newbie question..how do i get virtual dub to recognize shortened .veg clips in vegas at DVinfo.net

William Boehm · July 1st, 2010, 09:57 AM

i am cutting clips of avi files from cineform neoscene. how do i get virutal dub to recognize the .veg files..i have windows 7 64bit i7930, fairly good computer just purchased, downloaded 32 bit virutal dub and deshaker, have a trouble ticket into cineform, just frustrated. want to deshake clips. bill

Seth Bloombaum · July 1st, 2010, 10:35 AM

Virtualdub is not going to recognize .veg files. You'll need to render to AVI in Vegas, selecting the Cineform or other codec, then take the resulting file into Virtualdub.

Perhaps it would be helpful if you posted the workflow you're using, just a step-by-step outline of the process..

William Boehm · July 1st, 2010, 10:55 AM

my work flow...1.transfering hdv tapes on a canon xha1 and captured from the camera into the neoscene codec cf avi files on the computer (recognized as cfhd). virtual dub doesnt recognize them. 2. new canon hfs100 vixia avchd files captured by again cineform 4 neoscene onto the computer. again they are cdhd avi files i believe. installed virutal dub 32 bit onto my windows 7 I 7d930 machine, and virtual dub doesnt recognize either. shortened the clips in vegas 9 which i noticed when i saved as..went to a .veg file. thanks for your help, and the experience you bring to the forum. bill

Edward Troxel · July 1st, 2010, 12:24 PM

Here's the bottom line - VirtualDub will recognize VIDEO files for which you have the proper codec installed. If VirtualDub will not load the video file, the necessary codec is not available. If Vegas will load the files, you could then render them out to a video format that VirtualDub WILL read.

The next part is the VEG files. A VEG file is a Vegas PROJECT file. It is not a video file. Therefore VirtualDub will never load a VEG file as there's no video there to load.

William Boehm · July 1st, 2010, 02:00 PM

ed..what you stated has already been assumed in my question. i am trying to understand if anyone has had success loading cfhd files whether from hdv or avchd avi files into virtual dub. i have posted this in the cineform section...no answer; sent cineform a trouble ticket, along with a few files..no answer yet. thus i was hoping that .veg files might work....it hasnt for me but it supposedly did for another member.

Edward Troxel · July 1st, 2010, 02:32 PM

If Vegas can see the Cineform files, I'm really surprised that VirtualDub can't. One would think that with Neoscene installed that VirtualDub would read them fine.

William Boehm · July 1st, 2010, 04:43 PM

any other cineform and virtual plug users out there?

William Boehm · July 2nd, 2010, 10:58 AM

with a cineform avi file..here is the reading error when i open up the file.."COULDNT LOCATE DECOMPRESSOR FOR FORMAT 'CFHD' (UNKNOWN) . VirtualDub requires a Video for Windows (VFW) compatable decompress video. DirectShow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media Player, are not suitable." I am using deinerlaced 60 i when i shot with both the canon xha1 hdv, and the more recent avchd canon sfh100 converted to avi. Please help...bill

Mitja Popovski · July 2nd, 2010, 04:15 PM

i have no problems with virdub( 64 bit) recognizing cineform AVI, the problem must be someware in your codecs. You should probably reinstall cineform
bye

William Boehm · July 7th, 2010, 10:10 AM

thanks to all for help. i was instructed by cineform to reinstall neoscene 5.04, and it worked, now recognizing all my cfhd files.

July 1st, 2010, 09:57 AM	#1
William Boehm Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bothell, Washington Posts: 195	newbie question..how do i get virtual dub to recognize shortened .veg clips in vegas i am cutting clips of avi files from cineform neoscene. how do i get virutal dub to recognize the .veg files..i have windows 7 64bit i7930, fairly good computer just purchased, downloaded 32 bit virutal dub and deshaker, have a trouble ticket into cineform, just frustrated. want to deshake clips. bill

July 1st, 2010, 10:35 AM	#2
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Virtualdub is not going to recognize .veg files. You'll need to render to AVI in Vegas, selecting the Cineform or other codec, then take the resulting file into Virtualdub. Perhaps it would be helpful if you posted the workflow you're using, just a step-by-step outline of the process.. __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

July 1st, 2010, 12:24 PM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Here's the bottom line - VirtualDub will recognize VIDEO files for which you have the proper codec installed. If VirtualDub will not load the video file, the necessary codec is not available. If Vegas will load the files, you could then render them out to a video format that VirtualDub WILL read. The next part is the VEG files. A VEG file is a Vegas PROJECT file. It is not a video file. Therefore VirtualDub will never load a VEG file as there's no video there to load. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 1st, 2010, 02:32 PM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If Vegas can see the Cineform files, I'm really surprised that VirtualDub can't. One would think that with Neoscene installed that VirtualDub would read them fine. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 1st, 2010, 10:55 AM	#3
William Boehm Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bothell, Washington Posts: 195	my work flow...1.transfering hdv tapes on a canon xha1 and captured from the camera into the neoscene codec cf avi files on the computer (recognized as cfhd). virtual dub doesnt recognize them. 2. new canon hfs100 vixia avchd files captured by again cineform 4 neoscene onto the computer. again they are cdhd avi files i believe. installed virutal dub 32 bit onto my windows 7 I 7d930 machine, and virtual dub doesnt recognize either. shortened the clips in vegas 9 which i noticed when i saved as..went to a .veg file. thanks for your help, and the experience you bring to the forum. bill

July 1st, 2010, 02:00 PM	#5
William Boehm Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bothell, Washington Posts: 195	ed..what you stated has already been assumed in my question. i am trying to understand if anyone has had success loading cfhd files whether from hdv or avchd avi files into virtual dub. i have posted this in the cineform section...no answer; sent cineform a trouble ticket, along with a few files..no answer yet. thus i was hoping that .veg files might work....it hasnt for me but it supposedly did for another member.

July 1st, 2010, 04:43 PM	#7
William Boehm Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bothell, Washington Posts: 195	any other cineform and virtual plug users out there?

July 2nd, 2010, 10:58 AM	#8
William Boehm Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bothell, Washington Posts: 195	with a cineform avi file..here is the reading error when i open up the file.."COULDNT LOCATE DECOMPRESSOR FOR FORMAT 'CFHD' (UNKNOWN) . VirtualDub requires a Video for Windows (VFW) compatable decompress video. DirectShow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media Player, are not suitable." I am using deinerlaced 60 i when i shot with both the canon xha1 hdv, and the more recent avchd canon sfh100 converted to avi. Please help...bill

July 2nd, 2010, 04:15 PM	#9
Mitja Popovski Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38	i have no problems with virdub( 64 bit) recognizing cineform AVI, the problem must be someware in your codecs. You should probably reinstall cineform bye

July 7th, 2010, 10:10 AM	#10
William Boehm Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bothell, Washington Posts: 195	thanks to all for help. i was instructed by cineform to reinstall neoscene 5.04, and it worked, now recognizing all my cfhd files.