Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q1Q2)

Chris Barcellos · February 23rd, 2006, 05:07 PM

I think the trend will be to native HDV editing. Premiere Pro 2.0 has it, and despite what some are postulating, in actual use I find it working pretty decently. Pinnacle Studio 10 Plus ( a consumer editor) is also going native HDV. It has some bugs still, but has the promise of fast rendering, because it only actually rerenders edited area of a clip. You would think Sony, a dedicated champion of HDV, would be working that way with Vegas--- they do own that outfit, right ?

It is a dilemna. I upgraded to from Premiere 6.5 to Pro 1.51, only to have Pro 2.0 come out a month later. Ended up paying $200 for each upgrade.

Chris Barcellos · February 23rd, 2006, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

I think the trend will be to native HDV editing. Premiere Pro 2.0 has it, and despite what some are postulating, in actual use I find it working pretty decently. Pinnacle Studio 10 Plus ( a consumer editor) is also going native HDV. It has some bugs still, but has the promise of fast rendering, because it only actually rerenders edited area of a clip. You would think Sony, a dedicated champion of HDV, would be working that way with Vegas--- they do own that outfit, right ?

It is a dilemna. I upgraded to from Premiere 6.5 to Pro 1.51, only to have Pro 2.0 come out a month later. Ended up paying $200 for each upgrade.

Follow up: I know Vegas does .m2t native edits, but I have heard a lot of complaints.

Vincent Croce · February 23rd, 2006, 06:29 PM

Neil- No matter what I set the preview window to, the preview in either external monitor will only improve when I enlarge the preview window in Vegas itself. I thought this might be a normal thing--does it happen to you?

Don Bloom · February 23rd, 2006, 09:14 PM

for whatever reason the larger the preview screen the more it stutters even in "preview" quality-so for rough editing I leave the screen small and on "preview auto" then for finish edit and color work I use an external monitor and it seems to work better but for really fine stuff, I'll render a small clip to AVI and run it thru the external monitor just to double check it.
Don

Edward Troxel · February 23rd, 2006, 09:35 PM

The latest version update info indicates it's now compatible with Vegas 6.

Steven Davis · February 23rd, 2006, 10:20 PM

Thanks Ed

I will check the new version out

Carl Downs · February 23rd, 2006, 11:51 PM

1. I have been creating simple Flash animations for my video presentations at 720x480 pixels (output from flash at everything max) but after rendereing (at best) the animations become somewhat blocky and jittery (I edit the original pics in photoshop or Real Draw, export them as transparent ...? oops forgot the name..., then move them around in Flash). Is this blockyness/flickering normal? Can I possibly get a clean and nice animation? (maybe doubling the size of the original flash animation?)

2. And... exactly what size pixel screen size should I use for stills and animation programs to import into vegas?

3. Does anyone have a recommendation for an animation and or 3d animator for a resonable price the works well with Vegas. I am not looking to get heavily into it but it is nice to throw in some simple, fun and cool little animations here and there.

Thanks

Dionyssios Chalkias · February 24th, 2006, 03:43 AM

Have you tried this (from Vegas help):

Reduce interlace flicker
(video only)
This switch can be useful in cases where the source material didn't originate as video and contains extremely high spatial or temporal frequencies.

When you watch the rendered (interlaced) output on video of this sort of media, you may see flickering or crawling edges if this switch is not applied

Enable this switch when using imported images that were not created using a video camera (such as photographs) or when using generated media or text.

Darrin McMillan · February 24th, 2006, 06:33 AM

Is their anyway to burn onto a dual Layer disc using Sony Dvd Architect?

Edward Troxel · February 24th, 2006, 08:58 AM

Dual layer support was added in DVDA 3. You might be able to prepare a larger size disc in DVDA 2 and then use Nero to burn it. Not sure how the layer splitting will work in that case, though.

Vincent Croce · February 24th, 2006, 10:07 AM

Don-Thanks for the response. It's not really a problem with choppiness, it's the resolution. Should've made that clear. When I switch to Best-Full preview setting it clears up just fine (thanks, Ed). It was having it in Auto mode that was giving me the problem, although I like your editing solution to this also.
Vin

Barry Rivadue · February 24th, 2006, 02:09 PM

NOTE: I deleted my initial post because I've since been running various tests to correct certain problems. Some things I've cleared up, other things I haven't. I posted in panic mode earlier and just babbled; if certain problems persist I'll update later in a hopefully coherent manner.

Thank you. :D

Steve Madsen · February 24th, 2006, 06:14 PM

Hi all,

I'm doing some track motion and cropping in Vegas, and I can't figure out why my rendered file doesn't match the preview in vegas. I don't want the 5 shots overlapping. I'm sure it's simple, but it's got me stumped. Any thoughts?

http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php...50_Preview.jpg

http://img128.imagevenue.com/img.php...956_Output.JPG

Thanks,

Steve

Steve Madsen · February 24th, 2006, 06:25 PM

Ahem, please ignore this waste of pixel. I changed my project properties to widescreen, and hey presto...

Barry Rivadue · February 24th, 2006, 08:37 PM

Why does this happen:

My DVD Arch 2.0 program stops responding when I click on "Make DVD."; even after reinstallation. I get this error message: SzM Modname: hungapp. Is that enough to figure it out?

I have two other DVD apps on the hard drive (one is Sony); I also have a Sony external burner.

This is exasperating. Any insight welcomed!

February 23rd, 2006, 05:07 PM	#541
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Vegas Prediction I think the trend will be to native HDV editing. Premiere Pro 2.0 has it, and despite what some are postulating, in actual use I find it working pretty decently. Pinnacle Studio 10 Plus ( a consumer editor) is also going native HDV. It has some bugs still, but has the promise of fast rendering, because it only actually rerenders edited area of a clip. You would think Sony, a dedicated champion of HDV, would be working that way with Vegas--- they do own that outfit, right ? It is a dilemna. I upgraded to from Premiere 6.5 to Pro 1.51, only to have Pro 2.0 come out a month later. Ended up paying $200 for each upgrade. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

February 23rd, 2006, 09:35 PM	#545
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The latest version update info indicates it's now compatible with Vegas 6. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 23rd, 2006, 10:20 PM	#546
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Thanks Ed I will check the new version out __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

February 23rd, 2006, 11:51 PM	#547
Carl Downs Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 101	Animation, 3D Animation, and still pixel size? 1. I have been creating simple Flash animations for my video presentations at 720x480 pixels (output from flash at everything max) but after rendereing (at best) the animations become somewhat blocky and jittery (I edit the original pics in photoshop or Real Draw, export them as transparent ...? oops forgot the name..., then move them around in Flash). Is this blockyness/flickering normal? Can I possibly get a clean and nice animation? (maybe doubling the size of the original flash animation?) 2. And... exactly what size pixel screen size should I use for stills and animation programs to import into vegas? 3. Does anyone have a recommendation for an animation and or 3d animator for a resonable price the works well with Vegas. I am not looking to get heavily into it but it is nice to throw in some simple, fun and cool little animations here and there. Thanks

February 24th, 2006, 06:33 AM	#549
Darrin McMillan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 96	Dual Layer in Sony DVD Architect 2.0 Is their anyway to burn onto a dual Layer disc using Sony Dvd Architect?

February 23rd, 2006, 06:29 PM	#543
Vincent Croce Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 263	Neil- No matter what I set the preview window to, the preview in either external monitor will only improve when I enlarge the preview window in Vegas itself. I thought this might be a normal thing--does it happen to you?

February 23rd, 2006, 09:14 PM	#544
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	for whatever reason the larger the preview screen the more it stutters even in "preview" quality-so for rough editing I leave the screen small and on "preview auto" then for finish edit and color work I use an external monitor and it seems to work better but for really fine stuff, I'll render a small clip to AVI and run it thru the external monitor just to double check it. Don

February 24th, 2006, 03:43 AM	#548
Dionyssios Chalkias Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 64	Have you tried this (from Vegas help): Reduce interlace flicker (video only) This switch can be useful in cases where the source material didn't originate as video and contains extremely high spatial or temporal frequencies. When you watch the rendered (interlaced) output on video of this sort of media, you may see flickering or crawling edges if this switch is not applied Enable this switch when using imported images that were not created using a video camera (such as photographs) or when using generated media or text.

February 24th, 2006, 08:58 AM	#550
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Dual layer support was added in DVDA 3. You might be able to prepare a larger size disc in DVDA 2 and then use Nero to burn it. Not sure how the layer splitting will work in that case, though. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 24th, 2006, 10:07 AM	#551
Vincent Croce Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 263	Don-Thanks for the response. It's not really a problem with choppiness, it's the resolution. Should've made that clear. When I switch to Best-Full preview setting it clears up just fine (thanks, Ed). It was having it in Auto mode that was giving me the problem, although I like your editing solution to this also. Vin

February 24th, 2006, 02:09 PM	#552
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	DVD Architecture: Crazy, Part 2 NOTE: I deleted my initial post because I've since been running various tests to correct certain problems. Some things I've cleared up, other things I haven't. I posted in panic mode earlier and just babbled; if certain problems persist I'll update later in a hopefully coherent manner. Thank you. :D Last edited by Barry Rivadue; February 24th, 2006 at 07:10 PM.

February 24th, 2006, 06:14 PM	#553
Steve Madsen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 111	Output file doesn't match preview Hi all, I'm doing some track motion and cropping in Vegas, and I can't figure out why my rendered file doesn't match the preview in vegas. I don't want the 5 shots overlapping. I'm sure it's simple, but it's got me stumped. Any thoughts? http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php...50_Preview.jpg http://img128.imagevenue.com/img.php...956_Output.JPG Thanks, Steve

February 24th, 2006, 06:25 PM	#554
Steve Madsen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 111	Ahem, please ignore this waste of pixel. I changed my project properties to widescreen, and hey presto...

February 24th, 2006, 08:37 PM	#555
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	Why does this happen: My DVD Arch 2.0 program stops responding when I click on "Make DVD."; even after reinstallation. I get this error message: SzM Modname: hungapp. Is that enough to figure it out? I have two other DVD apps on the hard drive (one is Sony); I also have a Sony external burner. This is exasperating. Any insight welcomed!