Notebook Editing at DVinfo.net

Ron German · August 7th, 2010, 07:21 AM

I`ve though to have a notebook for fullHD editing option with Vegas 9.0e,
I`m not a computer techy, so I wonder if a 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive + 4GB RAM + 2.4GHz Intel Core i5-450M are enouph to edit the most comon 1980X1080 codecs, like h.264 (Canon`s HDSLR), AVCHD, Sony MXF (EX1/3), Neoscene, etc and render to a HDCAM file.
Thanks
Ron

Buba Kastorski · August 10th, 2010, 09:00 AM

Only if you NEED to edit on laptop, I would spend more on hard drive, because it is the slowest component in the system; 72000rpm wil perform noticable better, but SSD will give you the best performance;
not sure about DSLR footage converted with neoscene and AVCHD, I have major problems with 5/7D footage on i7 920, but sony MXF will be flying on that thing;
but I would still use desktop with tiny monitor even for SDEs

Edward Troxel · August 10th, 2010, 09:37 AM

I've edited on a laptop for YEARS. I did get one with two separate hard drives and use the second drive for video storage. Just don't skimp on the system.

Jeff Harper · August 10th, 2010, 10:50 AM

You should have at least 6GB Ram, and the most powerful processor, fastest hard drive you can get. If your doing professional editing don't skimp. All Solid State Hard Drives are not created equal, there are vast differences in quality, get the best you can afford for the smoothest editing experience possible. If there was a way to hook up an esata card to a laptop I would go that route, using a nice fast external drive with the appropriate connection.

Ron German · August 10th, 2010, 03:13 PM

Thank you for your responses
But I wonder if specifically this configuration (5400rpm SATA Hard Drive + 4GB RAM + 2.4GHz Intel Core i5-450M + Windows 7 + 64bits) could be used (woud be enouph) as a ready-for-edit (HD stuff) system on a laptop?
(My desktop is 32 bits 3GHz dual core 2 + 3 GB RAM + 7200 SATA HD + Windows Professional + Vegas 9.0e 32bits and I edit with no issues except h.264 files from Canon T2i, that I have to transcode to Neoscene).
Regards
Ron

Edward Troxel · August 11th, 2010, 06:46 AM

Short answer: yes it will work. I do agree that I'd go for 7200 rpm drives and I'd go for TWO or THREE drives. The laptop I'm using can have up to three internal drives (I only got two).

Don't expect to edit on battery for very long, though.

Ron German · August 11th, 2010, 08:57 AM

Thank you Edward.
Is there any problem to have the system (internal) 5400 rpm hard drive and the media to be edited in a external 7200 rpm hard drive?

Gerald Webb · August 11th, 2010, 05:26 PM

Hey Edward, what lappy have you got that can have 3 internal drives?
Im trying to find a replacement for Satellite which has 2 x 500gb.
All the new i7's Ive found with 6 gb of Ram or more only have 1 drive, ie Asus, Alienware even Mac pro.
id resigned myself to an SSD on board and a Sata out to a 600gb 10K Raptor in an enclosure.

Rob Wood · August 12th, 2010, 07:51 AM

"...what lappy have you got that can have 3 internal drives?"

Sager makes laptops with 3 drives and (up to) i7 940 CPU... most of their laptops are customizable.

Jeff Harper · August 12th, 2010, 08:33 AM

One look at the Sager website and I would look nowhere else for a video editing laptop...amazing configurability. Their machines appear to be of the highest quality. Good stuff, Rob.

Edward Troxel · August 12th, 2010, 10:26 AM

Mine's a Sager! :-)

Jeff Harper · August 12th, 2010, 01:51 PM

So THAT'S how you edit AVCHD on a laptop...you have a really good one!

Edward Troxel · August 12th, 2010, 03:03 PM

Mine is nearly three years old now so it's definitely not top of the line today. But it's worked fine for my editing needs. This one is a Core 2 Quat Q6700 2.66 GHz with 2 Gig of RAM. I'm sure the ones available today will be MUCH faster.

Rob Wood · August 12th, 2010, 08:33 PM

i use a NP9285 (i7-960) with 3 drives... used most for capturing audio via firewire; works great. haven't done much editing with it.

David Wayne Groves · August 15th, 2010, 08:03 PM

I use a Dell Studio 17 for my AVCHD editing, It performes great even with multicam projects...

Specs:
Dell Studio 17.3 1600x900 HD
i7core QM720 Quadcore
6Gig DDR3
1Gig ATI 4650 Video card
2-500Gig Hds 7200
8x DVD Burner (Portable LG Bluray Burner)
HDMI, ESata, Firewire, Card reader
Camcorders- Sony HDR-AX2000, Canon HG21, Canon HG10
Software- Vegas 9pro, Pinnacle 14.......

August 7th, 2010, 07:21 AM	#1
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Notebook Editing I`ve though to have a notebook for fullHD editing option with Vegas 9.0e, I`m not a computer techy, so I wonder if a 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive + 4GB RAM + 2.4GHz Intel Core i5-450M are enouph to edit the most comon 1980X1080 codecs, like h.264 (Canon`s HDSLR), AVCHD, Sony MXF (EX1/3), Neoscene, etc and render to a HDCAM file. Thanks Ron

August 10th, 2010, 09:00 AM	#2
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Only if you NEED to edit on laptop, I would spend more on hard drive, because it is the slowest component in the system; 72000rpm wil perform noticable better, but SSD will give you the best performance; not sure about DSLR footage converted with neoscene and AVCHD, I have major problems with 5/7D footage on i7 920, but sony MXF will be flying on that thing; but I would still use desktop with tiny monitor even for SDEs __________________ I love this place!

August 10th, 2010, 09:37 AM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I've edited on a laptop for YEARS. I did get one with two separate hard drives and use the second drive for video storage. Just don't skimp on the system. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 11th, 2010, 06:46 AM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Short answer: yes it will work. I do agree that I'd go for 7200 rpm drives and I'd go for TWO or THREE drives. The laptop I'm using can have up to three internal drives (I only got two). Don't expect to edit on battery for very long, though. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 11th, 2010, 05:26 PM	#8
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Hey Edward, what lappy have you got that can have 3 internal drives? Im trying to find a replacement for Satellite which has 2 x 500gb. All the new i7's Ive found with 6 gb of Ram or more only have 1 drive, ie Asus, Alienware even Mac pro. id resigned myself to an SSD on board and a Sata out to a 600gb 10K Raptor in an enclosure. __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo

August 10th, 2010, 10:50 AM	#4
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	You should have at least 6GB Ram, and the most powerful processor, fastest hard drive you can get. If your doing professional editing don't skimp. All Solid State Hard Drives are not created equal, there are vast differences in quality, get the best you can afford for the smoothest editing experience possible. If there was a way to hook up an esata card to a laptop I would go that route, using a nice fast external drive with the appropriate connection.

August 10th, 2010, 03:13 PM	#5
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Thank you for your responses But I wonder if specifically this configuration (5400rpm SATA Hard Drive + 4GB RAM + 2.4GHz Intel Core i5-450M + Windows 7 + 64bits) could be used (woud be enouph) as a ready-for-edit (HD stuff) system on a laptop? (My desktop is 32 bits 3GHz dual core 2 + 3 GB RAM + 7200 SATA HD + Windows Professional + Vegas 9.0e 32bits and I edit with no issues except h.264 files from Canon T2i, that I have to transcode to Neoscene). Regards Ron

August 11th, 2010, 08:57 AM	#7
Ron German Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brasil Posts: 304	Thank you Edward. Is there any problem to have the system (internal) 5400 rpm hard drive and the media to be edited in a external 7200 rpm hard drive?

August 12th, 2010, 07:51 AM	#9
Rob Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 146	"...what lappy have you got that can have 3 internal drives?" Sager makes laptops with 3 drives and (up to) i7 940 CPU... most of their laptops are customizable.

August 12th, 2010, 08:33 AM	#10
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	One look at the Sager website and I would look nowhere else for a video editing laptop...amazing configurability. Their machines appear to be of the highest quality. Good stuff, Rob.

August 12th, 2010, 10:26 AM	#11
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Mine's a Sager! :-) __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 12th, 2010, 01:51 PM	#12
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	So THAT'S how you edit AVCHD on a laptop...you have a really good one!

August 12th, 2010, 03:03 PM	#13
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Mine is nearly three years old now so it's definitely not top of the line today. But it's worked fine for my editing needs. This one is a Core 2 Quat Q6700 2.66 GHz with 2 Gig of RAM. I'm sure the ones available today will be MUCH faster. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 12th, 2010, 08:33 PM	#14
Rob Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 146	i use a NP9285 (i7-960) with 3 drives... used most for capturing audio via firewire; works great. haven't done much editing with it.

August 15th, 2010, 08:03 PM	#15
David Wayne Groves Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charleston WV Posts: 149	I use a Dell Studio 17 for my AVCHD editing, It performes great even with multicam projects... Specs: Dell Studio 17.3 1600x900 HD i7core QM720 Quadcore 6Gig DDR3 1Gig ATI 4650 Video card 2-500Gig Hds 7200 8x DVD Burner (Portable LG Bluray Burner) HDMI, ESata, Firewire, Card reader Camcorders- Sony HDR-AX2000, Canon HG21, Canon HG10 Software- Vegas 9pro, Pinnacle 14.......