be a consistent increasing time throughout the tape. Date/Time is the date and time it was shot. There can be many jumps in the date/time even on a consistent running timecode. In fact, jumps in the date/time is how it's determined that the camera was stopped and restarted allowing captures to be split into multiple clips. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 29th, 2011, 06:48 PM	#7
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	Okay..That is very Clear now. Thanks Ed.... But is there a way to see Date and Time in the Clips? I have searched and searched this matter to no avail all day today. Im starting to think that Vegas doesnt offer this function. Dugi.... having Timecode set does not show anything with my files What I am looking for is the ability to scroll across the video on the timeline and see the date and time it was recorded. __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

January 30th, 2011, 05:59 AM	#9
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	I only was able to set the date and time. Neither camera puts out a "real" time code So the question that no one can seem to answer is how do I see the date and time of my video clip when brought into Vegas? __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

January 29th, 2011, 09:27 AM	#2
D.J. Ammons Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 506	I didn't know the HV30 had timecode! I have the HV20. I didn't think consumer camcorders had it. I have two Sony V1U's with timecode that can be synchronized but it is such a pain in the butt I use Plural Eyes to synchronize my multicam shoots when editing. It works great and has never failed me.

January 29th, 2011, 01:15 PM	#4
Aleksey Tarasov New Boot Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: RF Posts: 23	Select detailed view in Project Media window: show me how

January 29th, 2011, 07:19 PM	#8
Dugi Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Esher, Surrey Posts: 89	"Prior to the shoot I synchroized the clocks on the cameras as close as I could." Did you actually set the timecode in the camera eg " 07:19:00:00"? Just curious as I'm not familiar with your cameras and the second poster doesn't seem to think it's possible.

January 30th, 2011, 11:12 AM	#11
David Ruhland Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison WI Posts: 340	Alrighty then....This is all starting to make sense now.... Final question....Do you have a suggestion on this overlay program that will do it? Thanks... __________________ Vegas 8.0c (Build 260)-(Upgraded to Sony Vegas 10 pro)Canon GL2, Canon HV30, HF200, HF20-Sony UWP Wirelesss Mic Kit, Intel Core 2 CPU-6600@2.40GHz-3.00GB Ram

February 1st, 2011, 02:02 PM	#12
Colin Browell Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: UK Posts: 55	Not sure if it's what your looking for but DVMP Pro will let you view the timecode and date/time in HDV files (inc HV20 and HV30) or permanently overlay across the frames. There's a demo version available.