Vegas 10 and Cineform aspect ratio at DVinfo.net

Matthew Amirkhani · November 19th, 2010, 11:25 AM

Hi All,

Why is it that when I bring in the clips that were captured by cineform shows as 4:3 aspect ratio? rather than 16:9.
I then need to go into Pan Crop for each clip and change the ratio manually.

Thanks in advance.
Matthew

John Cline · November 19th, 2010, 02:40 PM

Except for DV format .AVI files, there is no mechanism in the header of an .AVI file to specify the aspect ratio. Unless you are using 1920x1080 or 1280x720 which use square pixels, you must set the aspect ratio manually for each imported Cineform AVI file. This is a limitation of the .AVI format container specifications, not a Cineform limitation.

Matthew Amirkhani · November 19th, 2010, 04:02 PM

Hi John,
Thank you for you feedback.

However, I must disagree with you. I've been usung Vegas 8 & 9 and everytime I bring in a footage into the Project Media the Cineform footage will show (1.3333 HDV 1080 )as the pixel aspect ratio.

But in Vegas 10 the same footage shows up as (1.0000 Square) pixal aspect ratio which is wrong.

Gerald Webb · November 19th, 2010, 05:37 PM

Is it every clip, or just a few, or one?
Its a pain but easy to get around.
Did you use HD link, or render them/it out of Vegas?

Its been said before, there may be a bug or 10 in Vegas ATM.
I converted an AVCHD to cineform the other day, opened it up, and it was squished to the left hand side of the frame! Reshaped it in Pan crop and there was no visual quality loss, it just had a pixel aspect ratio of .5, and was put on the extreme left, was quite bizarre.

Roll on 10b

Matthew Amirkhani · November 19th, 2010, 05:59 PM

Hi Gerald,

It is every clip. I captured with Neoscene and I never faced this problem in eaither on the previous Vegas Softwares. I am sure that there is abug that needs to be fixed with Vegas 10.

If you also notice the configure button for cineform in Vegas 10 is not working either.

Matthew

Gerald Webb · November 22nd, 2010, 03:19 AM

yeah, the config button is annoying.
I only managed to render my first Cineform clip from Vegas 10 yesterday, before, it kept crashing.
I havent done a lot of problem solving as yet, Ive been to busy, I just find if I hit a wall with one thing, I just jump to the left and run in another direction, lol.
While i can keep finding workarounds and just keep getting the work done, Im afraid I'll just keep putting up with the problems.

November 19th, 2010, 11:25 AM	#1
Matthew Amirkhani Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 279	Vegas 10 and Cineform aspect ratio Hi All, Why is it that when I bring in the clips that were captured by cineform shows as 4:3 aspect ratio? rather than 16:9. I then need to go into Pan Crop for each clip and change the ratio manually. Thanks in advance. Matthew __________________ Canon XHA1, Brevis 35mm, Manfrotto 028,501,Vegas Pro 10e

November 19th, 2010, 04:02 PM	#3
Matthew Amirkhani Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 279	Hi John, Thank you for you feedback. However, I must disagree with you. I've been usung Vegas 8 & 9 and everytime I bring in a footage into the Project Media the Cineform footage will show (1.3333 HDV 1080 )as the pixel aspect ratio. But in Vegas 10 the same footage shows up as (1.0000 Square) pixal aspect ratio which is wrong. __________________ Canon XHA1, Brevis 35mm, Manfrotto 028,501,Vegas Pro 10e

November 19th, 2010, 05:37 PM	#4
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Is it every clip, or just a few, or one? Its a pain but easy to get around. Did you use HD link, or render them/it out of Vegas? Its been said before, there may be a bug or 10 in Vegas ATM. I converted an AVCHD to cineform the other day, opened it up, and it was squished to the left hand side of the frame! Reshaped it in Pan crop and there was no visual quality loss, it just had a pixel aspect ratio of .5, and was put on the extreme left, was quite bizarre. Roll on 10b __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

November 19th, 2010, 05:59 PM	#5
Matthew Amirkhani Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 279	Hi Gerald, It is every clip. I captured with Neoscene and I never faced this problem in eaither on the previous Vegas Softwares. I am sure that there is abug that needs to be fixed with Vegas 10. If you also notice the configure button for cineform in Vegas 10 is not working either. Matthew __________________ Canon XHA1, Brevis 35mm, Manfrotto 028,501,Vegas Pro 10e

November 22nd, 2010, 03:19 AM	#6
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	yeah, the config button is annoying. I only managed to render my first Cineform clip from Vegas 10 yesterday, before, it kept crashing. I havent done a lot of problem solving as yet, Ive been to busy, I just find if I hit a wall with one thing, I just jump to the left and run in another direction, lol. While i can keep finding workarounds and just keep getting the work done, Im afraid I'll just keep putting up with the problems. __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

November 19th, 2010, 02:40 PM	#2
John Cline Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico USA Posts: 333	Except for DV format .AVI files, there is no mechanism in the header of an .AVI file to specify the aspect ratio. Unless you are using 1920x1080 or 1280x720 which use square pixels, you must set the aspect ratio manually for each imported Cineform AVI file. This is a limitation of the .AVI format container specifications, not a Cineform limitation.