Viewable text area within text box at DVinfo.net

Ron Cooper · September 17th, 2010, 10:30 PM

I have set up a new PC with a 24" Hi-Res. monitor, and find that in Veg.9 the Media Generator (& other boxes), edit box, - the title area (where you actually type,) is then too large and has fat scroll bars & text icons which make it very awkward to use.

Of course I can re-size & re-position the whole box OK by the dots & edge handles BUT, the actual working area box within its boundary box, stays put, so when I reduce the outer box to be a workable size the inner box then becomes out of proportion & creates these big scroll bars. I am using 1920 x 1200 screen resolution.
I simply don't wish to have this box "fill the whole work area everytime I want to edit text and feel that it should be in proportion where I can still see it all as a mini screen, similar to the video preview area and hence see the text as a mini "Full Screen" as I type. In other words I don't want to change the work area layout to do this.

RonC.

Gerald Webb · September 18th, 2010, 12:54 AM

Im not exactly sure I know what you mean,
but,
If you just want to be able to read the whole of your text in the text window (which cant be enlarged ),
you could reduce the size of the text by as much as you need so you can see all of it,
then go to the Properties tab and use the Scaling slider to scale it up in the project,
then if you need to adjust the size further, you could do it with Pan/crop.
sorry if this isnt what you meant.
:)

Ron Cooper · September 18th, 2010, 03:11 AM

Thanks Gerald, but what I need is simply to be able to view the complete text window within its box because it is just too large in its area and I have to use its local scroll bars to navigate around its small screen.

However, I may be doing things wrong as when I click on "Text" & select "Sample Text", I can drag it across and the text shows in a complete separate box, BUT the only problem in doing this is that I can't actually edit it !

What I am simply trying to do is place some text over a video clip in the timeline.

RonC.

Gerald Webb · September 18th, 2010, 03:33 AM

ok,
just a guess, but are you undocking the text window, grab the 6 small dots at the top left of the window and pull it to wherever you want on your dual monitors. Even after closing it will re open in the same place every time after.
Also if you go FX- Legacy plugin text- this FX shows your text in the window more like a text document, you could have a few paragraphs before needing to scroll.
also when adding text IMO it is easier to just add a track above, right click, insert text media.
Saves a cpl of clicks.
:)

Edward Troxel · September 18th, 2010, 07:41 AM

Ron, if you want to give us an exact sequence of events, perhaps we can see where you're going wrong. An illustrative snapshot might help as well.

As for the text editing section of that box, it is NOT resizable so you have to work within the size that's there.

Seth Bloombaum · September 18th, 2010, 09:41 AM

What is the resolution you've set your 24" monitor at in windows? I too am unsure of what you're experiencing, could it be due to a windows monitor setting of lower than 1920x1200?

Ron Cooper · September 19th, 2010, 02:53 AM

Thanks everyone. Some of your questions were answered in my first post, - (Res. 1920 x 1200 & docking by the dots).

I am trying to place text over a clip in the timeline so the text shows on the video. I was selecting "Text" in the media generator and dragging the checquered default text over the clip and a text box opened up which I could not see completely until I expanded it. Now Edward has confirmed that this internal box size cannot be changed. - OK.

However, it does not do what I expected as it blocks out the video underneath. I now have tried Gerald's suggestion of putting the text on a separate track above the video and it works. So I guess all is OK. I suppose that is the way to go but I thought it would have worked in a quicker way by dropping it over the video itself.

(Win 7 64b, Intel i7 930, 2.8g)
Maybe there is another way, so I would welcome your expert advice.

Many thanks for your help. ( What a great forum this is !)

RonC.

Edward Troxel · September 19th, 2010, 06:12 AM

Perhaps this is what's missing:

Track 1 - Text generated media
Track 2 - Video to be under the text

The text generated media always goes on a track ABOVE the video track. If you put it on the same track as the video, it will REPLACE the video in that section.

Ron Cooper · September 19th, 2010, 06:21 AM

Many thanks again Edward. Now I understand.

RonC.

September 17th, 2010, 10:30 PM	#1
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Viewable text area within text box I have set up a new PC with a 24" Hi-Res. monitor, and find that in Veg.9 the Media Generator (& other boxes), edit box, - the title area (where you actually type,) is then too large and has fat scroll bars & text icons which make it very awkward to use. Of course I can re-size & re-position the whole box OK by the dots & edge handles BUT, the actual working area box within its boundary box, stays put, so when I reduce the outer box to be a workable size the inner box then becomes out of proportion & creates these big scroll bars. I am using 1920 x 1200 screen resolution. I simply don't wish to have this box "fill the whole work area everytime I want to edit text and feel that it should be in proportion where I can still see it all as a mini screen, similar to the video preview area and hence see the text as a mini "Full Screen" as I type. In other words I don't want to change the work area layout to do this. RonC.

September 18th, 2010, 12:54 AM	#2
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Im not exactly sure I know what you mean, but, If you just want to be able to read the whole of your text in the text window (which cant be enlarged ), you could reduce the size of the text by as much as you need so you can see all of it, then go to the Properties tab and use the Scaling slider to scale it up in the project, then if you need to adjust the size further, you could do it with Pan/crop. sorry if this isnt what you meant. :) __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

September 18th, 2010, 03:33 AM	#4
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	ok, just a guess, but are you undocking the text window, grab the 6 small dots at the top left of the window and pull it to wherever you want on your dual monitors. Even after closing it will re open in the same place every time after. Also if you go FX- Legacy plugin text- this FX shows your text in the window more like a text document, you could have a few paragraphs before needing to scroll. also when adding text IMO it is easier to just add a track above, right click, insert text media. Saves a cpl of clicks. :) __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

September 18th, 2010, 07:41 AM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Ron, if you want to give us an exact sequence of events, perhaps we can see where you're going wrong. An illustrative snapshot might help as well. As for the text editing section of that box, it is NOT resizable so you have to work within the size that's there. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 18th, 2010, 09:41 AM	#6
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	What is the resolution you've set your 24" monitor at in windows? I too am unsure of what you're experiencing, could it be due to a windows monitor setting of lower than 1920x1200? __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

September 18th, 2010, 03:11 AM	#3
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Thanks Gerald, but what I need is simply to be able to view the complete text window within its box because it is just too large in its area and I have to use its local scroll bars to navigate around its small screen. However, I may be doing things wrong as when I click on "Text" & select "Sample Text", I can drag it across and the text shows in a complete separate box, BUT the only problem in doing this is that I can't actually edit it ! What I am simply trying to do is place some text over a video clip in the timeline. RonC.

September 19th, 2010, 02:53 AM	#7
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Thanks everyone. Some of your questions were answered in my first post, - (Res. 1920 x 1200 & docking by the dots). I am trying to place text over a clip in the timeline so the text shows on the video. I was selecting "Text" in the media generator and dragging the checquered default text over the clip and a text box opened up which I could not see completely until I expanded it. Now Edward has confirmed that this internal box size cannot be changed. - OK. However, it does not do what I expected as it blocks out the video underneath. I now have tried Gerald's suggestion of putting the text on a separate track above the video and it works. So I guess all is OK. I suppose that is the way to go but I thought it would have worked in a quicker way by dropping it over the video itself. (Win 7 64b, Intel i7 930, 2.8g) Maybe there is another way, so I would welcome your expert advice. Many thanks for your help. ( What a great forum this is !) RonC.

September 19th, 2010, 06:12 AM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Perhaps this is what's missing: Track 1 - Text generated media Track 2 - Video to be under the text The text generated media always goes on a track ABOVE the video track. If you put it on the same track as the video, it will REPLACE the video in that section. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 19th, 2010, 06:21 AM	#9
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Many thanks again Edward. Now I understand. RonC.