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Dylan Morgan · November 10th, 2010, 10:09 PM

I shoot 1080p and downconvert to SD by rendering to MPEG-2 DVD architect NTSC 24p widescreen. I've noticed that when played on a 4:3 TV, the sides are cut off a little. I know that I'm making the video for widescreen, but how is it when you buy a DVD you don't have this issue when played on either setup?

Jeff Harper · November 10th, 2010, 10:12 PM

Your aspect ratio should be 720 x 480....you probably are using the wrong setting and need to change it. Otherwise I'm at a loss...probably something obvious...hasn't happened to me...hope that helps.

Dylan Morgan · November 10th, 2010, 10:17 PM

But why not make it widescreen SD since most people are watching on a widescreen TV?

Enrique Orozco Robles · November 10th, 2010, 10:27 PM

...if you're using Vegas 9, on Project Properties just be sure to "mark": Adjust source media to better match project or render settings..... and make the render to DVD arch mpeg2 widescreen... earlier versions of Vegas doesn´t have this option and you have to make another workaround ... hope this is not your case...

good luck

Dylan Morgan · November 10th, 2010, 10:31 PM

Thanks for the reponses guys. I use Vegas 10 and I just noticed that it's checked automatically. I never seemed to care much for those settings because I heard that it's for preview and rendering settings take priority.

Dylan Morgan · November 11th, 2010, 03:30 PM

So most people are just rendering to 720x480 with PAR of 0.9 rather than 1.21 widescreen? I just thought it to be a waste to not give them the benefit of widescreen.

Jeff Harper · November 11th, 2010, 03:59 PM

Personally, I do not turn out anything but widescreen any more.

Dylan Morgan · November 11th, 2010, 07:38 PM

Can I ask what your rendering out to Jeff? When I select the DVD Architect 24p widescreen preset, I've noticed that some of the side are cut off on a 4:3 TV. Like when a line of people getting there pic taken and the outide people are cut out. Perhaps most people don't notice this and I've never had anyone complain. I was just curious what other people are rendering to avoid this. It plays perfect on a 16:9.

Jeff Harper · November 11th, 2010, 10:06 PM

Same dimensions as you. I understand the issue now, I think. Your not doing anything wrong...I think what your seeing is normal. When editing you have to be careful to leave a margin on the outside edges if it's going to be seen on 4:3 tv. Otherwise tell your customers to watch it on a widescreen tv for the best result. problem solved.

Dylan Morgan · November 13th, 2010, 02:47 PM

Thanks Jeff. :D

Jeff Harper · November 13th, 2010, 04:19 PM

You're welcome...misunderstood original post.

As someone pointed out in another thread, much more clearly than I can explain it, widescreen tv will also cut off a bit.

November 10th, 2010, 10:09 PM	#1
Dylan Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 70	DVD Architect question I shoot 1080p and downconvert to SD by rendering to MPEG-2 DVD architect NTSC 24p widescreen. I've noticed that when played on a 4:3 TV, the sides are cut off a little. I know that I'm making the video for widescreen, but how is it when you buy a DVD you don't have this issue when played on either setup?

November 10th, 2010, 10:12 PM	#2
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Your aspect ratio should be 720 x 480....you probably are using the wrong setting and need to change it. Otherwise I'm at a loss...probably something obvious...hasn't happened to me...hope that helps. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

November 10th, 2010, 10:27 PM	#4
Enrique Orozco Robles Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chihuahua MEXICO Posts: 146	...if you're using Vegas 9, on Project Properties just be sure to "mark": Adjust source media to better match project or render settings..... and make the render to DVD arch mpeg2 widescreen... earlier versions of Vegas doesn´t have this option and you have to make another workaround ... hope this is not your case... good luck __________________ Enrique Orozco - Sony/JVC/Nikon/Panny cams, DJI/Yuneec drones, VegasPro www.aerofilm.com.mx

November 11th, 2010, 03:59 PM	#7
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Personally, I do not turn out anything but widescreen any more. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

November 11th, 2010, 10:06 PM	#9
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Same dimensions as you. I understand the issue now, I think. Your not doing anything wrong...I think what your seeing is normal. When editing you have to be careful to leave a margin on the outside edges if it's going to be seen on 4:3 tv. Otherwise tell your customers to watch it on a widescreen tv for the best result. problem solved. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described." Last edited by Jeff Harper; November 12th, 2010 at 12:01 AM.

November 10th, 2010, 10:17 PM	#3
Dylan Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 70	But why not make it widescreen SD since most people are watching on a widescreen TV?

November 10th, 2010, 10:31 PM	#5
Dylan Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 70	Thanks for the reponses guys. I use Vegas 10 and I just noticed that it's checked automatically. I never seemed to care much for those settings because I heard that it's for preview and rendering settings take priority.

November 11th, 2010, 03:30 PM	#6
Dylan Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 70	So most people are just rendering to 720x480 with PAR of 0.9 rather than 1.21 widescreen? I just thought it to be a waste to not give them the benefit of widescreen.

November 11th, 2010, 07:38 PM	#8
Dylan Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 70	Can I ask what your rendering out to Jeff? When I select the DVD Architect 24p widescreen preset, I've noticed that some of the side are cut off on a 4:3 TV. Like when a line of people getting there pic taken and the outide people are cut out. Perhaps most people don't notice this and I've never had anyone complain. I was just curious what other people are rendering to avoid this. It plays perfect on a 16:9.

November 13th, 2010, 02:47 PM	#10
Dylan Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 70	Thanks Jeff. :D

November 13th, 2010, 04:19 PM	#11
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	You're welcome...misunderstood original post. As someone pointed out in another thread, much more clearly than I can explain it, widescreen tv will also cut off a bit. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."