Sony VEGAS PRO 10 Announced!

Sean Seah · September 11th, 2010, 08:11 AM

There is slight mention of dslr support but it seems that transcoding with cineform is still required?

Randall Leong · September 11th, 2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean Seah

There is slight mention of dslr support but it seems that transcoding with cineform is still required?

Actually, it can handle footage from some DSLRs directly - particularly those that record in AVCHD format. However, for best performance with such AVCHD footage one of certain NVIDIA CUDA cards is strongly recommended.

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Originally Posted by Vincent Mesman

From October 11 on there will be a fully functional 30-days demo version of Vegas pro v10 available for download.

This is in slight contrast to Vegas 9 Pro, which in its trial version all video formats are supported for both import and export but only 2-channel stereo audio in LPCM or 192kbps Dolby Digital Studio is supported. A paid registration is required for multichannel audio support or for additional customizable audio formats including Dolby Digital Pro.

Jim Snow · September 11th, 2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnus Helander

Image Stabilizer is proDAD's Mercalli
Mercalli V2

Does Sony specifically state that the stabilizer is the full Mercalli V2? Or is it a "lite" version. Mercalli V2 looks good. I just want to be sure that I won't be given the 'opportunity' to upgrade it to the full featured version after I buy a Pro 10 upgrade.

Brian Luce · September 11th, 2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall Leong

Actually, it can handle footage from some DSLRs directly - particularly those that record in AVCHD format. However, for best performance with such AVCHD footage one of certain NVIDIA CUDA cards is strongly recommended.

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I wish they'd put more effort into the DSLR compatibility. Are there really that many people who use Vegas interested in 3d shooting and editing?

Nicholas de Kock · September 11th, 2010, 01:47 PM

Will Vegas 10 make Matrox support & other high quality plug-ins available for After Effects & Premier possible?

Andy Wilkinson · September 11th, 2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Luce

I wish they'd put more effort into the DSLR compatibility. Are there really that many people who use Vegas interested in 3d shooting and editing?

Yes but Sony is really, really pushing 3D - that's why it's in there. Sure looks like a nice upgrade from my (recently purchased) Vegas 9E but I'm not going to fork out money for yet another software upgrade just yet. My set-up is running so nice and stable (and as we all know, early versions of Vegas can be a bit troublesome - it usually takes them until about D or E before they get the glitches all sorted, at least that's my opinion).

Bruce Phung · September 11th, 2010, 03:19 PM

I wish they included 24mbs avchd encoding. But I don't see it mentioned, probably still is 15mbs.

Jim Snow · September 11th, 2010, 03:42 PM

Sony backs itself into a corner sometimes. They tend to segregate the market into 'neat little segments', in an effort to control these segment to suit their own interests (read - $$$). I suspect the AVC bitrate limitation is one of those cases. AVC bitrates above 15 mbs are 'reserved' for a higher-level market segment. The problem - for Sony is they box themselves in with these maneuvers which causes them to get bit where they normally expect to sit down.by the competition. I suspect it's difficult for Sony to understand they don't control the market as much as they think they do.

Ron Cooper · September 12th, 2010, 12:24 AM

Surely they would not have 24Mbt encoding, which I expected in V9. It is now in some of the low end editors such as Cyberlink Power Director if I'm not mistaken. This would wipe it out for me.

With all the raving on about 3D, how many, say, wedding videographers and lots of others, are going to be fussed about this ? I'm sure they'd be more impressed with down to earth things like 24Mbt encoding and faster rendering etc. as this translates to better video quality and more efficient workflow for the vast majority who have no intention of going to 3D for years yet.

RonC.

Prech Marton · September 12th, 2010, 02:40 AM

I personally really like the 3D editing feature. I have taken many 3D videos in the last months. :-)
As for 24mbit avchd, why don't use debugmode frameserver, and render with a thirdparty encoder, that support this format? Isn't available such one? I don't know, i edit mainly DV and HDV.

What i like to see in future version is the directx accelerated preview window, new effects, transitions (for example the push and slide transition with accelerated speed not with linear, a really nice glow transition, a better titler, set markers while capturing, better slow-mo algorithm, etc..)

Arkady Bolotin · September 12th, 2010, 03:49 AM

Apropos, are you aware that you can edit stereoscopic 3D (S3D) video also in Vegas 9.0e without any add-ons or additional tools?

Those who are interested in editing S3D video in Vegas pro 9 may search the Net for the Workflow Paper (revised April 2, 2010) detailing in five steps how to achieve this without costly upgrade to version 10.

Prech Marton · September 12th, 2010, 05:14 AM

No. I made a relaxing 3D movie (check my homepage) for which i used
8.0c and it worked very well (syncronizing clips, grouping them together,
render the left and right tracks to separate files, sometimes without recompression, etc..)
I even buyed a Zalman Trimon and, can set the preview window to interlaced 3D with a mask,
so INSTANT 3D is possible while editing.
Last summer i worked with 2d wedding videos, and take 3d nature and family videos, but don't have
time to edit it. This time we was in Austria.
So if Vegas 10 will have even better 3d workflow, then it's a good news to me!
It will be arrived just in time :)

Jeff Harper · September 12th, 2010, 08:08 AM

I do not understand the technicalities, but had been waiting for gpu utilization for the purpose of enhancing ACVHD, etc., performance on the timeline, not rendering. Rendering speeds as they are are fine with the newer processors, IMO.

Dan Lambert · September 12th, 2010, 12:10 PM

Will they have an upgrade price for those of us who just bought Vegas 9?

Mike Kujbida · September 12th, 2010, 01:12 PM

Dan, what has happened in the past is that users who bought a previous release less than a month before a new release was announced got the new version for free.
You'll have to wait until this version is released on Oct. 11 to see if this policy is still followed or not.

September 11th, 2010, 08:11 AM	#16
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	There is slight mention of dslr support but it seems that transcoding with cineform is still required? __________________ Firewerkz Films SGP

September 12th, 2010, 02:40 AM	#25
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	I personally really like the 3D editing feature. I have taken many 3D videos in the last months. :-) As for 24mbit avchd, why don't use debugmode frameserver, and render with a thirdparty encoder, that support this format? Isn't available such one? I don't know, i edit mainly DV and HDV. What i like to see in future version is the directx accelerated preview window, new effects, transitions (for example the push and slide transition with accelerated speed not with linear, a really nice glow transition, a better titler, set markers while capturing, better slow-mo algorithm, etc..) __________________ Relaxing clips with waterfalls and music, 3D photos, 3D videos: www.3d-video.hu

September 12th, 2010, 05:14 AM	#27
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	No. I made a relaxing 3D movie (check my homepage) for which i used 8.0c and it worked very well (syncronizing clips, grouping them together, render the left and right tracks to separate files, sometimes without recompression, etc..) I even buyed a Zalman Trimon and, can set the preview window to interlaced 3D with a mask, so INSTANT 3D is possible while editing. Last summer i worked with 2d wedding videos, and take 3d nature and family videos, but don't have time to edit it. This time we was in Austria. So if Vegas 10 will have even better 3d workflow, then it's a good news to me! It will be arrived just in time :) __________________ Relaxing clips with waterfalls and music, 3D photos, 3D videos: www.3d-video.hu

September 12th, 2010, 08:08 AM	#28
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I do not understand the technicalities, but had been waiting for gpu utilization for the purpose of enhancing ACVHD, etc., performance on the timeline, not rendering. Rendering speeds as they are are fine with the newer processors, IMO. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

September 11th, 2010, 01:47 PM	#20
Nicholas de Kock Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: KLD, South Africa Posts: 983	Will Vegas 10 make Matrox support & other high quality plug-ins available for After Effects & Premier possible?

September 11th, 2010, 03:19 PM	#22
Bruce Phung Major Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester,NY USA Posts: 285	I wish they included 24mbs avchd encoding. But I don't see it mentioned, probably still is 15mbs.

September 11th, 2010, 03:42 PM	#23
Jim Snow Trustee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,104	Sony backs itself into a corner sometimes. They tend to segregate the market into 'neat little segments', in an effort to control these segment to suit their own interests (read - $$$). I suspect the AVC bitrate limitation is one of those cases. AVC bitrates above 15 mbs are 'reserved' for a higher-level market segment. The problem - for Sony is they box themselves in with these maneuvers which causes them to get bit where they normally expect to sit down.by the competition. I suspect it's difficult for Sony to understand they don't control the market as much as they think they do.

September 12th, 2010, 12:24 AM	#24
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Surely they would not have 24Mbt encoding, which I expected in V9. It is now in some of the low end editors such as Cyberlink Power Director if I'm not mistaken. This would wipe it out for me. With all the raving on about 3D, how many, say, wedding videographers and lots of others, are going to be fussed about this ? I'm sure they'd be more impressed with down to earth things like 24Mbt encoding and faster rendering etc. as this translates to better video quality and more efficient workflow for the vast majority who have no intention of going to 3D for years yet. RonC.

September 12th, 2010, 03:49 AM	#26
Arkady Bolotin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Beersheba, Israel Posts: 111	Apropos, are you aware that you can edit stereoscopic 3D (S3D) video also in Vegas 9.0e without any add-ons or additional tools? Those who are interested in editing S3D video in Vegas pro 9 may search the Net for the Workflow Paper (revised April 2, 2010) detailing in five steps how to achieve this without costly upgrade to version 10.

September 12th, 2010, 12:10 PM	#29
Dan Lambert Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 38	Will they have an upgrade price for those of us who just bought Vegas 9?

September 12th, 2010, 01:12 PM	#30
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Dan, what has happened in the past is that users who bought a previous release less than a month before a new release was announced got the new version for free. You'll have to wait until this version is released on Oct. 11 to see if this policy is still followed or not.