Vegas Pro 9.0d released

Mark Maskell · April 17th, 2010, 07:45 AM

Sony have wrote to me and admitted the BUG on the PRO TYPE TITLER. The presets do not let you use gradient fill and black text is black even when swiped over. With a title created by the titler in the timeline rendering is a problem.Get all the low memory errors even using seconds of footage. Everything works fine on 9b.
How Sony can let this mess of an upgrade go out is beyond me. What are the beta testers doing?
The Pro Type Titler is one thing we use a lot and even that is not tested properly

Richard Alvarez · April 17th, 2010, 07:47 AM

The Beta testers are posting their experiences to forums - just like this one.

Mark Maskell · April 17th, 2010, 07:59 AM

Hi Richard , but why release software even when the basics do not work correctly.

Graham Bernard · April 17th, 2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Maskell

Sony have wrote to me and admitted the BUG on the PRO TYPE TITLER.

Maybe 'cos BETA testers have pointed it out to SONY? Maybe that's it?

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Originally Posted by Mark Maskell

The Pro Type Titler is one thing we use a lot and even that is not tested properly

Sure. Maybe the problems aren't a fix that is going to be quick as you and I would wish? BETA testers must have great patience and forbearance?

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Originally Posted by Mark Maskell

What are the beta testers doing?

Bringing to the attention of SONY what they are finding. I would think that BETA testers aren't, necessarily, programmers? And as such wouldn't be privy to the Q&A work-flow and controls. It wouldn't be wise to have that as an option?

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Originally Posted by Mark Maskell

Hi Richard , but why release software even when the basics do not work correctly.

Ah, and now that is an excellent question, which maybe you should address directly at SONY. I should think that any BETA tester, of any s/w, would need to sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA). In which case that BETA tester would NOT be able to comment on any BETA development.

Grazie

Mark Maskell · April 17th, 2010, 10:54 AM

Hi Graham i have asked that question to Sony, I dont expect a reply.

Graham Bernard · April 17th, 2010, 11:20 AM

Keep asking. Then call . . then fly over and knock on their door! - You're gonna have to wait for Iceland to calm down though.

- g

Ken Olson · April 17th, 2010, 11:24 AM

I uninstalled D from my 64-bit Vegas and installed version C. Now veg file open as fast as they always have.

What is really interesting is that even version C projects opened, modified and save under version D, that opened slow in version D, now not only open, but open fast in version C.

Jim Snow · April 17th, 2010, 11:30 AM

Maybe Sony felt pushed to announce something at NAB to at least somewhat respond to Adobe's CS5. If that's the case, they may have released it prematurely.

Michael Ojjeh · April 17th, 2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Guthormsen

I restored my computer and will wait a while and stay with 8.0c which I feel has been the soundest to date. Spent months with 9.0b and it was pretty good, but on longer projects (1.5 to 2 hour hd) it started the red frame issue for me!!!!

Dale Guthormsen

Dale, I have the same problem with big project, Vegas9 cannot handle large files it is only good for small project, I had a 20 minute project that I tried on Vegas9d and it worked fine using m2t files, I even loved the improvement of the window preview, but when I used large project it could not handle it at all, it froze up by clicking on anything on the timeline,

Jim Snow · April 17th, 2010, 03:47 PM

Michael, Out of curiosity, what is you hard disc configuration? By any chance are you using an external hard disc? I'm just wondering if Vegas is losing association with the hard disc that has your project files. Also, does your hard disc have a sleep mode? I'm reaching trying to find an explanation. It's clear that you're having a problem with 9.0d but what isn't clear is what sort of system configuration variable is the cause of the problem.

Michael Ojjeh · April 17th, 2010, 04:18 PM

Jim, I have three internal hard drives (all Maxtor ATA Devices) the project that I'm working on sit on one drive by itself and the drive is not set up to go to sleep at all, I have no problem with Vegas8 running the same project.

I have a Quad 9650 3.00GHz 32-bit system on Vista with 3gb Ram.

Jim Snow · April 17th, 2010, 04:29 PM

Michael, I will really be interested to hear what Sony does to fix this. I'm running Vista 64-bit on a Quad 9450 with 8GB of ram. No matter what I try, I can't create a problem. I'm also wondering if there is some sort of conflict with other installed software or maybe even hardware. You have clearly defined the problem that you are seeing so it's obvious that you aren't having a problem with an overactive imagination. I hope Sony explains for all to hear what the problem turns out to be.

Michael Ojjeh · April 17th, 2010, 04:39 PM

Jim, when you say you are trying to create the same problem are you using big project ? 3--to--18hours of m2t files.
For me the main problem is the big project, Vegas8 can handle it but Vegas9 can't, and you think it should be the other way around you should go forward not backward :).
I am going to try calling Sony on Monday to see if they have any solution.

Bruce Phung · April 17th, 2010, 05:31 PM

After reading other having issue with 9.0C .Veg file open slow and other says 9.0d open the same speed or faster. Today I decided to try it any way. Its works fine for me, no problem what so ever. I've opened 4 projects .veg file from 9.0c and it seems to open very fast on my i7 920 PC. All good for me.

Jim Snow · April 17th, 2010, 06:08 PM

Michael, The longest project that I tried is about 2 hours and 36 minutes. It has three tracks each with three .m2t files on each track. It also has two tracks with AVC H.264 files in .mov wrappers. There are also two additional .wav audio tracks from two recorders. The tracks were synchronized with PluralEyes. Some of the clips have Magic Bullet Looks applied. Most all of the clips have other filters applied including New Blue effects.

I will put together a test project tomorrow that exceeds three hours to see what I observe. On your project that is over three hours, is everything on one track? Did you put it together in 8.0 and open it on 9.0d? I would like to match my test as closely as possible to your project setup.

I will post my observations after I try it.

April 17th, 2010, 07:45 AM	#46
Mark Maskell New Boot Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: England Posts: 9	9D bugs sony responce Sony have wrote to me and admitted the BUG on the PRO TYPE TITLER. The presets do not let you use gradient fill and black text is black even when swiped over. With a title created by the titler in the timeline rendering is a problem.Get all the low memory errors even using seconds of footage. Everything works fine on 9b. How Sony can let this mess of an upgrade go out is beyond me. What are the beta testers doing? The Pro Type Titler is one thing we use a lot and even that is not tested properly

April 17th, 2010, 07:59 AM	#48
Mark Maskell New Boot Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: England Posts: 9	9d bugs Hi Richard , but why release software even when the basics do not work correctly.

April 17th, 2010, 11:24 AM	#52
Ken Olson Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 92	I uninstalled D from my 64-bit Vegas and installed version C. Now veg file open as fast as they always have. What is really interesting is that even version C projects opened, modified and save under version D, that opened slow in version D, now not only open, but open fast in version C. __________________ www.YouTube.com/keningilbert www.CaptainKen.us

April 17th, 2010, 04:18 PM	#56
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	Jim, I have three internal hard drives (all Maxtor ATA Devices) the project that I'm working on sit on one drive by itself and the drive is not set up to go to sleep at all, I have no problem with Vegas8 running the same project. I have a Quad 9650 3.00GHz 32-bit system on Vista with 3gb Ram. __________________ Dragonfly Production http://www.dragonflyproduction.net/ http://www.vimeo.com/user432181

April 17th, 2010, 04:39 PM	#58
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	Jim, when you say you are trying to create the same problem are you using big project ? 3--to--18hours of m2t files. For me the main problem is the big project, Vegas8 can handle it but Vegas9 can't, and you think it should be the other way around you should go forward not backward :). I am going to try calling Sony on Monday to see if they have any solution. __________________ Dragonfly Production http://www.dragonflyproduction.net/ http://www.vimeo.com/user432181

April 17th, 2010, 07:47 AM	#47
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	The Beta testers are posting their experiences to forums - just like this one.

April 17th, 2010, 10:54 AM	#50
Mark Maskell New Boot Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: England Posts: 9	Hi Graham i have asked that question to Sony, I dont expect a reply.

April 17th, 2010, 11:20 AM	#51
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Keep asking. Then call . . then fly over and knock on their door! - You're gonna have to wait for Iceland to calm down though. - g

April 17th, 2010, 11:30 AM	#53
Jim Snow Trustee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,104	Maybe Sony felt pushed to announce something at NAB to at least somewhat respond to Adobe's CS5. If that's the case, they may have released it prematurely.

April 17th, 2010, 03:47 PM	#55
Jim Snow Trustee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,104	Michael, Out of curiosity, what is you hard disc configuration? By any chance are you using an external hard disc? I'm just wondering if Vegas is losing association with the hard disc that has your project files. Also, does your hard disc have a sleep mode? I'm reaching trying to find an explanation. It's clear that you're having a problem with 9.0d but what isn't clear is what sort of system configuration variable is the cause of the problem.

April 17th, 2010, 04:29 PM	#57
Jim Snow Trustee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,104	Michael, I will really be interested to hear what Sony does to fix this. I'm running Vista 64-bit on a Quad 9450 with 8GB of ram. No matter what I try, I can't create a problem. I'm also wondering if there is some sort of conflict with other installed software or maybe even hardware. You have clearly defined the problem that you are seeing so it's obvious that you aren't having a problem with an overactive imagination. I hope Sony explains for all to hear what the problem turns out to be.

April 17th, 2010, 05:31 PM	#59
Bruce Phung Major Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester,NY USA Posts: 285	After reading other having issue with 9.0C .Veg file open slow and other says 9.0d open the same speed or faster. Today I decided to try it any way. Its works fine for me, no problem what so ever. I've opened 4 projects .veg file from 9.0c and it seems to open very fast on my i7 920 PC. All good for me.

April 17th, 2010, 06:08 PM	#60
Jim Snow Trustee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,104	Michael, The longest project that I tried is about 2 hours and 36 minutes. It has three tracks each with three .m2t files on each track. It also has two tracks with AVC H.264 files in .mov wrappers. There are also two additional .wav audio tracks from two recorders. The tracks were synchronized with PluralEyes. Some of the clips have Magic Bullet Looks applied. Most all of the clips have other filters applied including New Blue effects. I will put together a test project tomorrow that exceeds three hours to see what I observe. On your project that is over three hours, is everything on one track? Did you put it together in 8.0 and open it on 9.0d? I would like to match my test as closely as possible to your project setup. I will post my observations after I try it.